DIrishB
The Timeline Guy
Did you like Iron Fist? You can respond in the appropriate thread if you don't want to here.
Not really. There were some decent elements. And admittedly, I haven't read much Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Heroes for Hire, etc, and even my Daredevil reading is limited, least of all Iron Fist, so am not familiar with the character's origin or character/personality. I will say the actor who portrayed him lacked any real charisma, and certainly not enough to carry the series in the role as lead. It didn't work. He was uninteresting, and moreso unengaging, and unlikable due to how it was written. It was almost impossible to empathize or care about the character in any way. The dialogue was also overly expository. The show was just uninteresting, overall, poorly written and horribly paced. It worries me that same guy who did this is in charge of Inhumans.
And worst of all, especially in comparison to what was done on Daredevil, the fight scenes were atrociously disappointing. The fight choreography and direction almost seem lazy in comparison, which is a shame. Hopefully they'll rectify some of these problems in Defenders for the Danny Rand character.
Speaking of Defenders, I just don't see how Finn Jones and Mike Colter can achieve the Luke Cage/Iron Fist friendship/partnership onscreen with any believability, largely due to lack of faith in Finn.
I don't know. Maybe it'll pleasantly surprise me and it'll work.
There's a July 11th date on a cellphone in the boardroom scene in Episode 7. It's on the unlock screen of a cellphone, and seems more reliable than the date the New York Bulletin article was screenshotted.
Can you let me know time code for that?
It also wouldn't hurt to stretch out the series to give more time for Danny to be on magazine covers, and become more well known across the city.
The series stretches overall around 3 weeks for the bulk of it, slightly longer with epilogue scenes. His consoling and admission he'd help the lady and others who'd gotten sick from the Rand plant made him a rare diamond in the rough of corporate head honchos, sort of thing that makes a person an automatic folk hero, in a sense. That's how I took it, and it was certainly portrayed that way in those headlines and magazine covers after that cell phone video went public. Factor in Ward's admission Danny wanted to keep the pharmaceutical at cost so as to make it widely affordable and he was like the Bizarro Zone version of Donald Trump: honest, not greedy, putting others best interests before corporate greed, etc.
Additionally it seems like Defenders will be picking up very shortly after Iron Fist, as Colleen Wing seems to be wearing the same clothes in the finale:
As in this promo image for The Defenders:
And Defenders is clearly set during the winter:
So stretching out the timeline for Iron Fist will likely save us some headaches this summer.
Could be. Only problem is it makes it hard to stretch it that long since the episodes follow one immediately after the other, with Day/Night cycle within those episodes usually last 1-3 days each depending on the episode. There are no real break points.
That said, the July 11 date is more valid than the June 8 should I be forced to choose and not find a suitable compromise. I'll re-examine the episodes and see if something can't be stretched out more, though I'm 99% sure it can't as I paid close attention to dialogue mentioning "yesterday", "last night", etc, of which there was a surprising amount of compared to the other shows. The day night cycle, and action/reaction aspect of plot show a continuous sequential plot without any gaps I can find.
Further, unless Defenders does indeed show itself picking up soon after or refer to events of Iron Fist as recent, it can easily be placed several months later without any problems. It does seem from snow there that it occurs in winter (end of 2016/beginning of 2017), so that would be around 5-7 months after Iron Fist ends--more or less once I factor in for July 11 date).
I've learned the shows themselves often portray a timeline or span between shows much different than behind the scenes interviews with actors or crew tend to portray it as. We'll have to wait and see, but I imagine Defenders will run from late fall to early winter, 2016 setting. Maybe just set entirely in early 2017 (winter, or winter into spring). Overall the shows tend to have timelines that more or less align with the filming of the show itself in some regard. Not rigidly, but it's a somewhat safe rule of thumb to go by.
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