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Did you like Iron Fist? You can respond in the appropriate thread if you don't want to here.

Not really. There were some decent elements. And admittedly, I haven't read much Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Heroes for Hire, etc, and even my Daredevil reading is limited, least of all Iron Fist, so am not familiar with the character's origin or character/personality. I will say the actor who portrayed him lacked any real charisma, and certainly not enough to carry the series in the role as lead. It didn't work. He was uninteresting, and moreso unengaging, and unlikable due to how it was written. It was almost impossible to empathize or care about the character in any way. The dialogue was also overly expository. The show was just uninteresting, overall, poorly written and horribly paced. It worries me that same guy who did this is in charge of Inhumans.

And worst of all, especially in comparison to what was done on Daredevil, the fight scenes were atrociously disappointing. The fight choreography and direction almost seem lazy in comparison, which is a shame. Hopefully they'll rectify some of these problems in Defenders for the Danny Rand character.

Speaking of Defenders, I just don't see how Finn Jones and Mike Colter can achieve the Luke Cage/Iron Fist friendship/partnership onscreen with any believability, largely due to lack of faith in Finn.

I don't know. Maybe it'll pleasantly surprise me and it'll work.

There's a July 11th date on a cellphone in the boardroom scene in Episode 7. It's on the unlock screen of a cellphone, and seems more reliable than the date the New York Bulletin article was screenshotted.

Can you let me know time code for that?

It also wouldn't hurt to stretch out the series to give more time for Danny to be on magazine covers, and become more well known across the city.

The series stretches overall around 3 weeks for the bulk of it, slightly longer with epilogue scenes. His consoling and admission he'd help the lady and others who'd gotten sick from the Rand plant made him a rare diamond in the rough of corporate head honchos, sort of thing that makes a person an automatic folk hero, in a sense. That's how I took it, and it was certainly portrayed that way in those headlines and magazine covers after that cell phone video went public. Factor in Ward's admission Danny wanted to keep the pharmaceutical at cost so as to make it widely affordable and he was like the Bizarro Zone version of Donald Trump: honest, not greedy, putting others best interests before corporate greed, etc. ;)

Additionally it seems like Defenders will be picking up very shortly after Iron Fist, as Colleen Wing seems to be wearing the same clothes in the finale:
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As in this promo image for The Defenders:
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And Defenders is clearly set during the winter:
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So stretching out the timeline for Iron Fist will likely save us some headaches this summer.

Could be. Only problem is it makes it hard to stretch it that long since the episodes follow one immediately after the other, with Day/Night cycle within those episodes usually last 1-3 days each depending on the episode. There are no real break points.

That said, the July 11 date is more valid than the June 8 should I be forced to choose and not find a suitable compromise. I'll re-examine the episodes and see if something can't be stretched out more, though I'm 99% sure it can't as I paid close attention to dialogue mentioning "yesterday", "last night", etc, of which there was a surprising amount of compared to the other shows. The day night cycle, and action/reaction aspect of plot show a continuous sequential plot without any gaps I can find.

Further, unless Defenders does indeed show itself picking up soon after or refer to events of Iron Fist as recent, it can easily be placed several months later without any problems. It does seem from snow there that it occurs in winter (end of 2016/beginning of 2017), so that would be around 5-7 months after Iron Fist ends--more or less once I factor in for July 11 date).

I've learned the shows themselves often portray a timeline or span between shows much different than behind the scenes interviews with actors or crew tend to portray it as. We'll have to wait and see, but I imagine Defenders will run from late fall to early winter, 2016 setting. Maybe just set entirely in early 2017 (winter, or winter into spring). Overall the shows tend to have timelines that more or less align with the filming of the show itself in some regard. Not rigidly, but it's a somewhat safe rule of thumb to go by.
 
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It starts off like that, which is why I must have missed it out previously. But with fanangaling, it can be worked out like this:



Jessica Jones 1x08: "AKA WWJD?" (0:00:00 - 0:01:46)
Jessica Jones 1x08: "AKA WWJD?" (0:38:52 - 0:39:14)
Jessica Jones 1x11: "AKA I've Got the Blues" (0:00:00 - 0:03:12)
Jessica Jones 1x07: "AKA Top Shelf Perverts" (0:51:12 - 0:51:34) (Voice-Over Only)
Jessica Jones 1x07: "AKA Top Shelf Perverts" (0:51:35 - 0:51:55)

Jessica Jones 1x11: "AKA I've Got the Blues" (0:20:55 - 0:23:53)
Jessica Jones 1x11: "AKA I've Got the Blues" (0:40:21 - 0:41:26)

Interesting. I'll look into that.

Good work on Iron Fist :D

Thanks. Looks like I already have some adjustments to make.
 
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Question regarding AOS season 1 and The Winter Soldier crossover. I am working on a chronological viewing order and have used this site for placements because it's excellent and very accurate. Kudos to everyone working on this. My question is what order the crossover episodes should be watched. I want to be as chronologically accurate as possible. Currently, this is how I have it, please let me know if I should change it to be more accurate:

1.14: Uprising – "T.A.H.I.T.I."
1.15: Uprising – "Yes Men"
1.16: Uprising – "End Of The Beginning"
1.17: Uprising – "Turn, Turn, Turn"
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
1.18: "Providence"
 
Question regarding AOS season 1 and The Winter Soldier crossover. I am working on a chronological viewing order and have used this site for placements because it's excellent and very accurate. Kudos to everyone working on this. My question is what order the crossover episodes should be watched. I want to be as chronologically accurate as possible. Currently, this is how I have it, please let me know if I should change it to be more accurate:

1.14: Uprising – "T.A.H.I.T.I."
1.15: Uprising – "Yes Men"
1.16: Uprising – "End Of The Beginning"
1.17: Uprising – "Turn, Turn, Turn"
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
1.18: "Providence"

Winter Soldier mostly takes place between episode 16 (End of the Beginning) and Episode 17 (Turn Turn Turn). There are some really cool crossover elements, especially with Agent Sitwell. If you want to be REALLY precise, you can look at the first page of the thread for the chronological breakdown. Some people have made torrents that splice things together based on this timeline. Otherwise, just watch it in that order.
 
Winter Soldier mostly takes place between episode 16 (End of the Beginning) and Episode 17 (Turn Turn Turn). There are some really cool crossover elements, especially with Agent Sitwell. If you want to be REALLY precise, you can look at the first page of the thread for the chronological breakdown. Some people have made torrents that splice things together based on this timeline. Otherwise, just watch it in that order.

Doesn't 1.17 take place directly after 1.16 though? Wouldn't placing the film between those two eps break up the smooth transition?
 
It starts off like that, which is why I must have missed it out previously. But with fanangaling, it can be worked out like this:



Jessica Jones 1x08: "AKA WWJD?" (0:00:00 - 0:01:46)
Jessica Jones 1x08: "AKA WWJD?" (0:38:52 - 0:39:14)
Jessica Jones 1x11: "AKA I've Got the Blues" (0:00:00 - 0:03:12)
Jessica Jones 1x07: "AKA Top Shelf Perverts" (0:51:12 - 0:51:34) (Voice-Over Only)
Jessica Jones 1x07: "AKA Top Shelf Perverts" (0:51:35 - 0:51:55)

Jessica Jones 1x11: "AKA I've Got the Blues" (0:20:55 - 0:23:53)
Jessica Jones 1x11: "AKA I've Got the Blues" (0:40:21 - 0:41:26)

Good work on Iron Fist :D

So looked back at this and yeah, gonna leave it as it is. Its definitely portrayed as a memory, since the modern day Jessica is standing in background witnessing most of the scene. I could cut it as you suggest, but it ends up picking up midway through the scene and loses all context/meaning doing so. Think its best just to keep it as a memory being experienced in modern day setting.

It's about 41 minutes into episode 7. Right where Danny tells the board he's talked to Karen Page at the Bulletin.

Fixed for that. We'll just assume the homeless guy's cell phone date was wrong in first episode, which is a fair assumption since the time on the phone showed it was around 9:30 AM despite it clearly being night time.

But then you lose that Sitwell element. This one makes my head hurt...

If you watch them in entirety, yes, hence why I break up by time coding for such instances. ;)
 
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Thanks for sharing those! I wouldn't have discovered them otherwise. Ward's LinkedIn page has some interesting backstory/timeline information; he became CEO in December 2004, after his father died. His stint at Domani Architecture seems to be new. Weirdly, it's also the name of what seems to be an actual firm. I don't think it's all part of an ARG, but you never know these days. ;)

It's entirely possible it was filmed sometime after Avengers but before he got his new costume. This article does a good job breaking it down.

Oh yeah, I can see where it fits in; the cheesy throwback VHSness is just amusing since it seems doubtful that anything made in 2012 or thereabouts would look like that. :D

TC
 
I get you, but my viewing order requires watching full episodes and movies. Do you think the way I currently have it is the best option for that scenario?
 
Sure. As long as you know what Winter Soldier is about going into it. The episodes reference events of the movie, so there may be spoilers.

I stil prefer to watch the movie between the episodes b/c they were released in that order.
 
Not really. There were some decent elements. And admittedly, I haven't read much Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Heroes for Hire, etc, and even my Daredevil reading is limited, least of all Iron Fist, so am not familiar with the character's origin or character/personality. I will say the actor who portrayed him lacked any real charisma, and certainly not enough to carry the series in the role as lead. It didn't work. He was uninteresting, and moreso unengaging, and unlikable due to how it was written. It was almost impossible to empathize or care about the character in any way. The dialogue was also overly expository. The show was just uninteresting, overall, poorly written and horribly paced. It worries me that same guy who did this is in charge of Inhumans.

And worst of all, especially in comparison to what was done on Daredevil, the fight scenes were atrociously disappointing. The fight choreography and direction almost seem lazy in comparison, which is a shame. Hopefully they'll rectify some of these problems in Defenders for the Danny Rand character.

I mostly agree. It was disappointing on just about every level.
 

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