Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

A couple of questions now that I've seen Age of Ultron (so good!):

Is the Helicarrier from the finale intended to be the same one Nick had in the first Avengers movie? I just assumed so when I watched it, and Agents of SHIELD seemed to me to imply that the resources Theta Protocol was using were going towards acquiring/repairing/maintaining/retrofitting the helicarrier and keeping it secret. But I've seen several reviews of both the film and the episode that state that Coulson was actually building a brand new helicarrier. That doesn't seem to jive with Fury's comment that he pulled it out of mothballs, but maybe I'm missing something.

Not sure where people are drawing that conclusion from. As you said, between the AoS flashback that showed the Helicarrier combined with Fury's dialogue about it being in storage, I think it's more likely they just had an existing Helicarrier in storage.

None of the spin off comics for AoU mention the Helicarrier, let alone Coulson building a new one, so I think that's just a big leap in logic some are making.

Okay, this is really out of left field and probably wishful thinking on my part, but I swear that during the scene when Ultron starts learning about the state of the world, amongst the stock footage somewhere there's a newspaper headline for the Daily [Something]. Was this the Daily Bugle? I was really hoping to catch it the next time I saw the movie, but I missed it. I can't believe they'd slip it in there without anyone noticing, but there are no existing newspapers I know of in the MCU with "Daily" in their title, except the Daily Cadet.

TC

It could've been, they certainly could've added it in as a tease or Easter Egg to foreshadow Spidey coming to the MCU, and the deal with Sony was certainly finalized in time that they could've inserted a graphic showing that.

I didn't catch that, and it hasn't been spotted by anyone else in the many lists/videos online that break down all the little Easter eggs and nods to the comics in AoU.
 
This interview, in discussing the placement of Age of Ultron, states "it's implied that the events [of Winter Soldier] have happened, and we're a little bit a ways from it. I don't know, maybe a couple months."

Not hard evidence of much, but maybe a sign we should be thinking about pushing AoU back into 2014.
 
This interview, in discussing the placement of Age of Ultron, states "it's implied that the events [of Winter Soldier] have happened, and we're a little bit a ways from it. I don't know, maybe a couple months."

Not hard evidence of much, but maybe a sign we should be thinking about pushing AoU back into 2014.

Except AoS showed otherwise. There's no hard evidence (no dialogue, no on screen dates, no props with dates, nothing; not even a year) seen in AoU. Also, the "little bit a ways from it" and "I don't know, maybe a couple months" comments don't instill much confidence (this is what I'm talking about in terms of the producers of the MCU not paying much attention to the timeline... I guarantee that dude just kind of made up the answer, and that it hadn't really been discussed internally regarding an exact timeline or frame of time--it's made intentionally ambiguous in Age of Ultron).

If it's only been a couple months since the events of Winter Soldier, that means Age of Ultron would occur around January, maybe February of 2014. Didn't see any snow on the ground on New York (only in the mountainous regions of Sokovia, actually).

Also, that would make AoS's 2nd Season impossible or incorrect. For one, we know AoS Season 1 ends towards the end of October, 2013. Season 2 picks up some time later, and Coulson mentions they've been chased all winter by Talbot, indicating AoS Season 2 starts sometime after winter, early Spring at the earliest, which wouldn't work with how it crosses over with AoU towards the end of the second season.

It would also require pushing ALL of AoS Season 2, Guardians of the Galaxy (that's definitely occurring in 2014 based on the hard date of 1988 in the opening prologue scene and the "26 years later" tag in the next scene), and Age of Ultron all in January of 2014? It just doesn't work.

You could argue that GotG can be placed after Age of Ultron, but that's not the case because of it being a Phase 2 film and the Avengers films capping off the phases, and the chronology of it is obvious based on the plots of GotG and AoU each centering around a stone (just as Thor-TDW did).

The AoU mid credits scene is a sort of capping off of the fact he knows the location of four of the six stones:

-Tesseract/Space Stone is in Asgard

-Loki's Sceptre/Mind Stone is in Vision's forehead

-Aether/Reality Stone is in The Collector's Museum

-Orb/Power Stone is in possession of the Nova Corps on Xandar

No doubt the last two will be revealed somewhere along the way in Phase 3, and I suspect another will play a role in Doctor Strange and/or GotG2.

I also think that Thor - Ragnarok will end as expected and implied by the name, with Asgard in ruins (perhaps attacked by Surtur or other enemies of Asgard, and manipulated by Thanos into doing so), and Thanos shows up in the mid or post credits scene to obtain the Tesseract.

Infinity War, Part 1 can open with similar attacks when necessary to obtain the other 5 stones (a montage, it doesn't need to be a drawn out series of overly long action sequences).

Have Thanos come to Earth at that point to obtain the last stone he needs (Vision's Mind Stone), and the Avengers, Guardians, and a cosmic entity or two take him on.

Part 2 begins with the actual battle, a quick loss, recuperation/cavalry riding in portion, and final battle and fallout/epilogue/set up for the next chapter (Phase 4).
 
Could the WW2 veterans at the Avengers party be a hint that the film takes place at the beginning of May, and they're there because it's the anniversary of VE Day?
 
Could the WW2 veterans at the Avengers party be a hint that the film takes place at the beginning of May, and they're there because it's the anniversary of VE Day?

Not necessarily. I just think Cap relates to those guys more (they are his generation) and he likely knows those guys from a local Vets association or something and wanted to invite them to share in the victory (Cap missed out on the original VE Day celebration, after all, as he was frozen in the ice at the time).

It's possible, but I don't think it qualifies as anywhere near definitive even if that does line up with the time of its release.
 
s2e1 occurs in spring 2014 after "all winter". Age of Ultron thus occurs in the Springish of 2015 since last weeks s2e20 flash back to "one year ago" was at most a day or two before s2e1 which occurred after Coulson got back from his fake trip to London.
 
That AoS finale! Seems it will only get more crazy next time round, shame we have a dry Marvel period
 
Updated for the GotG Prelude Infinite comic. It didn't require breaking up any pages or anything (once collected into print form its only a 15 page story), and since it occurs over the course of maybe a few hours at most keeping it whole and not broken up by page number works fine.

I saw the TPB at my local bookstore today so picked it up. Strangely, the Prequel Infinite comic is titled "Dangerous Prey" in the TPB, but wasn't titled in its original digital form. I've included its entry as "Guardians of the Galaxy - Prequel Infinite #1, "Dangerous Prey"" to combine both titles so there's no confusion should someone be reading the print or digital versions.

As soon as I come across the Avengers - Age of Ultron TPB I'll update for the "Avengers - Age of Ultron: Prelude - This Scepter'd Isle: Infinite #1" (that one definitely will require breaking it up by page number) and the "Avengers #1-2" movie adaptations (also requiring extensive page number breaks). Haven't seen it in my local shop yet so I'm sure it'll be a few months before I see it on their shelves.
 
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Can someone post the quotes and episodes that date Daredevil to the latter half of 2014? I'm debating with a friend on this one. I know they're there, but I can't remember off the top of my head.

TC
 
Can someone post the quotes and episodes that date Daredevil to the latter half of 2014? I'm debating with a friend on this one. I know they're there, but I can't remember off the top of my head.

TC

Just check the posts around the date it premiered (April 10, 2015) and afterward. Check both in this thread and in the Daredevil TV series thread here on the forum (some info may be there but I think it's all contained in this thread). So just go back several pages (or a bit more) and you should find it.

Specifically, off the top of my head I remember that Matt and Foggy meet in one of the flashback scenes to their college days, and it specifically takes place during either August or September of 2010, since Foggy is signing up online specifically for Fall 2010 courses. The Fall 2010 date is clearly visible on the screen, as is a sticker on Foggy's laptop back that has 2009 printed on it (we can assume this sticker is a year old at that point).

I can't remember the specific episode, either the fifth or the sixth, where Matt confronts the cop and takes his phone. When Matt and Claire read the text message the cop received just when Matt confronted him the date on it was August (can't remember the specific day), 2014.

The show lasts a little over a month in terms of internal timeline, if I recall correctly.
 
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hi mr. DIrishB,

Thank you so much for this thread, and all the obvious hard work you've done, and especially for sharing it with the rest of us. I've been kind of searching around the web for a few years now, looking for something as comprehensive as this timeline. I certainly could not have done it myself. I have all the movies, TV series, One-shots, comics, etc., but one thing I am wondering about is the deleted/extended/extra scenes found on most of the DVDs. Shouldn't they be included in the timeline? They don't seem to contradict any of the continuity. I'm wondering how you approach this subject. Again, thank you for sharing.

Naomi
 
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hi mr. DIrishB,

Thank you so much for this thread, and all the obvious hard work you've done, and especially for sharing it with the rest of us. I've been kind of searching around the web for a few years now, looking for something as comprehensive as this timeline. I certainly could not have done it myself. I have all the movies, TV series, One-shots, comics, etc., but one thing I am wondering about is the deleted/extended/extra scenes found on most of the DVDs. Shouldn't they be included in the timeline? They don't seem to contradict any of the continuity. I'm wondering how you approach this subject. Again, thank you for sharing.

Naomi

Welcome to the boards.

As far as deleted or extended scenes, those are considered non-canon. While they may not contradict anything in the theatrical releases, they also aren't technically a part of the movie, thus non-canon.

If they are to release an extended edition of Age of Ultron as has been rumored, then that extended edition (with all the deleted scenes reintegrated back into the film) will be included since its been released in an official capacity in that extended edition as opposed to just a deleted scene.

But yeah, deleted scenes, unless reintegrated into an official extended edition, are non-canon. This is Marvel's official response on the deleted scene thing as well, I'm pretty sure.
 
Thanks Irish, that makes sense. now I'm gonna use your timeline to watch/read my collection. peace.
 
During ep 16 of season 1, May says to Coulson just after Ward shoots the clairvoyant that Fury is back at the triskellion, that doesn't fit correctly in the timeline, wouldn't know how to place it as the rest fits
 
During ep 16 of season 1, May says to Coulson just after Ward shoots the clairvoyant that Fury is back at the triskellion, that doesn't fit correctly in the timeline, wouldn't know how to place it as the rest fits

I'll double check. It may merely be explained as May not knowing Fury was dead yet (if those portions line up).
 
Irish and I argued this back and forth a few months ago and we both agreed that the way it is on the timeline is probably the only way it really fits. While I agree it doesn't make sense, Irish's point that May just doesn't know Fury's dead yet is logical.

It's that whole thing where Winter Soldier takes place in 4 days and the tie in episodes take place in only 2.
 
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Irish and I argued this back and forth a few months ago and we both agreed that the way it is on the timeline is probably the only way it really fits. While I agree it doesn't make sense, Irish's point that May just doesn't know Fury's dead yet is logical.

It's that whole thing where Winter Soldier takes place in 4 days and the tie in episodes take place in only 2.

Exactly.
 

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