Ultimate Comics Spider-Man (discussion/spoilers)

Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

I thought that was Mysterio disapearing without leaving a trace for the police to follow. He'll be back as soon as he sets up his base somewhere else.
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

It made it very apparent that the only purpose of this first arc was to set up the new status quo.

Yeah that kinda bummed me out. It seemed like this arc was finally picking up some steam and we were going to see a good spidey and friends brawl against Mysterio and then it just.....stopped.
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

What is leading you all to believe that Mysterio is Wade Wilson? I remember one of you said that a bit ago... What evidence is there of that?
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

I thought that was Mysterio disapearing without leaving a trace for the police to follow. He'll be back as soon as he sets up his base somewhere else.

This is how I read it... I really don't think they were saying Mysterio is gone for good... I bet he's gone for one story-arc at MOST, and even then, I bet he pops up at the end.
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

What is leading you all to believe that Mysterio is Wade Wilson? I remember one of you said that a bit ago... What evidence is there of that?

Evidence? There is none, it's just a hunch.

Remember when Bendis made Deadpool talk to his audience on television, making him look like he was breaking the fourth wall? Mysterio reminds me of this, he loves exposition and talking to an audience he cannot see. How many monologues were there where he talked for no one but the reader?

There is also the illusions and the use of technology. Deadpool used a kind of illusion technology to change his appearance, and there is the whole thing about the Reapers and the fact that he was himself augmented through technology.

And finally, Mysterio really, really wants to get Spidey out of the picture, and quickly, it's almost an obsession. And Deadpool, in his arc, gradually shifted from mutant hater to being annoyed to no end by that "pest" Spider-Man.
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

Evidence? There is none, it's just a hunch.

Remember when Bendis made Deadpool talk to his audience on television, making him look like he was breaking the fourth wall? Mysterio reminds me of this, he loves exposition and talking to an audience he cannot see. How many monologues were there where he talked for no one but the reader?

There is also the illusions and the use of technology. Deadpool used a kind of illusion technology to change his appearance, and there is the whole thing about the Reapers and the fact that he was himself augmented through technology.

And finally, Mysterio really, really wants to get Spidey out of the picture, and quickly, it's almost an obsession. And Deadpool, in his arc, gradually shifted from mutant hater to being annoyed to no end by that "pest" Spider-Man.

You think Bendis remembers that far back?
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

I believe he set up Wade Wilson as a madman who progressively get a strong grip against Spidey, yes. Bendis has never completely forgot any of his plot points, even the one about Peter's parents, he got "wrong" in Origins, but then got it right in the War of the Symbiotes arc.
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

Never forgets a plot point? Even Geldoff?
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

I believe he set up Wade Wilson as a madman who progressively get a strong grip against Spidey, yes. Bendis has never completely forgot any of his plot points, even the one about Peter's parents, he got "wrong" in Origins, but then got it right in the War of the Symbiotes arc.

I think this is giving him too much credit. I have really enjoyed most of Bendis' work. I love New Avengers, I've loved pretty much all of USM. However, time and time again we have seen Bendis play fast and loose with continuity and he has never been one to make really long connections (I honestly feel like Secret Invasion was Bendis leaving himself a lot of open hooks and figuring it out along the way. Something clicked and he used those hooks to tie it all together. The world may never know.).
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

Never forgets a plot point? Even Geldoff?

Geldoff was supposed to be used again in an event, you can't blame Bendis if it didn't happen. And I have a feeling that the Geldoff problem will come back in Enemy.

I think this is giving him too much credit. I have really enjoyed most of Bendis' work. I love New Avengers, I've loved pretty much all of USM. However, time and time again we have seen Bendis play fast and loose with continuity and he has never been one to make really long connections (I honestly feel like Secret Invasion was Bendis leaving himself a lot of open hooks and figuring it out along the way. Something clicked and he used those hooks to tie it all together. The world may never know.).

I don't care about his 616 work, acutally. I was speaking about his Ultimate work. Which is not perfect, mind you, but in Deadpool case I don't see what could go wrong : Deadpool wasn't supposed to be involved in another book, he was a Spidey villain first and foremost. I don't think it would be too much of a stretch of imagining him becoming Mysterio. For me, it fits.
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

I don't care about his 616 work, acutally. I was speaking about his Ultimate work. Which is not perfect, mind you, but in Deadpool case I don't see what could go wrong : Deadpool wasn't supposed to be involved in another book, he was a Spidey villain first and foremost. I don't think it would be too much of a stretch of imagining him becoming Mysterio. For me, it fits.

Whether you read it or not, the 616 work is still indicative of the writer's ability. Don't get me wrong. I do not think Bendis is a bad writer, I just don't think his thought process is to take Ultimate Deadpool from a poorly recieved arc during the down days of USM and relaunch his line with him redressing himself as Mysterio. I just don't think that's where this is headed. Could it fit? Absolutely. Would it be cool? Kinda... Ultimate deadpool pretty much sucks though. Do I think this is where that is headed? Not at all... I just don't think that's where Bendis is taking us.
 
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2 (Discussion/Spoilers)

I just read up through #6 and I really hate what this book has become.

I hate the cutesiness, I hate the wacky home life subplots, and I loathe the art. It's not adorable and it's not cute. It's awful.

Bendis is still in top form, of course. Mysterio and Spider-Man are battling on the bridge and out of nowhere Mysterio shouts out "You just don't get it do you?" Get what? What an idiotic line. There is nothing to get. There's nothing to explain.

This entire thing is idiotic and this is the worst this book has been. I hate how he's forced characters into the book by having Iceman and Human Torch live with him. It's forced and stupid and makes no sense.
 
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ULTIMATE COMICS SPIDER-MAN #9
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Pencils & Cover by DAVID LAFUENTE
It's the return of Spider-Woman! And guess who she totally makes out with in this issue! What?? Yeah, you heard me!! Wanna see a Spider-Man story you have never ever ever ever seen before? We promise you, it's right here!! All this and Kitty's Pryde's world comes crashing down around her as the U.S. government comes to Midtown High to collect her.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99

Yes!!!! Please be Johnny!
And I agree with TOG, Ice and strangefate! Im loving this **** to death!!!
 

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