PS3 Discussion

[Lynx]

And please don't get into the "But it is a console not a player lololololo" argument because I think I'm gonna have a stroke if I have to see it one more time.

Then don't bring it up. It should NEVER have had Blu-Ray if it was going to bring the cost of the console up that much. It was a Trojan Horse tactic and while it may have made good business sense, it backfired.

Because one PS3 bought earlier is a Xbox360 bought later or not at all. They have to spread their "area" (sorry for not having a better term, I'm really tired and I have some problems to right in english when I'm like that). They can't wait that much to lower the prices, I think, and I'm really guessing here, that they wanted to drop prices earlier so that they could compete better, but they simply can't, in the other hand, they can't let things go as they are. It's kinda desperate, but it is one of the best things they could have done, lose a little more money NOW and hope to get more later.

Not necessarily. What about people like me, who already bought a 360? I'm sure they want my business too. The fence sitters are getting smaller and smaller, so why target that demographic? As with them "waiting" to lower prices. . .It's not permanent! It's gone as soon as they're out of stock! If they wanted to compete, this should have been a permanent drop so even more people would buy this. Why would they lower it now, in the "dead" shopping season? Wouldn't they want to lower it during the holidays? Where they'd sell far more?

Hell, Konami and Square-Enix, two of Sony's biggest supporters, came out and said the $100 dollar price drop wasn't nearly enough. I can imagine how pissed they are now that they know this price drop won't even be around when their respective killer apps are released.

 

[SSJmole]

Then don't bring it up. It should NEVER have had Blu-Ray if it was going to bring the cost of the console up that much. It was a Trojan Horse tactic and while it may have made good business sense, it backfired..

Another thing we agree on!

 

[Ultimate Quicksilver]

But yes it's a console and blueray and I thought "that's worth it" at first. Now i realise it is not. If you look for ps3 in a shop is it under games consoles or dvd/hd-dvd/blue ray players? if you want it under consoles it should have a console price.

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I told you I'm not getting into this argument. I will just say what I always say. If it has an extra and you like it, why not pay the extra?

Look, we are going through a very slow change to HD. TV channels are adapting to it now, we need a physical media able to hold those things in HD format. Right now there is no need for that, it's not everyone that has a HDTV or WANTS High definition, but I would say that in some short time, more people will want it. Sony tried to thought ahead, maybe too much and now it's paying not only for that but for the difficulty to program in the PS3. I think it's worth it's price, looking all the contents I'm pretty satisfied with what I paid and what I got. Perhaps someone that doesn't have a HDTV couldn't enjoy the same or whatever, I'm already ****ing tired of discussing this bull****. I wanted to talk about games in this thread, like everyone do in the other ones, but apparently it's impossible.

Then don't bring it up. It should NEVER have had Blu-Ray if it was going to bring the cost of the console up that much. It was a Trojan Horse tactic and while it may have made good business sense, it backfired.



Not necessarily. What about people like me, who already bought a 360? I'm sure they want my business too. The fence sitters are getting smaller and smaller, so why target that demographic? As with them "waiting" to lower prices. . .It's not permanent! It's gone as soon as they're out of stock! If they wanted to compete, this should have been a permanent drop so even more people would buy this. Why would they lower it now, in the "dead" shopping season? Wouldn't they want to lower it during the holidays? Where they'd sell far more?

Hell, Konami and Square-Enix, two of Sony's biggest supporters, came out and said the $100 dollar price drop wasn't nearly enough. I can imagine how pissed they are now that they know this price drop won't even be around when their respective killer apps are released.

Well I disagree, I think it's fine with the Blu Ray, it gives extra features that may do other people to buy it.

You can't do a marketing move for everyone, it's impossible. You choose a target and you stick with it, then you expand it.

Everyone already said that.

 

[SSJmole]

Re: PS3 Discussion. Come, join the laughs.

Look, we are going through a very slow change to HD. TV channels are adapting to it now, we need a physical media able to hold those things in HD format. Right now there is no need for that, it's not everyone that has a HDTV or WANTS High definition, but I would say that in some short time, more people will want it. Sony tried to thought ahead, maybe too much and now it's paying not only for that but for the difficulty to program in the PS3. I think it's worth it's price, looking all the contents I'm pretty satisfied with what I paid and what I got. Perhaps someone that doesn't have a HDTV couldn't enjoy the same or whatever, I'm already ****ing tired of discussing this bull****. I wanted to talk about games in this thread, like everyone do in the other ones, but apparently it's impossible.

I have a HDTV , I would just rather it be a separate player like i said instead of trying to force you to buy a blueray to win the format war. which is all it is a cheap ploy to sell blueray movies.



but what ever dude.

 

[Lynx]

Well I disagree, I think it's fine with the Blu Ray, it gives extra features that may do other people to buy it.

You can't do a marketing move for everyone, it's impossible. You choose a target and you stick with it, then you expand it.

Everyone already said that.

A Blu-Ray disc only has one advantage over a DVD9. It has more space. That's it.

As for making a marketing move for everyone. . .they chose their target, but they aren't sticking with it or expanding it. The "price drop" is a limited time offer.

I wanted to talk about games in this thread, like everyone do in the other ones, but apparently it's impossible.

Well. . .the good games have their own thread. This is a general PS3 thread. Plus, it really says something about the console when people are complaining about its lack of games and its price rather than talking about how satisfied they are with it. You'll see a more positive spin on it when it hits that $399 price point. Don't expect it sooner.

 

[moonmaster]

Re: PS3 Discussion. Come, join the laughs.

Since they can't have a good console with many great games right now, they can at least have a good console that is cheaper and have great promises...It's really not that complex.

Using the word "cheap" in reference to the PS3 just made my head explode.

 

[SSJmole]

Re: PS3 Discussion. Come, join the laughs.

Using the word "cheap" in reference to the PS3 just made my head explode.

:lol: :lol:

 

[Jaggyd]

If you don't like the price, or format...don't buy it.


I'd like to see this thread become less about pissing and moaning about how much people hate it, to discussing it by owners of the console. Maybe I should go to the 360 thread and piss and moan that I have to spend $200 more for HD-DVD playback, or how there are no good games that's aren't friggen shooters.

Christ...if you don't like it, vote with your wallet and quit whining.


Oh and if I'm reprimanded for this, fine, I'll accept it, I'm just tired of coming in here, HOPING to see some meaningful conversations and getting nothing about price/format whining.

 

[SSJmole]

piss and moan that I have to spend $200 more for HD-DVD playback

But that is just it you don't HAVE to buy it with ps3 they force you.

or how there are no good games that's aren't friggen shooters.

There is loads of cool 360 game that are NOT shooters.








but your getting upset I'll respect that and stop. Sorry.

 

[Lynx]

If you don't like the price, or format...don't buy it.

Well, seeing as I do want it, but think the price is ridiculous, I voice my opinion everywhere I can.

I'd like to see this thread become less about pissing and moaning about how much people hate it, to discussing it by owners of the console. Maybe I should go to the 360 thread and piss and moan that I have to spend $200 more for HD-DVD playback, or how there are no good games that's aren't friggen shooters.

So, if you don't own it, I can't talk about it? Sorry, but no. And you have every right to piss and moan in the 360 thread, but expect me to be there to show that there are games that aren't "friggen shooters", like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect. And that's just the exclusives. As for paying an extra $200 dollars for the HD-DVD. . .then, it would cost as much as the PS3. At least Microsoft gave me the option.

Oh and if I'm reprimanded for this, fine, I'll accept it, I'm just tired of coming in here, HOPING to see some meaningful conversations and getting nothing about price/format whining.

Meaningful conversations? You mean, talking about how Sony just did a bait-and-switch on the PS3 price drop isn't a meanigful conversation? It's a general PS3 thread. You talk about not liking us pissing and moaning, and yet, that's exactly what you're doing. If you want to talk about a specific game, either ignore us and talk about it here, or make a thread about it. Or did you just want this thread to be about lavishing praise on the all-powerful PS3?

 

[SSJmole]

Lynx mate lets drop it , As it's starting piss people off. If you want to continue the Anti-ps3 talk I suggest starting a thread. Then they get this one and are happy and people who don't like it can discuss it and are happy.

 

[Lynx]

Lynx mate lets drop it , As it's starting piss people off. If you want to continue the Anti-ps3 talk I suggest starting a thread. Then they get this one and are happy and people who don't like it can discuss it and are happy.

What, make a "PS3 is too ****ing expensive" thread? I'd be happy to, but I'll leave that to the mods. I haven't made one since I figured they'd want to keep all PS3 talk in one thread.

 

[SSJmole]

What, make a "PS3 is too ****ing expensive" thread? I'd be happy to, but I'll leave that to the mods. I haven't made one since I figured they'd want to keep all PS3 talk in one thread.

I think they'll under satand and just call it "Anti-ps3".

 

[ProjectX2]

Okay, I'm stepping in again. We know the PS3 is expensive. We've always known this. We know Sony might not be doing the right thing, but it doesn't matter now. You know what you like. Nobody is going to change that. So let's all just shut up about consoles and prices and business plans, and talk about things that matter.

 

[E]

Pissing about the PS3 pricing or whatever is not off-topic.

Praising other consoles is. Comparing consoles with the PS3 can be if not done carefully.

Stop being sensitive, people. We've already changed the thread title for no reason whatsoever other than people being touchy.



If you want to be technical about it, this WAS a PS3 mocking/pissing thread when it started. So quit whining.

 

[Ultimate Quicksilver]

Pissing about the PS3 pricing or whatever is not off-topic.

Praising other consoles is. Comparing consoles with the PS3 can be if not done carefully.

Stop being sensitive, people. We've already changed the thread title for no reason whatsoever other than people being touchy.



If you want to be technical about it, this WAS a PS3 mocking/pissing thread when it started. So quit whining.

Ok so can I make a new PS3 thread? Seeing that this is a pissing thread I'll make a discussion one.

 

[Jaggyd]

Pissing about the PS3 pricing or whatever is not off-topic.

Praising other consoles is. Comparing consoles with the PS3 can be if not done carefully.

Stop being sensitive, people. We've already changed the thread title for no reason whatsoever other than people being touchy.



If you want to be technical about it, this WAS a PS3 mocking/pissing thread when it started. So quit whining.

Fine, whatever.

 

[E]

Ok so can I make a new PS3 thread? Seeing that this is a pissing thread I'll make a discussion one.

Not needed. Carry on like normal. If someone says something you don't like, ignore them. If people post and no one answers they will stop posting.

Guys, if a thread on a subject isn't allowed to have room for debate and whatnot, what is the point of having a thread?

 

[Lynx]

Thanks, E.

UQ, skotti, you both were missing my point. I want to buy the PS3. I think, next year, we'll start seeing some good games for it. While I said I didn't think the $100 dollar price drop was enough, it was a good first step. What I was pissed about was them discontinuing the 60GB model (Which has the Emotion Engine) and using the $100 dollar price drop as nothing more than a clearance sale. That means I have to wait for TWO more price drops, and that's if I want a console with barely supported software emulation over the very reliable backwards compatibility of the Emotion chip.

Rumor is that once Sony runs out of the 60GB model, they'll lower the price on the 80GB version by taking out Motostorm and replacing the current SIXAXIS with a rumble-enabled SIXAXIS. If that's the case, then I can't complain about them not dropping the price. The only thing that leaves me upset is them using software emulation on the new models. SO, I have choice. Either I try to find a good deal for a 60GB PS3 on eBay and replace the rumbleless controller later OR I wait for a significant price drop on the 80GB version and just keep my PS2 hooked up.

I'm leaning towards the eBay option.

 

[JonnyFreeze]

Stop being sensitive, people. We've already changed the thread title for no reason whatsoever other than people being touchy.

i loved the old title :lol: