Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

[DE23111]

Wow. For someone I've never met personally, that news hit me. I haven't been on this sight lately, but I would always head over here to see what he had to say, he worked so hard and thoroughly on this that you would have been foolish not to take his work into account. I know we went back and forth once or twice, but it was never out of malice, it was out of passion for something we all love, and his dedication to this timeline, something that only a select group of people will every be able to truly appreciate, will always be remembered.

We will forever be thankful to you Irish. Thank you for your work, thank you for your dedication, and thank you for your patience.

 

[E]

Admin here.

If you guys can come up with a way to keep making changes and updates to the timelines I'm happy to accommodate.

For anyone who didn't know, David and I were in the process of moving the timelines to a new, separate site - http://thetimelinesite.com

He was the brains and I was the brawn. He maintained the timelines, I maintained the site. I don't really know anything about the timelines themselves, I just drove the vehicle, so to speak.

One idea I had was to transform everything into a wiki that anyone could edit, but I defer to the community.

 

[Dan Neal]

@freshmaker Was there ever an official word on whether the stark expo videos were official canon or not? I noticed IrishDB has it on his timeline but you don't have them on yours.

 

[marioxb]

@freshmaker Was there ever an official word on whether the stark expo videos were official canon or not? I noticed IrishDB has it on his timeline but you don't have them on yours.

If you mean the (continued) timeline on this site, look under 1974 and 2010 and you'll see them:

Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)

All credit goes to DIrishB. Original thread here: https://www.thecomicboard.com/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe-timeline.13339/ Timeline reasoning document (credit to @dsethlewis): docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18lvrzM9iU62W5bul43WW4cNNGGuJt155SeuHM7ng-R4/ Detailed MCU Timeline

www.thecomicboard.com

 

[Dan Neal]

I was referring to @freshmaker 's timeline on p15 of this thread. I see that the DIrishB timeline does have it but freshmaker does not. So I was asking if there was some discrepancy on canonicity of these videos.

 

[freshmaker]

@freshmaker Was there ever an official word on whether the stark expo videos were official canon or not? I noticed IrishDB has it on his timeline but you don't have them on yours.

I searched around and didn't find anything where anyone says one way or another about the canonicity of the Stark Expo videos. I don't include any of the promotional videos or material in the order of publication list.

 

[Dan Neal]

@freshmaker Ahh gotcha, I thought they fit much into the category of the WHIH clips (which seem to be promotional as well). They seem less "official" than the one-shots like "Item 47" but seem on the same level of the WHIH videos. But thanks for the clarification!

 

[ThoughtTie24110]

Hi

 

[A13G10]

Hi

Hello Peter.

 

[ThoughtTie24110]

Hello Peter.

I understood that reference

 

[Jamesctl]

This is the Marvel Cinematic Universe Timeline. It includes a chronological breakdown of the MCU movies (and the various MCU television series, comics, and One Shots):

Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America - The First Avenger
The Avengers
Iron Man 3
Thor - The Dark World
Captain America - The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers - Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Captain America - Civil War
Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Spider-Man - Homecoming
Thor - Ragnarok
Black Panther
Avengers - Infinity War
Ant-Man and the Wasp

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - Seasons 1-5
Agent Carter - Seasons 1-2
Daredevil - Seasons 1-2
Jessica Jones - Season 1
Luke Cage - Season 1
Iron Fist - Season 1
The Defenders - Season 1
Inhumans - Season 1
The Punisher - Season 1
Runaways - Season 1
Jessica Jones - Season 2
Cloak & Dagger - Season 1


The movies are broken down by DVD chapter, and sometimes even the DVD chapters are broken into subsequent sections to allow for passage of time or insertion of events from other movies or canon MCU comic books. Movies yet to be released on DVD are placed tentatively.


Also, tentative placements for upcoming MCU movies and television series are included:


Captain Marvel
Avengers - ????

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - Season 6
Luke Cage - Season 2
Cloak and Dagger - Season 1
Daredevil - Season 3
Iron Fist - Season 2
New Warriors - Season 1
The Punisher - Season 2
Runaways - Season 2




The Marvel One-Shot short films are also included, specifically:

"The Consultant"
"A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer..."
"Item 47"
"Agent Carter"
"All Hail the King"

Any future Marvel One-Shots will also be included.




The various YouTube WHiH video shorts for Ant-Man, Captain America - Civil War, and Iron Fist are also included, as are the Agents of SHIELD Slingshot webisodes, and Spider-Man - Homecoming promotional shorts:


Stark Expo 1974
Stark Expo 2010 - CordCo (jankz.com)
Stark Expo 2010 - Fujikawa (jankz.com)
Stark Expo 2010 - Better Living Through Technology
Stark Expo 2010 - AccuTech
WHiH Newsfront Promo - July 2, 2015
WHiH Newsfront Top Stories
WHiH Exclusive - 2012 VistaCorp break-in security footage involving cyber-criminal Scott Lang
WIRED Insider Interviews Darren Cross, CEO of Pym Technologies
WHiH EXCLUSIVE - Scott Lang Interview
Avengers Impact - A WHiH Newsfront Special Report
WHiH Newsfront - The Cost of Saving the World
WHiH Newsfront - The Avengers and the White House
WHiH Newsfront Exclusive - President Ellis Discusses the Avengers
WHiH Breaking News - Attack in Lagos
Spider-Man: Homecoming - NBA Finals Spot #1 - "The Invite"
Spider-Man: Homecoming - NBA Finals Spot #2 - "Peter Arrives"
Spider-Man: Homecoming - NBA Finals Spot #3 - "The Bodega"
Spider-Man: Homecoming - NBA Finals Spot #4 - "The Party"
Spider-Man: Homecoming - Audi - "Driver's Test"
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - Slingshot 1x01-1x06
Jessica Jones - Good Morning
Jessica Jones - Nightcap
Jessica Jones - Evening Stroll
Jessica Jones - All in a Day's Work
Jessica Jones - Flash by Facts: Trish - "AKA I Want Your Cray Cray"
Iron Fist - New York Bulletin - Joy and Ward Meachum Special Report
Iron Fist - Learn Kenjutsu - The Wing Way!
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - Ghost Rider Found Cell Phone Footage
Thanksgiving with Marvel's Runaways
Luke Cage - "More than an arm. It's a chance to get back to work."







Also included are the canon MCU comic stories, specifically:



Captain America - The First Avenger: First Vengeance #1-4
Captain America - The First Avenger #1-2 (Film Adaptation)
Captain America - The Winter Soldier: Infinite #1
Captain America - Civil War: Prelude #1-4 (Film Adaptation)
Captain America - Civil War: Prelude - Infinite #1
Iron Man - I Am Iron Man #1-2 (Film Adaptation)
Iron Man 2 #1-2 (Film Adaptation)
Iron Man 2 - Public Identity #1-3
Iron Man 2 - Agents of SHIELD #1
Iron Man 3 - Prelude #1-2
Thor #1-2 (Film Adaptation)
Thor - The Dark World: Prelude #1-2
Thor - Ragnarok: Prelude #1-4
The Avengers - Prelude: Fury's Big Week #1-4
The Avengers - Prelude: Black Widow Strikes #1-3
The Avengers #1-2 (Film Adaptation)
Avengers - Age of Ultron: Prelude - This Scepter'd Isle: Infinite #1
Avengers - Infinity War: Prelude #1-2
Guardians of the Galaxy - Prelude #1-2
Guardians of the Galaxy - Prequel Infinite #1
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - Prelude #1-2
Ant-Man - Prelude #1-2
Ant-Man - Scott Lang: Small Time: Infinite #1
Ant-Man and the Wasp - Prelude #1-2 (Film Adaptation)
Doctor Strange - Prelude #1-2
Doctor Strange - Prelude: The Zealot - Infinite #1
Spider-Man - Homecoming: Prelude #1-2
Black Panther - Prelude #1-2
Jessica Jones #1


The three canon novels are also included:

Avengers - Infinity War: The Heroes' Journey
Avengers - Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest - Volume One: Beginning
Avengers - Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest - Volume Two: ????
Ant-Man and the Wasp: The Heroes' Journey




There are a number of non-canon MCU comic books, either directly influenced by the story, appearance, style, etc of MCU movies or directly spun off from it, however since these are considered non-canon by Marvel they're not included.


The same applies to the various MCU inspired or spin-off video games. These are considered non-canon and not included.


Everything is color-coded based on the characters: Captain America entries are blue, Iron Man entries are red, Thor entries are dark cyan, The Incredible Hulk entries are green, The Avengers entries are in black, Guardians of the Galaxy entries are in purple, Ant-Man entries are in dark red, Dr. Strange entries are in violet, Black Panther entries are in navy, Captain Marvel entries in gold, and all TV episodes (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Agent Carter, Inhumans, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, The Defenders, Runaways) are in gray.

DVD chapters of the films and TV series episodes are bolded and comics are italicized, while the Marvel One-Shots are in regular text with the titles contained in quotation marks.

Anything marked with a ** is placed tentatively until its official release (in cases of the movies, their release on DVD, and in cases of TV episodes, until at least their air date).



Also a very special thanks to everyone for their invaluable assistance, research, corrections, and suggestions. Honestly a fair amount of the work in regards to this timeline are owed to the forum members over on thecomicboard.com who've contributed info and suggestions. Thanks again.


Placement Reasoning

Agent Carter - Season 1:

1.) Agent Carter 1x01 "Now is Not the End" features two conflicting dates shown on newspapers (ironically newspapers read on the same day by Peggy). The first paper's date shows Sunday April 21, 1946 whereas the second paper's date shows June 24, 1946. Neither date can be taken as accurate since dialogue later on specifically places 1x05: "The Iron Ceiling" occurring on April 27, 1946 (and two days prior), meaning both dates have to be ignored, though we can at least use the April date since thats reaffirmed in the final episode occurring on anniversary of VE day (May 8).



Agent Carter - One Shot:

1.) This is placed between Seasons 1 and 2 of the Agent Carter TV show per the intentions of the AC TV showrunners. Further, the plot and character arcs seemingly support that order: There is one bit of discontinuity with that timeline, however. In the one-shot, Carter works for an agent named John Flynn, head of the S.S.R. However, for the entire duration of Season One, Carter works for S.S.R. Chief Roger Dooley, and no mention is made of Flynn. Without inventing some excuse for why Flynn never appears on-screen, it seems difficult to reconcile the two as happening simultaneously. It would have made more sense, however, if the short took place immediately after the TV series Season 1, for several reasons. First, during the one-shot, Flynn refuses to send Carter into the field, but does utilize her for her codebreaking skills. However, in one of the later episodes in Season One, the SSR brings in an outside crypt-analyst to break a Russian code, and Chief Dooley seems taken aback when Carter is able to crack it herself. That implies that she has not (yet) spent any significant time as a code breaker for the SSR. Second, Dooley dies in the season finale, leaving an opening for Flynn to come in and take over. And finally, as Season 1 wraps up, Peggy is unsure if she's going to remain at the SSR, putting her in the perfect position to be recruited by Stark for SHIELD.




Finally, a simplified viewing/reading order for the MCU timeline:

Captain America - The First Avenger: First Vengeance #1-4
Captain America - The First Avenger
Captain America - The First Avenger #1-2 (Adaptation)
"Agent Carter" (One Shot)
Agent Carter 1x01-1x08
Agent Carter 2x01-2x10
Stark Expo 1974
Ant-Man - Prelude #1-2
Captain Marvel**
Jessica Jones - Flash by Facts: Trish - "AKA I Want Your Cray Cray"
Iron Man
Iron Man - I Am Iron Man #1-2 (Adaptation)
Black Panther - Prelude #1-2
Iron Man 2 - Public Identity #1-3
Iron Man 2 - Agents of SHIELD #1
Stark Expo 2010 - CordCo (jankz.com)
Stark Expo 2010 - Fujikawa (jankz.com)
Stark Expo 2010 - Better Living Through Technology
Stark Expo 2010 - AccuTech
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 2 #1-2 (Adaptation)
"A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer..." (One Shot)
Thor
Thor #1-2 (Adaptation)
The Incredible Hulk
Thor - Ragnarok: Prelude #1-2 (Adaptation)
"The Consultant" (One Shot)
The Avengers - Prelude: Black Widow Strikes #1-3
The Avengers - Prelude: Fury's Big Week #1-4
The Avengers
The Avengers #1-2 (Adaptation)
Iron Man 3 - Prelude #1-2
"Item 47" (One Shot)
Iron Man 3
Captain America - Civil War: Prelude #1-2 (Adaptation)
"All Hail the King" (One Shot)
Captain America - The Winter Soldier: Infinite #1
Guardians of the Galaxy - Prelude #1-2
Thor - The Dark World: Prelude #1-2
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 1x01-1x07
Thor - The Dark World
Thor - Ragnarok: Prelude #3-4 (Adaptation)
Guardians of the Galaxy - Prequel Infinite #1
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 1x08-1x16
Captain America - The Winter Soldier
Captain America - Civil War: Prelude #3-4 (Adaptation)
Avengers - Age of Ultron: Prelude - This Scepter'd Isle: Infinite #1
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 1x17-1x22
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x01-2x02
Guardians of the Galaxy
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - Prelude #1-2 (Adaptation)
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x03
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Daredevil 1x01-1x13
Jessica Jones - Good Morning (Promo)
Jessica Jones - Nightcap (Promo)
Jessica Jones - Evening Stroll (Promo)
Jessica Jones - All in a Day's Work (Promo)
Jessica Jones #1
Jessica Jones 1x01-1x13
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x04-2x19
Avengers - Age of Ultron
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x20-2x22
Doctor Strange - Prelude #1-2
WHiH Newsfront Promo - July 2, 2015 (Promo)
WHiH Newsfront Top Stories (Promo)
WHiH Exclusive - 2012 VistaCorp break-in security footage involving cyber-criminal Scott Lang (Promo)
WIRED Insider Interviews Darren Cross, CEO of Pym Technologies (Promo)
WHiH EXCLUSIVE - Scott Lang Interview (Promo)
Ant-Man - Scott Lang: Small Time: Infinite #1
Daredevil 2x01-2x06
Ant-Man
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 3x01-3x08
Daredevil 2x07-2x13
Luke Cage 1x01-1x13
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 3x09-3x11
Doctor Strange - Prelude: The Zealot - Infinite #1
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 3x12-3x19
Avengers Impact - A WHiH Newsfront Special Report (Promo)
WHiH Newsfront - The Cost of Saving the World (Promo)
WHiH Newsfront - The Avengers and the White House (Promo)
WHiH Newsfront Exclusive - President Ellis Discusses the Avengers (Promo)
Captain America - Civil War - Prelude: Infinite #1
WHiH Breaking News - Attack in Lagos (Promo)
Captain America - Civil War
Spider-Man - Homecoming: Prelude #1-2 (Adaptation)
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 3x20-3x22
Black Panther
Spider-Man: Homecoming - NBA Finals Spot #1 - "The Invite"
Spider-Man: Homecoming - NBA Finals Spot #2 - "Peter Arrives"
Spider-Man: Homecoming - NBA Finals Spot #3 - "The Bodega"
Spider-Man: Homecoming - NBA Finals Spot #4 - "The Party"
Iron Fist - New York Bulletin - Joy and Ward Meachum Special Report (Promo)
Iron Fist - Learn Kenjutsu - The Wing Way! (Promo)
Iron Fist 1x01-1x13
Inhumans 1x01-1x08
Spider-Man - Homecoming
Spider-Man: Homecoming - Audi - "Driver's Test"
The Defenders 1x01-1x08
The Punisher 1x01-1x13
Doctor Strange
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 4x01-4x08
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - Slingshot 1x01-1x06
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 4x09-4x12
Jessica Jones 2x01-2x13
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 4x13-4x22
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x01-5x04
Avengers - Infinity War: Prelude #1-2
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x05-5x10
Thor - Ragnarok
Avengers - Infinity War: The Heroes' Journey
Runaways 1x01-1x05
Thanksgiving with Marvel's Runaways (Promo)
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x11-5x13
Runaways 1x06-1x10
Cloak and Dagger 1x01-1x10**
Ant-Man and the Wasp**
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x14-5x18
Avengers - Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest - Volume One: Beginning
Avengers - Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest - Volume Two: ????
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x19-5x22
Avengers - Infinity War**
Luke Cage 2x01-2x13
Luke Cage - "More than an arm. It's a chance to get back to work." (Link)
Daredevil 3x01-3x13**
Avengers - ????**
Spider-Man - Far From Home**
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 6x01-6x13**
Iron Fist 2x01-2x13**
The Punisher 2x01-2x13**
Runaways 2x01-2x10**
New Warriors 1x01-1x10**
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3**
Jessica Jones 3x01-3x13**

I think that some movies and series don't come from the same chronology. To me it's a theory

 

[Pro Bot]

This is the old, original thread. DIrishB sadly passed away some years ago.

There's no theory in the fact that all these shows are part of the same chronology though. I mean, come on. It's ridiculous to deny now. Everyone that didn't know Netflix was canon before knows it now.

And since you must know Netflix is canon, you should know Netflix and Cloak & Dagger reference each other. Misty Knight and Brigid O'Reilly are friends, Brigid is mentioned in Luke Cage. Mike Colter's Luke Cage appears on a newspaper in Cloak & Dagger and there's a long conversation about him.

Runaways has a crossover with Cloak & Dagger. So, the Marvel Studios movies are the same universe as Netflix, Cloak & Dagger and Luke Cage. The Darkhold from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. appears in Runaways.

When I put "->", I mean that it connects.

All TV Shows -> Marvel Studios
Marvel Studios -> Agent Carter
Marvel Studios -> The Defenders
Agent Carter -> Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. -> Agent Carter
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - > The Defenders
The Defenders -> Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
The Defenders -> Cloak & Dagger
Inhumans -> Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Runaways -> Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Runaways -> Cloak & Dagger
Cloak & Dagger -> Agent Carter
Cloak & Dagger -> The Defenders
Cloak & Dagger -> Runaways

All of these TV shows reference each other and the films. They are all the same universe. There's no theory. That's like theorising that The Empire Strikes Back is a different chronology to A New Hope because Luke's face looks a little different.

 

[Jamesctl]

This is the old, original thread. DIrishB sadly passed away some years ago.

There's no theory in the fact that all these shows are part of the same chronology though. I mean, come on. It's ridiculous to deny now. Everyone that didn't know Netflix was canon before knows it now.

And since you must know Netflix is canon, you should know Netflix and Cloak & Dagger reference each other. Misty Knight and Brigid O'Reilly are friends, Brigid is mentioned in Luke Cage. Mike Colter's Luke Cage appears on a newspaper in Cloak & Dagger and there's a long conversation about him.

Runaways has a crossover with Cloak & Dagger. So, the Marvel Studios movies are the same universe as Netflix, Cloak & Dagger and Luke Cage. The Darkhold from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. appears in Runaways.

When I put "->", I mean that it connects.

All TV Shows -> Marvel Studios
Marvel Studios -> Agent Carter
Marvel Studios -> The Defenders
Agent Carter -> Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. -> Agent Carter
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - > The Defenders
The Defenders -> Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
The Defenders -> Cloak & Dagger
Inhumans -> Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Runaways -> Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Runaways -> Cloak & Dagger
Cloak & Dagger -> Agent Carter
Cloak & Dagger -> The Defenders
Cloak & Dagger -> Runaways

All of these TV shows reference each other and the films. They are all the same universe. There's no theory. That's like theorising that The Empire Strikes Back is a different chronology to A New Hope because Luke's face looks a little different.

He Who Remains explains to us that one day a variant of Kang discovered that there were universes that coexisted parallel to each other. Everything was fine for a while until the multiversal war arrived. He specifies << some variants seeking to conquer other universes, causing a huge war. The variants trying to preserve their universes by destroying the others, until almost everything disappears >>. This is the concept of incursions. The Kangs playing with the multiverse, they caused incursions leading to the destruction of the multiverse.

I am subscribed to a youtuber who loves the Marvel universe. He discovered a lot of things about the Loki series and he explained how the multiverse works. He thinks there are two multiverses, with two different timelines. Here are the sites where he found all this information. Kevin bukkart

Creator Michael Waldron Answers Our ‘Loki’ and ‘Heels’ Questions

We finally understand how variants really work!

screencrush.com

Avengers 5 Writer Seemingly Confirms Kang 'Infinity Stones' Theory

Jeff Loveness, the writer for Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, recently confirmed the connection between Kang and some of the artifacts in the MCU.

thedirect.com

The Many-Worlds Theory, Explained

A mind-bending, jargon-free account of the popular interpretation of quantum mechanics.

thereader.mitpress.mit.edu

Famous Experiment Dooms Alternative to Quantum Weirdness | Quanta Magazine

Oil droplets guided by “pilot waves” have failed to reproduce the results of the quantum double-slit experiment, crushing a century-old dream that there exists a single, concrete reality.

www.quantamagazine.org

 

[selfishmisery]

He Who Remains explains to us that one day a variant of Kang discovered that there were universes that coexisted parallel to each other. Everything was fine for a while until the multiversal war arrived. He specifies << some variants seeking to conquer other universes, causing a huge war. The variants trying to preserve their universes by destroying the others, until almost everything disappears >>. This is the concept of incursions. The Kangs playing with the multiverse, they caused incursions leading to the destruction of the multiverse.

I am subscribed to a youtuber who loves the Marvel universe. He discovered a lot of things about the Loki series and he explained how the multiverse works. He thinks there are two multiverses, with two different timelines. Here are the sites where he found all this information. Kevin bukkart

Creator Michael Waldron Answers Our ‘Loki’ and ‘Heels’ Questions

We finally understand how variants really work!

screencrush.com

Avengers 5 Writer Seemingly Confirms Kang 'Infinity Stones' Theory

Jeff Loveness, the writer for Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, recently confirmed the connection between Kang and some of the artifacts in the MCU.

thedirect.com

The Many-Worlds Theory, Explained

A mind-bending, jargon-free account of the popular interpretation of quantum mechanics.

thereader.mitpress.mit.edu

Famous Experiment Dooms Alternative to Quantum Weirdness | Quanta Magazine

Oil droplets guided by “pilot waves” have failed to reproduce the results of the quantum double-slit experiment, crushing a century-old dream that there exists a single, concrete reality.

www.quantamagazine.org

Essentially this is the origin of Kang since he first appeared in Marvel Comics.

He Who Remains of Earth-199999 essentially won that offscreen war and split that universe off into its own nexus or cluster. That's been stated in the show, albeit in loose, vague terms.

So yes, technically there is "more than one multiverse" but only artificially because HWR clipped one timeline from THE one multiverse somehow; and now that's grown into it's own cosmic tree of timelines adjacent to it.