Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

Question:

I know DD S2 ends on Christmas but is there anyway evidence for it occurring over a longer period of time? Season starts with the 5th conserve day of 100F temperatures. To me this implies summer. Any other specific time examples? Are there newspapers or cell phone dates or something else? Or is Nov 30th simply counting the days on screen backwards from Christmas.

Speaking to understand. Thanks all.
 
Zpdedoda said:
Do we? Where is the date presented other than simplying saying "that was when it was released?"
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There is no such date. AG is utilizing release dates for his personal timeline, which I've pointed out in a variety of ways is an illogical approach specifically when the films or episodes show hard dates that don't conflict with anything else. It's his choice, variety being the spice of life and all that, I just wish he'd realize this timeline doesn't and never will utilize the release date approach because, as said, it often conflicts with hard dates shown in the films or episodes. Hard dates shown within the films, whether on props or video screens or whatever aren't just randomly chosen, they're chosen specifically to reflect the time the films/shows are presently set in.

wyokid said:
I wonder if, because it takes place far away, if time works differently. That or Time Gem shenanigans are coming.
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Relativity could play in. Guess we'll see. For the time being this timeline assumes 2 Earth months.

Bob_A_Mickelson said:
Question:

I know DD S2 ends on Christmas but is there anyway evidence for it occurring over a longer period of time? Season starts with the 5th conserve day of 100F temperatures. To me this implies summer. Any other specific time examples? Are there newspapers or cell phone dates or something else? Or is Nov 30th simply counting the days on screen backwards from Christmas.

Speaking to understand. Thanks all.
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Unfortunately no. It's evident they made a continuity mistake with DD Season 2. The second season covers only about a month. There is only one break (most episodes follow immediately after the previous one), and that break is only a few days based on dialogue (when Frank is arrested). There aren't any specific dates in DD Season 2 like first season had, so I just counted backwards from the Christmas date. I do agree there should be a break, given the heat wave early on in season.

I'm going to do a rewatch and possibly just ignore the dialogue to place it earlier on, maybe August/September (end of summer to position it as close to December as possible but still viable spot for a heat wave).
 
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DIrishB said:
Unfortunately no. It's evident they made a continuity mistake with DD Season 2. The second season covers only about a month. There is only one break (most episodes follow immediately after the previous one), and that break is only a few days based on dialogue (when Frank is arrested). There aren't any specific dates in DD Season 2 like first season had, so I just counted backwards from the Christmas date. I do agree there should be a break, given the heat wave early on in season.

I'm going to do a rewatch and possibly just ignore the dialogue to place it earlier on, maybe August/September (end of summer to position it as close to December as possible but still viable spot for a heat wave).
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I think that you are wrong with DD2 Timeline placement, leave it in the way they are I do not use prop like weather in the Timeline of the MCU because this is the Earth 199999. It is too different to our earth... Also you also used real time for Avengers dates, so you should review your dates. And I do not think that LC will happen in real time. You are protecting your work, that is good but I don't think that you are doing everything well.
 
In Earth 199999 there could be a day with heat wave in November, very weird for that time of the year... Is Earth 199999 other is that in episode 4 of Agent Carter Season 1 The Blitzkrieg Button they talked about the Nuremberg trials, which resulted in the hanging of many Nazi war criminals, that happened in October 1946 so this should happening in October but the episode 8 Valediction establishes that this episode occurs in May. Laso in that episode tey mention that Wilhelm Keitel is already dead but he died in October 1946. THis is Earth 199999 it is not necessary to hppane the same thing like our world... So if you are using our world props to define where the episodes should take place you are doing wrong. And do not tell me that is a history mistake
 
Updated for Doctor Strange - Infinite comic prequel. As usual with the Infinite Prelude comics, its tentative until the TPB comes out due to the digital comic approach the Infinite versions take.

It begins an indeterminate number of years ago and focuses on Kaecilius and how he went bad. It then picks up closer to present day, with him training under Ancient One (presumably after events of the the print Prelude issues). He struggles with not learning what he came to the Ancient One to learn, and is haunted by flashbacks of his dead wife and unborn son (who despite never being born is shown as an 8-10 year old kid in the one vision he has, presumably setting the first portion in the past 8-10 years before, I placed it in 2008). It leads directly into Doctor Strange from there.



A13G10 said:
I think that you are wrong with DD2 Timeline placement, leave it in the way they are I do not use prop like weather in the Timeline of the MCU because this is the Earth 199999. It is too different to our earth... Also you also used real time for Avengers dates, so you should review your dates. And I do not think that LC will happen in real time. You are protecting your work, that is good but I don't think that you are doing everything well.
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Yeah, and I think the release date approach you utilize is wrong. Guess we can just agree to disagree.

I used real time for Avengers not based on release date, but based on date of May, 2012 shown in the museum scene banners. They're not visible in the final cut of the film but clearly showed a May, 2012 date, thus setting the first Avengers film in real time based on release date. Again, I'm utilizing actual props with intentional dates because those are explicitly meant to convey the dates/time periods the films are set in. They're not just randomly assigning dates to props, they make sure to line up the dates with the intended timeline setting.

I think its clear you've done very limited research on the various entries, based on your posts. Thats a problem when you're claiming to know the details of the MCU timeline. The release date approach you're utilizing is simply lazy, and takes very little to no effort. My approach of carefully examining the films/episodes for dates on props, dialogue, etc takes a lot more work and is more accurate as a result.

A13G10 said:
In Earth 199999 there could be a day with heat wave in November, very weird for that time of the year... Is Earth 199999 other is that in episode 4 of Agent Carter Season 1 The Blitzkrieg Button they talked about the Nuremberg trials, which resulted in the hanging of many Nazi war criminals, that happened in October 1946 so this should happening in October but the episode 8 Valediction establishes that this episode occurs in May. Laso in that episode tey mention that Wilhelm Keitel is already dead but he died in October 1946. THis is Earth 199999 it is not necessary to hppane the same thing like our world... So if you are using our world props to define where the episodes should take place you are doing wrong. And do not tell me that is a history mistake
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Yes, there could theoretically be a heat wave in November, but its unlikely to be an over 100 degree heat wave in November in NYC. All evidence shown so far is that seasons/weather patterns pass as normal like our world. There is NO EVIDENCE to dispute that assumption. They wear jackets during winter, indicating cold weather. There is ice/snow visible during winter scenes in Daredevil Season 2 and Jessica Jones Season 1.

The Nuremberg trials only ended in October, 1946, but they began in November, 1945, thus Agent Carter mentioning them during an episode set in May, 1946 makes perfect sense and doesn't dispute anything in our timeline. This is the kind of important detail that matters, and that you keep overlooking with your approach.

Keitel is an example of the MCU history deviating from the real world (which happens in most cases seeing as they have superheroes and a very different history as a result). In the MCU timeline Keitel was hanged in April, 1946, while in real world he died in October, 1946.

But its a very different thing to have historical differences like that and seasons/weather patterns being totally different as you're suggesting.

You continue to use very illogical conclusions to justify your "release date" approach, mate.

I'm not using "our world props" whatever that means... I'm using the props IN the films and episodes themselves that convey the dates intended for those entries to occur on.

I'm getting tired of having the same circular debate where you insist on illogical approaches. You do your timeline how you like, I'm going to utilize the logical approach for this one.
 
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DIrishB said:
I'm getting tired of having the same circular debate where you insist on illogical approaches. You do your timeline how you like, I'm going to utilize the logical approach for this one.
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It's like playing a pigeon at chess
 
DIrishB said:
Updated for Doctor Strange - Infinite comic prequel. As usual with the Infinite Prelude comics, its tentative until the TPB comes out due to the digital comic approach the Infinite versions take.

It begins an indeterminate number of years ago and focuses on Kaecilius and how he went bad. It then picks up closer to present day, with him training under Ancient One (presumably after events of the the print Prelude issues). He struggles with not learning what he came to the Ancient One to learn, and is haunted by flashbacks of his dead wife and unborn son (who despite never being born is shown as an 8-10 year old kid in the one vision he has, presumably setting the first portion in the past 8-10 years before, I placed it in 2008). It leads directly into Doctor Strange from there.
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Hmm,
Cagliostro
. Interesting. I know the film probably won't even touch on that, but I can only hope.
 
Oh yes sure, you used very well the weather prop... you have AoS2 in January the first episodes that are in USA and I cannot see cold weather, so if in AoS the weather does not count what should it be for the Netflix Shows (DD1 in earlier 2015)
 
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A13G10 said:
Oh yes sure, you used very well the weather prop... you have AoS2 in January the first episodes that are in USA and I cannot see cold weather, so if in AoS the weather does not count what should it be for the Netflix Shows (DD1 in earlier 2015)
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Lol, you do remember I moved those based on your suggestion, right? Thanks for confirming I should ignore your suggestions.

A13G10 said:
Episode 9 and 10 - Kree City events
Episode 12 - They say they went to the Kree City (Episode 9 and 10) last week. Kidnaps Hunter after he questions about Bobbi and Mack.
Episode 13 - Picks up very soon after as they start to get Skye help. Takes Hunter to the Iliad.
Episode 14 - Runs on from 13 with Hunter on the Iliad. Gives Bobbi 6 hours to get the Toolbox and come back.
Episode 15 - Covers those next hours Bobbi has been given to get the Toolbox. Mack says Hunter's been gone for 48 hours.
Episode 16 - Skye wakes up after sleeping for two days. Hunter says he was only gone a week (5 days). Skye starts training tomorrow.
Episode 17 - Skye's training. Ethan goes away. Dinner with Skye's family.
Episode 18 - Ethan dies in 37th hour. Dinner was last night.
Episode 19 - Follows straight on as they go to the Arctic.
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So, if I'm to take your suggestions seriously, AND acknowledge the dialogue in 2x01 that Talbot has been chasing them all winter (hence placing it in January, to allow that comment to make sense and allow enough time for the following episodes to tie in with Age of Ultron in May, what do you suggest?

Forcing the entire season into a 2 month time span?

Personally, the way I had it originally, Season 2 started in an unspecific placement in 2014. It was your suggestion (quoted above) that had me change it to its current layout (something I was apprehensive about doing based on your other illogical suggestions). So, you're only helping to confirm I shouldn't take any of your suggestions seriously.

I'll move them up to March, that'll solve that problem, but forces the entirety of Season 2 into a two month period to coincide with Age of Ultron's events.

Don't forget the "One Year Earlier" tag for the opening scene of AoS 2x20, which shows the entirety of Season 2 must cover around a year's time since that flashback scene leads directly into 2x01.

So, we know 2x01 begins a year before 2x20, based on that flashback. Since AoS 2x20 picks up just after events of Age of Ultron, that places it in May, 2015. That must mean 2x01 (and the 2x20 flashback which occurs just before 2x01) occur in May, 2014, or at least close to May, 2014. I'll place the remaining episodes 2x02 - 2x08 spread across the remaining months of 2014 as I don't think there are any specific timeline references between episodes until the ones you listed above. The rest of the placements pick up in April/May, 2015, to coincide with Age of Ultron's placement.

So, we have 2x01 and 2x02 in May, 2014 since episode 2 follows immediately after episode 1.

2x03 is placed in June, 2014, a couple weeks after episode 2.

2x04 and 2x05 are both placed in July, 2014 since they seem to occur one after the other.

There may be a few month break between 2x05 and 2x06, where the events of GotG, and some of Daredevil Season 1 are placed.

2x06, 2x07, and 2x08 are placed in an undetermined month after Daredevil 1x08, likely November. This allows for it to be closer to end of year (to transition into 2015 while not leaving huge, multi month gaps between episodes).
2x09 to 2x16 occur towards end of year, in an undetermined month, over a period of 2-3 weeks as you outlined above.

There is a presumed gap of a few months between 2x16 to 2x17 where Skye is training (I don't remember if there are any specific timeline markers or dialogue mentioned that place 2x17 immediately after 2x16).
 
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The problem to me is that you take the a year later so literally... if we based on comments or such dates we have to move DD1 to January-february due to months ago references by Fisk. It is not a year ago.
 
So with Captain America CW added to my edit, it is fully complete for possibly the first time ever. This will last about 9 days until SHIELD starts up again
 
A13G10 said:
The problem to me is that you take the a year later so literally... if we based on comments or such dates we have to move DD1 to January-february due to months ago references by Fisk. It is not a year ago.
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Here's the thing: If Daredevil Season 2 obviously ends around late December, how is Jan/Feb for Season 1 only months ago? That would be closer to a year.

Or are to ignoring the fact we got the obvious timeline reference in Daredevil Season 2? The episodes all follow one after another. Where can we insert these huge time jumps needed for it not to be almost a year ago by your standards and the unavoidable fact Daredevil Season occurs at end of year, it's damn near close to a year ago if you utilize your logic and place Season 1 in Jan-Feb of presumably that year. It's what, a ten month difference, according to you?

Honestly I'm beginning to wonder if you're not just trolling now, lol. Usually someone isn't going to say a year without it being close to or over a year.
 
Oh, excuse me mr. D I didn't know that if something happened in the same year and you talk about it you said it was a year ago... Cox said that DD2 happen more than 6 months since the Season 1 ended. The season 2 begins in late November just 9 months after the end of the season late February... We know that Jessica was over 4 months during Kilgrave's control counting backward from there March 2015 the flashbacks are in September 2013 and they said that Kilgrave's incident (bus accident) happened a year ago in January 2014... so following your logic why not add Jessica Jones in November 2014 because 10 months is almost a year according you ;)
Also we know that The Winter Soldier begins two year after the Avengers... so if I am talking about a event that happened more than a year I do not say 18 months ago, it clearly happens in 2014 not in October 2013 you said that because you are following the screen date during Batroc's interrogation that is when the MOVIE WAS FILMED... In Jessica Jones in an ambulance there is a date May 5, 2015 so we supposed that the show is in May? Also in JJ in a file the date of dead of Reva says January 20, 2015 according this why not put that on 2016?! Yes, why not.
Also if you want to make an MCU Timeline article you have to follow all the stuff related to the MCU like the WHiH World News Google+ posts as the Twitter ones... if you see the January 2015 post in Google+ you will see the reference to Daredevil starting to fight the crime. And what the hell with those 4 months between AoS episode 16 and 17, that does not work at all. I told you the better thing is put the AoS2 episode 1-3 with a few time jump and then you take back the show with episode 4 in earlier 2015. And in AoS2 episode 1 and 2 Coulson says the Bus has been in that state for several months (6 months almost according Mign-Na Wen and the showrruners) so if we are tlaking that the Bus has been without working for months what putting that thing for over more than a year. Look if the Season 2 started in earlier 2014 lets says February and having the Winter Soldier events on October 2013 (following your timeline) the references of months work because it was just months ago since the beggining of the year. If I went to see a movie on November and I want to talk about it on February I will obviously say months ago but if I want to talk about that in October I would say the last year... Now you copy?
 
And finally the AoS3 placement for the first ten episodes you have to look it again... You have episode AoS2 episode 18-22 and AoU in May but have you even think about how much days these movies-series have? They should have like 20 days of concurrent events on May so lets says that the the scene of Simmons being swallowed by the Monolith happens in May 20... so counting from there 4,722 hours that will take us to late November, the final days of November and counting from the days that happen between every each episode of the first 10 episodes we have like 27 days of events that will lead us on December or we left the episode 8 on mid december 2015 and retake the season 3 on January 2016, and then start from there with the others episodes... unfortunately you will have to ignore the DD2 reference of AoS314 is the dammit Hell's Kitchen. There is roughly a gang war every month is the Gotham City of Marvel. Also you are not following the case that in the video of April 26 or 28 I cannot remember the TRANSIA CORPORATION, that lost his CEO in AoS315 episode, named a new CEO after 2 months? According you having the episode 15 on January and the WHiH Video on March. Yes it could be another CEO but there is also a mention of the HYDRA DESTRUCTION that we can see on episode 18 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and the president never said that HYDRA was destroyed because that is not truth also if you followed the WHiH Tweets post you will discover that in May 2nd HYDRA graffities appeared causing fear among the public due to Ellis' statement of HYDRA being erradicated. And in AoS2 they mention that Coulson's Team was togeher over months but you have the episode 1-22 in just September-October following a date that was provided during the movie (TWS) was filmed
 
I usually love reading everything that's going on in this thread, but A13G10 consistently uses awful grammar/spelling and it's so hard to make heads or tails of anything he's saying because it's all running together. IT's also weird that he keeps making all of these suggestions but not exactly backing them up within hard evidence from anything and it's just so tiring to read.
 
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