Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

[DIrishB]

You also have to factor in Foggy applying for the language course in Fall 2010 when they first meet, as dated on the application he's filling in on the laptop. They either meet at the end of 2009 or the start of 2010.

Ah, I hadn't noticed that yet. I started Episode 10 but stopped about 5 minutes in because I was exhausted (I saw the very beginning of the college scene and stopped). If thats the case and that scene you describe does have a Fall, 2010 date, that's obviously when its set. The 2009 sticker would just have been a year or so old at that point. I'm diving back into the episodes now so I'll have it all laid out for tonight.

Just checked, you're absolutely right. At the 03:02 mark you can clearly see the Course schedule and classes that Foggy is trying to sign up for are for Fall, 2010. That would most likely place the scene in August, possibly September (but likely August).

Ah I see, 2009 it is then Colleges/ Universities in the UK are smaller, you get to know everyone doing the same course as you

As for the Matt/Foggy timeline, I figure that its at least their sophomore or even junior year, since Foggy is already signing up for intro legal courses (pretty much exclusively except for a language course--Punjabi), and there aren't any general education courses (that are usually requirements in some form for freshman and sophomore students before getting into courses specific to their degree field, especially to the exclusive degree Foggy's course schedule showed.

So, Fall of 2010 I figure Matt and Foggy are both starting their junior year of college (Matt would be around 25 or 26 years old at that point, so apparently he started college late, by like 4 years), pursuing their degrees in law and become roommates (as shown in the flashback scene). At some point between 2010 and 2014 both Matt and Foggy interned at that law firm, likely while still going to school.

They likely get their bachelors degree or whatever in some aspect of law in mid-2012. Its possible that Matt and Foggy began interning at this point while studying for the bar, and interned/worked at that law firm for two years until mid-2014.

The time stamp for s01 e08 is 32.34, it is a flashback, but one that also makes sense for his scenes later on with his brother

I'm not sure why I didn't include the flashback. I must've only watched that one on TV and not online (where I can analyze time stamps). Must have forgotten to rewatch and break that one up.

I placed that scene in 1993, since Grant is around 15 in 1998 when Garrett recruits him, and he seems around 10 years old in the well flashback. Its only a guess but its a safe one to make.

 

[Spoon_Wielder]

I keep looking at newspapers trying to find a definitive date in Daredevil. But it looks like the creators are purposely leaving them out. It's kind of a letdown.

Also another fun Easter Egg; Did anyone else notice the newspaper in Ben Urich's office on the Hulk and Abomination's fight in Harlem?

 

[DIrishB]

Love the nod towards Elektra in episode 10, in the scene with Matt and Foggy (in college) where they're discussing Foggy taking Punjabi to chase a girl, and Foggy mentions that Matt took Spanish to get closer to "that Greek chick".

"Whatever happened to her? She was smoking..."

"Ah, man... it didn't work out."

Heh.

 

[DIrishB]

Episode 11 of Daredevil reveals Fisk was 12 years old when he killed his father with the hammer, and that it happened "40 something years ago", placing it likely in the early 1970's, and making Fisk in his early 50's at the time of the present day portions of the show.

 

[Zpdedoda]

I'm not sure why I didn't include the flashback. I must've only watched that one on TV and not online (where I can analyze time stamps). Must have forgotten to rewatch and break that one up.

I placed that scene in 1993, since Grant is around 15 in 1998 when Garrett recruits him, and he seems around 10 years old in the well flashback. Its only a guess but its a safe one to make.

I'd say it could be more what Ward is experiencing in his head due to holding the staff rather than a proper flashback, there are a few teasers through the episode IIRC before that full scene is shown

 

[DIrishB]

Daredevil entries are completely updated. There are a few guesses in terms of the placement of Fisk's childhood flashback scenes, though that was somewhat nailed down to around 40 years before, so early 1970's most likely. Everything else is pretty cut and dry regarding the flashbacks (based on common sense and dialogue).

The specific present day dates are all drawn from the date shown on the cop's cell phone Claire is looking at (Aug 22). Everything is based on dialogue regarding time passing ("X happened 2 days ago"), day/night cycles, wound healing time, and a smidge of conjecture (like placing the final episode 2-3 days after the previous one, based on most funerals occurring within 3 days on average after death... though some may take up to a week, depending on religion--apparently Urich was also Catholic--and autopsy results--though Urich's cause of death was very obvious so it's likely there were no delays there).

I'd say it could be more what Ward is experiencing in his head due to holding the staff rather than a proper flashback, there are a few teasers through the episode IIRC before that full scene is shown

Yeah, that's possible. I have to re-watch both Seasons 1 and 2 to be sure, especially the season 2 episode where he confronts his older brother and the truth about that incident is alluded to/revealed.

 

[Bob_A_Mickelson]

I think it's best to not specify Ward's scene as "1993" it really could come within several years of that. How old was the actor playing ward? That's probably a good baseline. But regardless 1993 or whatever year we end up using should have an * since it's only a guess.

 

[Hurricanebtvs]

I thought about cutting up the Ward flashback from episode 8, but there's so much work to do with audio over lapping that there's no point trying to splicey splice it. And given that it's barely a minute long, it's better suited in the present day. But that's just from someone editing this stuff.

 

[DIrishB]

I thought about cutting up the Ward flashback from episode 8, but there's so much work to do with audio over lapping that there's no point trying to splicey splice it. And given that it's barely a minute long, it's better suited in the present day. But that's just from someone editing this stuff.

That's why I present the quick, half second or second long cuts as part of the present day, just presented as Ward's memories happening in the present day. But the longer scene, which clarifies the quick cuts, is almost a minute, and doesn't revert to the present day until the well scene is completed. So, it's best to place it in the early to mid 1990's since that's the approach taken with just about every other flashback.

 

[wyokid]

So what kind of placement sre we looking at for those AoS episodes? Like, what should I keep my eyes open for when I rewatch them for Age of Ultron?

 

[Bob_A_Mickelson]

I think these are useful indicators that we could possibly see in Age of Ultron:
On screen dates,
references to Winter Soldier (fall of shield)
How long Tony has been financing the team? (Can't be before Winter Soldier)
Reference to how long ago the Battle of New York was.
How long as Strucker has had Loki's staff

 

[crafty100]

If AoS does any form of crossover, that will give the date of Age of Ultron unless they give specific dates that are well off what has been worked out on here, but I find that unlikely

 

[DIrishB]

If AoS does any form of crossover, that will give the date of Age of Ultron unless they give specific dates that are well off what has been worked out on here, but I find that unlikely

Not necessarily, since the AoS episodes rarely ever feature onscreen dates themselves. It'll verify that the end of AoS Season 2 and A-AoU overlap chronologically, but not necessarily tell us when that's supposed to be.

 

[Zpdedoda]

Not necessarily, since the AoS episodes rarely ever feature onscreen dates themselves. It'll verify that the end of AoS Season 2 and A-AoU overlap chronologically, but not necessarily tell us when that's supposed to be.

Or worse have the October/March problem that we got given with the crossover episodes with Winter Soldier

 

[Bob_A_Mickelson]

At least AOS retconned that problem at the beginning of Season 2

 

[wyokid]

How sure are we Daredevil is happening after TWS? I find it odd that no one is mentioning a terrorist organization infiltrating the largest spy organization ever.

 

[DIrishB]

Or worse have the October/March problem that we got given with the crossover episodes with Winter Soldier

Yup. Though admittedly the March background calendar on AoS is pretty hard to notice, but it still was an obvious oversight on behalf of the production department.

How sure are we Daredevil is happening after TWS? I find it odd that no one is mentioning a terrorist organization infiltrating the largest spy organization ever.

Very sure. You're overlooking the fact Daredevil firmly happens at least 2 years after the Avengers (therefore sometime at least after May, 2014). CA-TWS firmly places itself in October, 2013, about a year and a half after Avengers.

Also, notice no one mentions the events of Iron Man 3, the major attack in London that occurred in Thor-TDW, etc. Its because its not relevant to the story being told in the Daredevil show. SHIELD and Hydra have zero to do with Daredevil's first season, so what'd be the point of name dropping them? We already know Daredevil takes place in the MCU, they don't need to add in odd and out of place references just to reiterate the point. They already did that with the relevant plot point of the city rebuilding after the events of Avengers, and Urich's reports on some of the notable happenings in that universe over the past several years. Why would somebody bring up a spy organization infiltrated by a terrorist organization that happened almost a year before in the MCU's timeline? How would that have organically grown out of the plot of Daredevil?

Short answer: it wouldn't.

So I'm glad they didn't try to force too many references in. I think they learned that lesson with Iron Man 2.

 

[fuzzyfoot]

Slightly OT - Is anyone more excited for films other than Ultron besides me? Ant-Man and Civil War? If Ant-Man does well, with Ultron and Civil War being mega popular right now, that'll be 5 super hits in a row from Marvel.

 

[Bob_A_Mickelson]

Slightly OT - Is anyone more excited for films other than Ultron besides me? Ant-Man and Civil War? If Ant-Man does well, with Ultron and Civil War being mega popular right now, that'll be 5 super hits in a row from Marvel.

Nope.

 

[wyokid]

Yup. Though admittedly the March background calendar on AoS is pretty hard to notice, but it still was an obvious oversight on behalf of the production department.



Very sure. You're overlooking the fact Daredevil firmly happens at least 2 years after the Avengers (therefore sometime at least after May, 2014). CA-TWS firmly places itself in October, 2013, about a year and a half after Avengers.

Also, notice no one mentions the events of Iron Man 3, the major attack in London that occurred in Thor-TDW, etc. Its because its not relevant to the story being told in the Daredevil show. SHIELD and Hydra have zero to do with Daredevil's first season, so what'd be the point of name dropping them? We already know Daredevil takes place in the MCU, they don't need to add in odd and out of place references just to reiterate the point. They already did that with the relevant plot point of the city rebuilding after the events of Avengers, and Urich's reports on some of the notable happenings in that universe over the past several years. Why would somebody bring up a spy organization infiltrated by a terrorist organization that happened almost a year before in the MCU's timeline? How would that have organically grown out of the plot of Daredevil?

Short answer: it wouldn't.

So I'm glad they didn't try to force too many references in. I think they learned that lesson with Iron Man 2.

I guess it just feels too out of place and disconnected from everything else. Probably won't once there's more shows. Agents of SHIELD sort of had that problem until season one's back episodes.

Slightly OT - Is anyone more excited for films other than Ultron besides me? Ant-Man and Civil War? If Ant-Man does well, with Ultron and Civil War being mega popular right now, that'll be 5 super hits in a row from Marvel.

Yeah, I'm not really looking forward to Ultron. The clips that were released aren't helping either. I'm looking forward to Black Panther and Spider-Man the most. I would be looking forward to Captain Marvel but I'm really struggling to come up with a plot since we have no idea if they'll have her start as Captain Marvel or Ms. Marvel. Will there even be a Mar-Vell in this universe?