Smallville (spoilers)

TheManWithoutFear said:
Lana's character is Clark leaving Smallville behind. If there's no Lana, Clark would have little desire to not leave Smallville behind... From what you heard is that the writers turned Lana into a witch and a vampire. I said it already that Lana is best as a supporting character which is all she should be. Lana biting it is just plain crazy talk.
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No, that's *precisely* my point. Doesn't Smallville have an inherently limited lifespan, as a series? Sooner or later, it will *need* to be renamed Metropolis or Superman: Year One or whatever, because Clark WILL leave. That is the one certainty we have. And what better way to bring a sense of finality and closure to that than by killing off the one person who's keeping Clark restricted to his small-town roots?
 
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compound said:
No, that's *precisely* my point. Doesn't Smallville have an inherently limited lifespan, as a series? Sooner or later, it will *need* to be renamed Metropolis or Superman: Year One or whatever, because Clark WILL leave. That is the one certainty we have. And what better way to bring a sense of finality and closure to that than by killing off the one person who's keeping Clark restricted to his small-town roots?
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I suppose you're right but we know how Lana's gonna die. Of old age with her husband by her side wearing the kryptonite necklace.
 
TheManWithoutFear said:
I suppose you're right but we know how Lana's gonna die. Of old age with her husband by her side wearing the kryptonite necklace.
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No, we don't. My theory on "Hereafter" is that Jordan's powers are like an Aleph -- similar to the way Doc Manhattan percieves reality, in that sense. He can forecast most-likely outcomes, but it's not 'fate' or 'destiny'. We realize that much when they averted Lana's death in the fire.

Again, we've got literally "Infinite" Earths and realities and possibilities in the DC mutliverse, and I don't think it would be an upsetting contradiction to prove Jordan's vision wrong, if it means being able to tell a more compelling and dramatic story.
 
compound said:
No, we don't. My theory on "Hereafter" is that Jordan's powers are like an Aleph -- similar to the way Doc Manhattan percieves reality, in that sense. He can forecast most-likely outcomes, but it's not 'fate' or 'destiny'. We realize that much when they averted Lana's death in the fire.

Again, we've got literally "Infinite" Earths and realities and possibilities in the DC mutliverse, and I don't think it would be an upsetting contradiction to prove Jordan's vision wrong, if it means being able to tell a more compelling and dramatic story.
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Well I'll bet all of my Daredevil comics that Lana doesn't die.
 
compound said:
DC has a long, storied history of Infinite Earths, for better or worse -- no reason why Smallville should have to be consistent with any of the existing continuities. I'm putting my money on Lana biting it. From what I understand, the character has outlived her usefulness in the ongoing story.

The only purpose she has left, really, is as jerk-off material for guys like MwoF.

By this time next year, Kreuk will be reduced to doing straight-to-video fodder like House of Wax 2. Fact.
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Personally, whoever's going to be killed off is still anyone's guess, with only Lois Lane to be the least likely to be the one, because she's the most prominent character in the Superman's supporting cast and Clark's future love interest.

If you're going to use "they're going to be alive in the comics" as the basis, that would be rather poor. A lot of characters in the previous seasons actually show up as supporting cast members or villains in current Superman continuity, such as Dr. Hamilton and Morgan Edge. We could also see that the writers are taking more and more liberties away from comic continuity. They originally planned to explain how come Chloe would never show up in DC continuity, but her character has become so significant especially in this season that I doubt they will off her like that. Lois is now a major character from simply a geek reference in the early seasons.

Oh, I hope Brainiac can still come back. I also like that the episodes have become more compelling (Splinter is one of the best Smallville episodes IMO), after the slight letdown I felt with Thirst and Exposed. This season's feeling a heck of a lot better than Season 4.
 
compound said:
DC has a long, storied history of Infinite Earths, for better or worse -- no reason why Smallville should have to be consistent with any of the existing continuities. I'm putting my money on Lana biting it. From what I understand, the character has outlived her usefulness in the ongoing story.

The only purpose she has left, really, is as jerk-off material for guys like MwoF.

By this time next year, Kreuk will be reduced to doing straight-to-video fodder like House of Wax 2. Fact.
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BEST.POST.EVER!!!!!



compound said:
By this time next year, Kreuk will be reduced to doing straight-to-video fodder like House of Wax 2. Fact.
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AGAIN......let me just say...BEST.POST.EVER!!!!!! :lol:
 
TheManWithoutFear said:
Because he took a shot at me.
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No....actually because he sees the exact same thing in Lana as I do.........nothing!!!!! She is the live female human version to a glass of milk or water. Not bad........but it needs something.

Lois, of course, is the baddest looking chick outta all of them......but I have a soft spot in my heart for Chloe (who is looking the best she's ever looked this season).


I <3 Chloe!!!! I wanna marry Chloe!!!! I wanna have Chloe's investegatory journalist babies!!!!! :lol:
 
I stick to my guns. It's not Kristin's fault they put more on her character then there had to be.

As for whose gonna die and the whole superman mythos. Give me a break. We don't know which alternate universe they'll use? I'll tell you which one the one most people are familiar with. Lana's a part of it and Jonathan is dead in it.

Johnathan and Lionel. Not Chloe cause for some reason people like the whole "sidekick" thing she does, not Lana because there's gonna be more to her finding out about Clark's powers and trusting him (It's a major part of Clark's life), not Martha because she outlives Jonathan, Not Lex (Obviously) same with Lois (and don't even bother coming in here with your crazy "Chloe = Lois" theories if you have them). Whoever the guy who played Pete is won't be coming back and the death is gonna be a dramatic on screen thing. But No one is gonna feel cheated if it's Pa Kent because they want to see it happen. It's one of the first things fans wanted to see happen when they started watching the show... "He's gonna die somewhere in this series"

I've already stated why the "other" death should be Lionel.
 
TheManWithoutFear said:
Johnathan and Lionel.....
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Out of those 2.....and based on what Jor-El said....I'd say Jonathan too.


On a small sidenote---with Brainiac "gone" for now...who do you think should or will be the next big villian threat to Clark?
 
Victor Von Doom said:
On a small sidenote---with Brainiac "gone" for now...who do you think should or will be the next big villian threat to Clark?
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No one. I don't think they need to bring in a Superman villain just for the sake of it. Lex's turn to the darkside is enough. Brainiac was a pleasant little bit they gave us... I really hope he doesn't come back to soon. But I really think they should just let it be...
 
ah, I just miss 10 min. of Smallville. Because a plane over shot the runway at Midway.
 
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Can anyone tell me what happen to cause Lana to be in the Hospital? A plan crashed at midway and I missed ten mins. of this episode. By the way It's not that big of a crash. The plane crashed throw a barier and landed on the highway. With the nose down. It hit a car. but so far now deaths.
 
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What wasn't too like? I thought it would majorly suck then remember it was Lex centered... went into it and enjoyed it.

LEx goes to see a sleezey guy about digging up dirt on Kent. But Lex is unsure if he wants to do this. Lex gets shot going back to his car and is shown an alternate future by his mother. I want to noted this is not what would've happened if he chose the good path. Notice Clark is in Smallville as an adult? Regardless of Lex's path Clark would've been out of there as Superman. This vision Lex was having was a product of his own fantasies. The story was good Lex has a family with Lana and is a respected middle classed man in the community of Smallville. Lex's mother's ghost guides him through his new life, appearing now and then. However Lana is pregnant and on X-Mas eve she dies after giving birth and suffering from hemoraging. Lex then deals with... "If I turn into a good guy the ones I love will die because I won't have the power to save them" So he snaps out of his coma and tells this guy to dig up or make up something about Johnathan Kent so he can use it against him in the Senate race. The ending shot was Lex alone in his hospital room looking out on Metropolis with his mother's reflection staring at him.

The other minor plot was set in the real reality. Chloe has to deliver presents to homeless kids because the teamsters went on strike. Chloe calls Clark to act as Superman and help deliver them. Cool scene with Clark speeding around Metropolis delivering presents. He then meets the real Santa Claus, who is drunk and doubting the spirit of Christmas. Clark saves his life from falling off a roof (cool scene with clark speeding down the side of a building). Later the Santa visits Chloe and offers to help deliver the presents. Chloe goes to grab directions to the house and magically Santa and the presents are gone.

The guy playing Santa was Magically Eerie. Chloe's cleavage. Clark speeding around Metropolis, Lana makes a good mother, Lionel being very bitter. Good episode.

4/5 not a bad episode at all. Better than the last holiday special. Lana was a Vampire. I know. You were trying to forget. I'm sorry.
 
Great episode. I like the refrence to Lex and Lois' earth-3 son Alexander. I like how Lex is going to be a villain so he can keep Lana alive. That was very tragic. The only bad part about this episode is no Lois.
 
thee great one said:
I like how Lex is going to be a villain so he can keep Lana alive. That was very tragic.
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I had a bit of a problem with this at first. I thought it would be somewhat out of character if Lex turned bad just to keep Lana alive and then he gave his dialogue. It isn't him turning bad just to protect Lana it's more that he's turning bad because he thinks that the lesson learned was to have power is to have control over the fate of yourself and others. That made it more Lex-like to me.
 
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