Ultimate Marvel Timeline / Chronology (v. 3.0)
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DIrishB
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DGspider-fan said:
I know.
And thank you.
Ninjoc said:
Sweet! Glad to see people are actually taking the time to type that in!
Also, updated for the Ultimates - Tomorrow Men novel.
I might be a few days late on the updates for tomorrow's (8/30) issues, due to the tropical storm about to pass over us here in Florida. We might be out of power for a couple of days, so I'll be back on when I can.
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DIrishB
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Updated for Ultimate Fantastic Four #33 and Ultimate X-Men Annual #2.
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Hey DIrishB, I was looking over you list and for Utlimates 2 #1 you put The Ultimates 2. I was in the local store this week and I saw the sketch cover of the Ultimates 2 #1.The title on the side said, Gods and Monsters.
Frapalino
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DiB,
how much time do you estimate you've spent doing this?
how much time do you estimate you've spent doing this?
DIrishB
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the watcher said:
Sweet, thanks Watcher. I was never able to pick up the first issue, and had to resort to picking up the Marvel Must Haves collection which collected the first three issues. It had a title for the second and third issues, but not the first (other than "Ultimates 2").
Anyway, thanks for letting me know. Its been fixed.
Frapalino said:
Far too much.
When I first started putting this together, it was a major undertaking. But as time went on and I caught up to the current issues, it got easier and easier. Now its to the point of just adding in issues when they take place. There's always a small degree of rearrangement and having to keep in mind a bunch of continuity details, but it isn't too daunting.
Besides, I have you guys to depend on to let me know when I screw up.
DIrishB
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Updated for UXM #74, as well as broke up The Ultimates - Tomorrow Men novel to account for the time travel aspects of the book.
DIrishB
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Updated for Ultimates 2 #12 and USM #100.
USM #100 features several flashbacks during Richard's recounting to Peter how he survived the plane crash, etc. I chose not to break this issue up as I viewed those as more a part of the story Richard was telling Peter in the present as opposed to actual flashbacks occurring in the past.
As for Ultimates 2 #12, the only thing worth mentioning in terms of continuity is Nightcrawler's appearance fighting alongside the X-Men. Due to the events of the Magical arc and the UXM Annual #2, Nightcrawler was placed under sedation and restrained at the Mansion, thus having his appearance here make little sense. However, it can be argued that at some point in the near future Nightcrawler will rejoin the team, or that due to the circumstances of the invasion, his recent mistakes were either temporarily forgotten or forgiven to the point that this is possible while still making sense.
USM #100 features several flashbacks during Richard's recounting to Peter how he survived the plane crash, etc. I chose not to break this issue up as I viewed those as more a part of the story Richard was telling Peter in the present as opposed to actual flashbacks occurring in the past.
As for Ultimates 2 #12, the only thing worth mentioning in terms of continuity is Nightcrawler's appearance fighting alongside the X-Men. Due to the events of the Magical arc and the UXM Annual #2, Nightcrawler was placed under sedation and restrained at the Mansion, thus having his appearance here make little sense. However, it can be argued that at some point in the near future Nightcrawler will rejoin the team, or that due to the circumstances of the invasion, his recent mistakes were either temporarily forgotten or forgiven to the point that this is possible while still making sense.
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I think all the annuals take place after U2. We know Ultimates and Spider-man does, so it would make sense if all of them were after
DIrishB
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Actually, I don't think thats true at all. I think the decision to not have the three other titles take place after Ultimates 2 until it finishes is still holding true. I suspect next year we might see mentions of it in the other regular series, but then again, probably not.
The Ultimates Annual #2 most certainly takes place after Ultimates 2 (probably the next day).
However, the USM Annual #2 I believe most definitly takes place before the conclusion of Ultimates 2. Despite the TV screen in the background showing the Liberators, I think this was more of an easter egg than a chronological placing of the issue. Besides, the USM Annual #2 takes place between Morbius and the Clone Saga, and in the Clone Saga Fury still has both his arms (thats the main indicator). This means the Annual must occur before Ultimates 2 conclusion.
The UXM Annual #2 must also take place before Ultimates 2 conclusion due to it occurring immediately after the Magical arc, which occurred very soon after the Phoenix arc, during which Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk picks up and takes place (the remainder of the UWvs.H series will probably take place over one day, two at most, not counting any other flashbacks). With almost no doubt can I say the UXM Annual #2 occurs before the end of Ultimates 2.
As for the UFF Annual #2, I can't say for sure, but it most likely occurs between Frightful and God War, as it kind of kicked off Carey's run on the title.
As for Nightcrawler's appearance, it can either be chalked up to a continuity mistake, or what I said before:
Depending on what happens with Nightcrawler in the near future issues of UXM, the question will eventually be answered in some way. Most likely just a continuity screw-up. But easy to explain away.
vintsukka
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DIrishB said:
It is.
Nightcrawler was captured by the Liberators along with the other X-Men and they broke out together and started fighting them together. Makes sense to me. I don't think in that situation Xavier's (or anyone else's for that matter) first thought would be "We have to detain Nightcrawler again before doing anything else", it would be more on the lines of "Let's give 'em hell!"
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DIrishB
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Exactly.
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What makes you think it takes place between Morbius and Clone saga? Was it announce somewhere? Cause it doesnt seem to have any indicators that it is. And I dont think they would of thrown something like the Colonel in just as an easter egg.
Again was it announced somewhere that Magical happens right before the Annual? And we have no idea how much time passes between UWvsH. and the events in U2. I haven't read it so I'm not certain. It depends on what happens in the Cable arc.
I'm just thinking along the lines with last year's annuals were most of them didnt come into contiuty till 5 months later. I just havent seen anything solid that proves where it is in the timeline, but again your the expert
Ice
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Remembering that Bendis said somewhere that he'd do a mention to the GTA arc after the story finished, I'll say that D!B is right with the easter egg thing about the appeareance in the USM annual.
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Still doesnt mean the annual cant take place after that
Ice
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Yes it can seeing as how nothing's been written to take place straight after the Ultimates 2 GTA arc. And besides, where's the evidence that this would take place after?
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Well mainly because of the tv in USM because showing the colonel is something that shouldnt be thrown in there. Its the only continuity indicator there is in the issue. Also I dont think Nightcrawler would still be wearing his uniform. Also as I said with last year's annual they (at least USM for sure) didnt come into continuity almost half a year later. And it just sounds like DIB assumes the USM annual takes place before the clone saga, he hasnt given real evidence. But we won't know for sure until the Cable arc in UXM and after the clone saga when either Dewolfe, kingpin, or Ult. Knights deal are mentioned.
vintsukka
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For one thing, it was collected in the Deadpool TPB. For another, there's a lot of New York City scenery shown in the Annual and no trace of the mayhem the Liberators caused.
I do agree wholeheartedly that it was stupid putting the picture of the Colonel in the Annual.
Actually they overlapped a bit. In the last issue of Magical we see Nightcrawler running off with a backpack, clearly bringing food to Dazzler. And then there's the conversation between Xavier and Wolverine in the Annual that pretty much implies that it's right on the heels of Magical.
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I thought Annuals were traded separate? Oh well, that's what I was looking for
