Ultimates 3 #1-5 discussion [Loeb/Madureira] [spoilers]

Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

So anyone read todays issue?
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

You do know that Loeb is doing Ultimates 4 right? With Ed McGuiness? It was announced before U3 even started.

But McGuiness isn't doing it anymore, and who knows if it'll even happen after Ultimatum.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

You do know that Loeb is doing Ultimates 4 right? With Ed McGuiness? It was announced before U3 even started.

But McGuiness isn't doing it anymore, and who knows if it'll even happen after Ultimatum.

Really? When was it said that Ed was out?

A long time ago.

Joe's right. McGuiness backed out awhile ago. And as Joe said, with Ultimatum happening, an Ultimates 4 is questionable.

I'm surprised at you Ice. You're like an encyclopedia of comic knowledge. This is like discovering a mistake in the Britannica.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Joe's right. McGuiness backed out awhile ago. And as Joe said, with Ultimatum happening, an Ultimates 4 is questionable.
Um. I never said Joe was wrong... :?


Besides, Ultimatum or not, Ultimates 4 will happen one way or another. Hello, this is Jeph Loeb. He's already catching up to Bendis in the number of books to he's writing himself.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Um. I never said Joe was wrong... :?

I know that, wasn't accusing you of such. Was just backing up Joe's info for you.

Besides, Ultimatum or not, Ultimates 4 will happen one way or another. Hello, this is Jeph Loeb. He's already catching up to Bendis in the number of books to he's writing himself.

I don't doubt that, I merely doubt whether it'll be titled Ultimates 4 or a complete reboot (name and universe-wise). We'll see.


Just finished. It was bad. REAL bad.

Summary? Even a quick one.

Oh, but focus on the worst parts of the book.

:evil:
 
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Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Summary? Even a quick one.

Basicly it's like Secret Invasion but with robots. No one knows who's a robot.

While the rest of the team is away. The Wasp get's attacted buy a robot Iron Man, robot Captain America and is saved by Hank as Ant-Man.

In the Savage Land everyone gets beat-up. Pyro is now part of the Brotherhood, and at the end we see a robot Yellowjacket, a robot Hulk, a robot Captain America, a robot Iron Man, and a robot Thor. Oh and big suprise, they want to take over the world.


And there's your quick summary...
 
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Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Willverine can write All-Star The ******* Daredevil.

Is this going to be on the MAX imprint? Otherwise my script isn't going to work. Also, I'd like to be able to write The ******* Squadron Supreme. Make that happen and your plan wins the day.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Enjoy.....

Starts with a flashback of Xavier and Magneto (with young Pietro and Wanda in tow) flying around looking for a safe place for mutants and they are going to Australia when *BOOM* plane crashes, right into the Savage land. (what luck!) Flash back to present and Thor, Valk, Ka-Zar and Shanna and savage land people are preparing to fight the brotherhood. It is here that is revealed that Thor has a whole collection of weapons given to him by Odin and that is where he got his 616 hammer from. The previous Ult hammer appears to be present in the gallery of weapons. Apparently he just rolls with all of 'em cuz they all seem to be packed on the ult quinjet. Meanwhile back at Tony Starks place, Jan is getting attacked by robot 616 Iron Man when Captain America busts in a saves her. As they are running away Cap starts buzzing and wheezing as it turns out he is also a robot, Ant Man (Hank) appears and destroys the Cap robot and informs Jan of a conspiracy. (lame) Cut to Hawkeye in the savage land sniping Multiple Man dupes when he is attacked and gutted by Sabretooth. Ka-zar and Shanna appear in the nick of time to have their tigers drive off Sabretooth. Hawkeye begs Ka-zar to leave him to die and go keep fighting. Meanwhile Wolverine and BP are cruisng through the woods when they get ambushed by Juggernaut. The scene ends with BP about to be crushed by Juggs and all you can see is one tattered WHITE hand reaching up from the ground. (so it appears Loeb went and made BLACK panther...a white guy). Valk is flying her horse around when she is taken down by Pyro (who I believe last appeared on the last page of UXM #93 standing in Xaviers living room with the rest of the X-men. But apparently somewhere along the line he went back to being evil) and Master Mind. Anywho..Thor gets taken out by Magneto. Cut back to Tony's and Hank and Jan are spying what can only be Ult Ultron as he makes Robot copies of all the Ultimates. Issue ends.

If that sounds disjointed and retarded....that is exactly how it is. Apparently the retcon will be that the Ultimates have been robots or something stupid like that.

So Loeb must have gotten the idea that it would be cool to unknowingly replace the Ultimates with....robots. A "who can you trust" kind of thing.

How does he come up with this stuff? :evil::evil:
 
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Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

I'm so glad I didn't continue to read this after #1...

I blame me reading it after #1 on the timeline...and admittedly, a strange fascination in seeing just how ****ing bad he can write the Ultimates. It really is like watching a sweet muscle car you spent countless hours and money working on destroyed in a horrible car accident...and you just can't look away. Strange, incredibly strange.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

I blame me reading it after #1 on the timeline...and admittedly, a strange fascination in seeing just how ****ing bad he can write the Ultimates. It really is like watching a sweet muscle car you spent countless hours and money working on destroyed in a horrible car accident...and you just can't look away. Strange, incredibly strange.


It's mainly the shock that keeps you watchin. The '' i can't believe this is happening'' feeling.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

ARGH!!!!!!!!!

This was so ****ing horrible!!!!!

Loeb's WTF moment of the issue
Pyro is now a brotherhood member out of nowhere

Jesus.... Maybe American Jan is an Ultron too and Loeb's Ultimates are too ****ing stupid to tell the difference... I think the only thing good about this was the cameo of Jugg's and that's not saying much. This series has become such crap.

Loeb, to me, is now the official George Bush of comics. Get rid of him,Marvel!!!!!
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Yeah, I just read it. Yeah.

I really ****ing hope Marvel is smart enough to not allow Loeb to write Ultimates 4. Seriously. Robots!

Jesus, Cylons in the Ultimate universe, now!

**** you, Loeb.

There is nothing wrong with robots in theory, because 616 stories like Ultron Unleashed are very good. Loeb is just a bad writer who can't do anything with the concept.
 

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