Hey guys!I Just came by to compliment your work putting these episode of the Season 2 of AoS and of Daredevil. And to ask question, in the episode s02 e15 of AoS González says Coulson was not the same man who was 2 years ago , well it should be talking about his death before the Battle of New York in 2012, so this places the entire Season 2 in 2014 , am I right?
Yup. I've kept that in mind. I basically view it as him estimating. It's also entirely possible that even though Coulson received the Kree blood, he may not have shown any differences in behavior for awhile afterward (sort of fixing that quote by Gonzalez).
We know he likely received the Kree blood transfusion around May, 2012, just after dying. He was presumed dead for months (keep that in mind--only Fury knew he was alive, and likely later Maria Hill did). It wasn't until late 2013, September to be exact, when he learn Coulson is indeed alive, and has been for some time.
It's likely that Coulson showed no outward signs to give Gonzalez or anyone else who knew him or about the Kree blood transfusion any reason to worry or think him different. So he had the blood in his system for almost a year and a half before he began experiencing symptoms (and he's a different case than the Inhumans).
Therefore, the two years ago Gonzalez refers to could be around the time a few months before Agents of SHIELD starts (Gonzalez was a high enough level he'd probably have been aware of Coulson being alive after Battle of NY).
That's a good point. Avengers is may 2012. Season 2 definitely starts in spring of 2014. But 2 years is a round figure. So it's possible that Coulson died for example 2 years and 8 months ago. I don't think it a stretch that someone may still refer to that as 2 years ago. But your point does strengthen the 2014 theory which I believe most evidence points to at the moment. Age of Ultron could change all that of course.
See above.
But let's not just assume that age of Ultron takes place in May of 2015 because it was released then. To date only iron man, avengers, Thor 2 and guardians actually take place on or near their release date year and month. So thus far 60% of the movies don't take place in real time. We've also had 3 MCU TV shows. 2 don't take place on or near the release date. Shield began in sinc with real time but quickly crunched 9 months of our time into 2 months of MCU time.
You forgot the first Thor. That was released in early May, 2011, and it takes place across May, 2011 for the most part.
Also, it's unfair to count Cap-TFA and Agent Carter in that category since they're period pieces. Of course, Incredible Hulk presumably originally occurred in 2008, until it was retconned by Fury's Big Week.
Agents of SHIELD starting using real time and then condensing it's season over a couple months doesn't disqualify it completely. It still began at the same time the show premiered.
So technically the 60% majority (arguably more or less considering the factors I listed) works in the theory's favor than against.
So not being in sinc with real time is the norm for the MCU. Thus if the whole season 2 of shield takes place in 2014 it shouldn't shock anyone.
All that said, I don't assume anything once the film's are released. I'll use every bit of info the shows and films provide to make determinations. If there is dialogue within the film that helps place it, easily done. If not, and as long as it doesn't interfere with dates or info about time passing in other films or shows set in the MCU. It's also important to remember that often, shows or films (Daredevil and CA-TWS) ised dates from when the production was occurring. Daredevil used August, 2014, which was during filming, and CA-TWS used the October, 2013 date (which was during pick-up shooting/post-production).
This shows us they've used both release date and production dates for internal dates.
It's also been said they intentionally attempt to keep the films current, meaning set in present day. Sometimes that may be off by 6 months or so, but I have a feeling, with AoU being THE tent pole release, and shaping the MCU for presumably years to come, there's a lot of sense in placing it in present day. Especially since the placement of AoU will directly affect the placements of the films that follow it, including Cap-CW (are we to begin assuming that too will need to be moved backward in time to around 2014 or 2015--a full year or two before its release date?).
I find it hard to believe ANYONE at Marvel Studios is intentionally setting the films apart from their release dates (that's done by production and special effects, without direct involvement of Feige or Corona Pilgrim).
I'm not opposed to the idea, but until we have hard evidence from the film itself, which overrides AoS, as the films come first, is kind of jumping the gun. Especially since we have no idea if AoS will directly tie into AoU or how it will. That too can lead to avenues of making it all make sense.
