Ultimates 3 #1-5 discussion [Loeb/Madureira] [spoilers]

Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Hellsbuttmonkey said:

Moony: You must have very big pee-anis!
Loeb: Excuse me?!
Moony: Nothing. We are very simple people. With very small penis. We cannot achieve much with so small penis. But you! Wow! Penis so big! SOOO big penis!
Loeb: Well, it certainly was nice meeting you folk, I will go fix my comic now. Bye bye.
Moony: Good-bye. Thank you for stopping by, with your gargantuan penis.
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moonmaster said:
In that case, you better get ourchair to do it.
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Bwahahaha!
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

robje said:
Im pretty sure they have editors who read these things before they print it. If nobody went up to Loeb and said 'hey man, you realise you are quoting a movie line every ******* comicbook reader knows, right?' someone isnt doing their job.
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Ummm...someone (the editor, specifically) isn't doing their job when they allow the travesty that is Ultimates 3 out the door to the printers. Forget movie lines, the editors dropped the ball on this crap title almost as much as Loeb.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

DIrishB said:
Ummm...someone (the editor, specifically) isn't doing their job when they allow the travesty that is Ultimates 3 out the door to the printers. Forget movie lines, the editors dropped the ball on this crap title almost as much as Loeb.
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In the case of U3 going to the printers and for it happening- that's the ball dropped by Quesada and Buckley. The only thing the editors are too scared to do is tell Loeb that he has to explain this, that person can't be there yet, yaddah yaddah and etc.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

DIrishB said:
Ummm...someone (the editor, specifically) isn't doing their job when they allow the travesty that is Ultimates 3 out the door to the printers. Forget movie lines, the editors dropped the ball on this crap title almost as much as Loeb.
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Yeah, but it's selling so they probably could care less.

Why couldn't Mark do this book again?
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Venom Melendez said:
Yeah, but it's selling so they probably could care less.

Why couldn't Mark do this book again?
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It IS selling, true, but reviews across the board show that just about everyone hates it. From official-like comic review sites and blog, to simple comic fan message boards, this series is being lambasted like nothing else has been on comic message boards since Batman & Robin.

Seriously, its utterly terrible. Thats an opinion, sure, but one shared by just about everyone who reads it. At a certain point subjectiveness has to end.

Marvel as a company might be happy with sales, but it hurts them as a company also to have the flagship title of the Ultimate universe looked at as nothing more than a joke.

I think when Marvel announces Ultimates 4, it'll probably have a new creative team (completely new). If they're worried about interfereing (ie, editing) with Loeb's work, get rid of him and hire someone thats not only open to suggestion, but can write a halfway decent story and portray these iconic characters as something more than cardboard cut-out, token 90's arch-types.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Zombipanda said:
I'm afraid brainwashing won't work. Having his brain washed won't make his brain any more effective. So here's how it will go.

TGO will call in his favor from Kristen Kreuk to distract the Marvel employees while the plan goes underway.

The strike team will consist of the most vicious and lunatic members on the forum: moonmaster, Willverine (with Danny Trejo-style blades strapped to his chest. action figure coming soon), VVD, and Proj. The wheelman, of course, will be the crazy truck driver who almost killed Kristen Kreuk. Our strike team will secure Loeb while ourchair, under the cover of the chaos, will sneak into the editorial office and upload his extensive collection of lolita porn to Joe Quesadilla's computer.

Once Loeb has been secured at Gemini's secret warehouse, Houde will use his awesome science skills to literally take Loeb's FACE/OFF, switching it with mine, thereby leaving Loeb with a hilarious pandaface, and leaving me as UC's Manchurian Candidate. Quesadilla will be fired in a malestrom of shame, and I'll use the magnificent Loeb muscle to put E in charge, who will subsequently replace the full Marvel staff with UC members. We'll leave Mole with Mary-Jane Loves Spider-Man. Willverine can write All-Star The ******* Daredevil. Gammaman can take the reins of Ultimates v.3 and Ultimatum. I mean, it can't be worse than what they're feeding us now.

A secret invasion. It's just crazy enough to work!
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ill just stay here...
or maybe ill talk about music to someone.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Does Loeb realize that this comic is a plan work of ****? Is he aware that it's a piece of ****?

I guess what I'm pondering is,

a) Is he completely unaware of the comic's ****tiness?

or

b) Is he completely aware, smiling through his teeth knowing that he's severely damaged Marvel's credibility, and completely devastated fans?
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Langsta said:
Does Loeb realize that this comic is a plan work of ****? Is he aware that it's a piece of ****?

I guess what I'm pondering is,

a) Is he completely unaware of the comic's ****tiness?

or

b) Is he completely aware, smiling through his teeth knowing that he's severely damaged Marvel's credibility, and completely devastated fans?
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Do the fans not know that this only ends when they stop buying ****ty comics?
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Jeph Loeb thinks he's good because his comics sell very well and because a lot of high-ups in the business tell him he's good.

Hard to blame the guy for thinking he's good, huh?
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Bass said:
Jeph Loeb thinks he's good because his comics sell very well and because a lot of high-ups in the business tell him he's good.

Hard to blame the guy for thinking he's good, huh?
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Exactly.

Hard to tell a guy to stop working his craft when it's selling product, too.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Bass said:
Jeph Loeb thinks he's good because his comics sell very well and because a lot of high-ups in the business tell him he's good.

Hard to blame the guy for thinking he's good, huh?
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He wrote Teen Wolf and Commando. This makes him incapable of writing anything short of a masterpiece.
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

I've figured it all out!

Jeph Loeb is President Bush in disguise!

and whoever his editor is, is Dick Cheney!

DUN DUN DUNNNNNN!
 
Re: The Ultimates 3 #4 discussion (spoilers).

Gemini said:
thats precisely what that means

and Aron Coliete is John McCain

he'll be announced for Ultimates 4 and it'll take 100 years
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It is fine. Methuselah McCain thinks not in years, but in centuries! or as he likes to call it, "a vampire year"
 
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