DIrishB
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
Wha-Huh?
I just got a brain cramp.
Wha-Huh?
I just got a brain cramp.
Ultimates 3 #1-5 discussion [Loeb/Madureira] [spoilers]
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Ice
Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
Exactly what Loeb does to everyone. Check & mate. :wink:
thee great one
Master of TOG-fu.
Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
I can't even bring myself to discuss anything to do with this issue. It was worst than the first one.
I can't even bring myself to discuss anything to do with this issue. It was worst than the first one.
Dancanread
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
I recently read an interview with Mark Waid where he implied that Daniel Acuna was abruptly taken off The Flash because of strong backlash against his art on the web.
I really hope that someone of import actually trolls our boards and takes the universal criticism to heart and does something about it.
I recently read an interview with Mark Waid where he implied that Daniel Acuna was abruptly taken off The Flash because of strong backlash against his art on the web.
I really hope that someone of import actually trolls our boards and takes the universal criticism to heart and does something about it.
Ultimate Quicksilver
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
Holy crap that was bad...
The dialogue was... just off. I can't really say more about it... it's like reading a fanfic.
A really really bad fanfic.
Holy crap that was bad...
The dialogue was... just off. I can't really say more about it... it's like reading a fanfic.
A really really bad fanfic.
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ourchair
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Re: Ultimates 3 #1 spoiler/discussion
A few days ago I started reading this.
It was so bad, I couldn't finish it.
I finished it, and felt worse.
What the hell is this?
I haven't picked up Ultimates 2 # 13, simply because my old LCS is notorious at misplacing my pull list, and I haven't read much in the way of spoilers... but I suppose it's safe to assume that at the end of Millar/Hitch's work... everyone wins, and the Ultimates are released from their association with SHIELD right?
So why does this issue feel like I'm missing something out in terms of continuity or 'being up to speed'? And I don't mean in that clever in media res kind of way. I thought Marvel makes it a point for each arc to allow 'new readers' to be able to get into the story, but there's no recap page.
Instead of a nice neat recap page, we get the 'cool' introduction to our heroes with names as they appear --- because Loeb thinks this is some kind of Guy Ritchie film or something. The absurd thing though is that even though Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver appear in the first page, they don't get their names introduced until Wanda is shot in the end. Loeb is essentially trying to juxtapose the ostensible dramatic gravitas of "She's dead." next to SCARLET WITCH and QUICKSIVER captions.
There's also a lot of nonsense about Sex, Lies & DVD and Larry King and PR nightmares and all sorts of really awfully placed dialogue designed to remind us that we're reading a comic book set in the 21st century, that the writing is modern and NOW as if Jeph Loeb needs to remind us he's hip to the times even if he IS turning 50.* Granted, Millar also did that in his oh-so-far-from-actually-being-subtle way, but the difference between him and Loeb is that he did it WELL.
Then there's a really badly put together fight scene in which Joe Madureira thinks he knows how to bust the panel borders and work that whole 'post-modern' layout sensibility that serves the Japanese so well in their manga, when in reality he doesn't. I don't understand, is Hawkeye shooting to miss Venom's back? How many Venoms are there supposed to be in the bottom panel?
This is just ridiculous nonsense.
Hell, he could have gotten a garbage can lid and blocked its path with it. But then again, maybe Jeph Loeb has never seen The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
A few days ago I started reading this.
It was so bad, I couldn't finish it.
I finished it, and felt worse.
What the hell is this?
I haven't picked up Ultimates 2 # 13, simply because my old LCS is notorious at misplacing my pull list, and I haven't read much in the way of spoilers... but I suppose it's safe to assume that at the end of Millar/Hitch's work... everyone wins, and the Ultimates are released from their association with SHIELD right?
So why does this issue feel like I'm missing something out in terms of continuity or 'being up to speed'? And I don't mean in that clever in media res kind of way. I thought Marvel makes it a point for each arc to allow 'new readers' to be able to get into the story, but there's no recap page.
Instead of a nice neat recap page, we get the 'cool' introduction to our heroes with names as they appear --- because Loeb thinks this is some kind of Guy Ritchie film or something. The absurd thing though is that even though Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver appear in the first page, they don't get their names introduced until Wanda is shot in the end. Loeb is essentially trying to juxtapose the ostensible dramatic gravitas of "She's dead." next to SCARLET WITCH and QUICKSIVER captions.
There's also a lot of nonsense about Sex, Lies & DVD and Larry King and PR nightmares and all sorts of really awfully placed dialogue designed to remind us that we're reading a comic book set in the 21st century, that the writing is modern and NOW as if Jeph Loeb needs to remind us he's hip to the times even if he IS turning 50.* Granted, Millar also did that in his oh-so-far-from-actually-being-subtle way, but the difference between him and Loeb is that he did it WELL.
Then there's a really badly put together fight scene in which Joe Madureira thinks he knows how to bust the panel borders and work that whole 'post-modern' layout sensibility that serves the Japanese so well in their manga, when in reality he doesn't. I don't understand, is Hawkeye shooting to miss Venom's back? How many Venoms are there supposed to be in the bottom panel?
This is just ridiculous nonsense.
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Hibiki
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
he was the guy that did art for wally 'i just got back from nowhere' flash? I loved that art.
he was the guy that did art for wally 'i just got back from nowhere' flash? I loved that art.
Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
I can't even bring myself to even think about it any more to agree with you.
F-
I can't even bring myself to even think about it any more to agree with you.
F-
mike3717
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
OMG that was awful! And yes the dialogue is "off". When Loeb writes these characters they don't feel like the characters that we have read and known for the first 2 volumes. These seem like new characters, much closer to their 616 counterparts. It is really like Loeb didn't read the first 2 volumes. Or he did and then just said "f**k it! I'm doing it my way." The thing is he is such a hack that he can't convey anything without stating it literally. We know Hawkeye is screwy cuz of his family getting killed. But we don't need canned dialog with him saying, out loud, to spiderman for some reason, how he is so screwed up over his family!!! Like....DUH!!!!! Next issue cap will go into a long speech about he feels like a "man out of time". Cuz ya know....we couldn't figure that out. There is just no subtlty to this guys writing.
Either way....it is just so sad that such a great series is being so mangled by this pathetic excuse for a writer. I think Joe Q needs to share whatever it is he is smoking that makes it so when he reads this crap he thinks it is good.
OMG that was awful! And yes the dialogue is "off". When Loeb writes these characters they don't feel like the characters that we have read and known for the first 2 volumes. These seem like new characters, much closer to their 616 counterparts. It is really like Loeb didn't read the first 2 volumes. Or he did and then just said "f**k it! I'm doing it my way." The thing is he is such a hack that he can't convey anything without stating it literally. We know Hawkeye is screwy cuz of his family getting killed. But we don't need canned dialog with him saying, out loud, to spiderman for some reason, how he is so screwed up over his family!!! Like....DUH!!!!! Next issue cap will go into a long speech about he feels like a "man out of time". Cuz ya know....we couldn't figure that out. There is just no subtlty to this guys writing.
Either way....it is just so sad that such a great series is being so mangled by this pathetic excuse for a writer. I think Joe Q needs to share whatever it is he is smoking that makes it so when he reads this crap he thinks it is good.
Hibiki
Really is pretentious, no matter what she says. Do
Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
I would love some confirmation where it says joey quesadilla actually reads and approves of this material before it gets sent to print.
I would love some confirmation where it says joey quesadilla actually reads and approves of this material before it gets sent to print.
Joe Kalicki
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
Acuna is a terrible interior artist. Just terrible.
In fact, the whole Flash book has been terrible.
Acuna is a terrible interior artist. Just terrible.
In fact, the whole Flash book has been terrible.
McCheese
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
Why are you people buying and/or reading this crap?
You knew what was coming after you read the first issue. You will receive no sympathies from me, as you have clearly brought this pain upon yourselves.
Fools.
Why are you people buying and/or reading this crap?
You knew what was coming after you read the first issue. You will receive no sympathies from me, as you have clearly brought this pain upon yourselves.
Fools.
Joe Kalicki
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
I need to.
I need to.
McCheese
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Joe Kalicki
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
Skrull Jesus told me to.
Skrull Jesus told me to.
McCheese
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Re: Ultimates 3 #2 preview and interviews (spoilers i guess)
Urgh. It must be my obsessive-compulsiveness!
Ok, rave time:
Ultimates 3 just seems like a bad joke at best. Maybe they could just stop now, go on hiatus until they can find a writer (notice I said "writer", not "good writer". At this point I'd take the guy who writes the "See Spot Run" books over this crap we're getting) then come back with Ultimates 4.
This "creative team" (Ewww. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little) should be put to work on Amazing Spider-Man... I mean, with this whole Brand New Day crap even THEY couldn't do worse.
As for Joe Q, he must be trying to take Marvel back to the glory days when they couldn't sell a comic and almost went bankrupt. Bravo.
Urgh. It must be my obsessive-compulsiveness!
Ok, rave time:
Ultimates 3 just seems like a bad joke at best. Maybe they could just stop now, go on hiatus until they can find a writer (notice I said "writer", not "good writer". At this point I'd take the guy who writes the "See Spot Run" books over this crap we're getting) then come back with Ultimates 4.
This "creative team" (Ewww. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little) should be put to work on Amazing Spider-Man... I mean, with this whole Brand New Day crap even THEY couldn't do worse.
As for Joe Q, he must be trying to take Marvel back to the glory days when they couldn't sell a comic and almost went bankrupt. Bravo.
