Lost *spoilers*

Ice said:
I know!

He's pissing me off so much with that, thinking he owns the place. HE needs to get punched in the face.
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It's apparent that Locke is going to fall from grace. Back in Season 1, his jungle experience and having wisdom regarding the island made him a leader and some kind of sage to the castaways.

Now that we know what the hatch is, Locke has ended up playing second banana to Jack and virtually has to have Jack's approval in almost anything. One of the reasons that he was glad to be out there was he was sick and tired of his old life, part of it being bossed around and being totally helpless from his disabilities. This realization through Gale's words, not to mention the tension he has been feeling that was bubbling since they took control of the hatch, Locke's obviously sick of having to be Jack's underling. Now pride is eating away at this great guy, and guru of the castaways, we used to know and things won't be good for him soon.

Also, Gale is truly an enigma. It is common modus operandi for any of the Others we've seen before to act inconspicuous and blend into the crowd. Gale's going to a different direction and it's tricky to determine if he is one of them with him seemingly juggling between being a rude and jaded castaway or a very manipulative sleeper agent.
 
thee great one said:
What kind of ending was that. Gale is a bastard. That was slick.

I liked that Sayid forgave Anna Lucie.

And it was touching that Sun and Jin are happy again. I think Sun will teach Jin english.
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Definitly. Tonight's episode, with the scene featuring his POV in terms of not being able to communicate with or understand the other survivors was very cool, and definitly set up for Sun teaching Jin English.

ProjectX2 said:
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Interesting...

Goodwill said:
Hey! Jin is my boy!

Either the person that taught Sun how to speak English is actually the father or the island is working it's magic again.
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I doubt it. They've been on the island for about two months now...I think Jin might've noticed she was pregnant beforehand. You know, the whole missing of periods and all.

I am just really proud for Jin, though. He's been through the most internally on the island - he can't speak English, Michael and him were at odds for a while, his relationship with Sun was on the rocks, and he was on the doomed raft. He's taking a lot from this experience and it's evident.

"Daddio". :lol: Made me cry, actually.

Ana Lucia was actually bearable in this episode. I liked the trio between Sayid, her, and Charlie... It was a lot of fun and gave us a look at the Charlie we once knew. Unfortunately, he had a gun which means he's still working with Sawyer. He's still the dark character he's become this season. Ana Lucia and Sayid are coming together well, but I hope that there is still tension between them... I think it's stupid for Sayid to hold the Others responsible.
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What? Why? I think it makes perfect sense. Ana Lucia, while being the one who pulled the trigger, only did so because of exactly what he said: she was trying to protect her people. He can not only relate to that, but understand it. So as not to hold anger on her for an accident, he shifts it to the Others, who have not done anything accidental to the survivors. It makes sense to me.

Henry Gale makes no sense... If he's in such a situation, why is he opening his mouth like that? Who is this guy? It's really starting to get to me.
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Cuz he's one of the Others. He's just having fun ****ing with the survivors.

Locke... "My" hatch? What the hell?
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Well...he did find it.
 
DiB... Always pushing buttons, right? That's why you're my boy, too. Jin, Eko, and you. We're like the Goonies or something.

Anyway, let me get to it...

I only say that the man that taught Sun how to speak English might be the father because of a few things I noticed in the episode. First of all, there was obviously an attraction between Sun and the bald Korean... The way they left him in the flashbacks indicated that he may have been the reason why Sun decided to stay in Korea. I am not totally sure about this as it was left open ended. Furthermore, when Jin and Sun hugged after Sun told him she had not been with another man she looked apprehensive, almost anxious. If Henry Gale is any indication, characters on this show usually aren't who they appear to be at first, right? Lastly, isn't it possible for Sun not to notice she's been pregnant for a while? I'm no expert being that I'm only 18, but it is a possibility, right? I do see what you're saying, DiB, I just wanted to back myself up to stir **** up. :)

Part of me wanted to have Sayid blame Ana Lucia until she was dead only because I do not really like her character and the other part of me wanted Sayid to be a very dark person in solitude because of her... Either way, I did not expect him to forgive Ana Lucia. I think there needs to be tension between her and the rest of the castaways... That's what makes her charater interesting. Who knows where she'll end up now... I just hope she's not a thorn in everyone's side like I know she can be.

Henry Gale. I just don't know. I'd like to find out a little more background information on him so that I can make an honest guess. I'm lost right now... I don't know what to think of his manipulative ***. If we found out his occupation, age, or where he lived we could tell if he was an Other or not. If we don't find out, all signs are pointing towards the Others.

Also, I was just thinking about something... In Claire's episode, Mr. Friendly (Beardless Friendly, anyway) spoke to Ethan about "him". "He won't be happy", he said. Then, in the second episode, Desmond asks Jack "Are you him?" When Jack says yes, Desmond gives him some snowman riddle (What was it again?)... What's going on here?
 
Goodwill said:
DiB... Always pushing buttons, right? That's why you're my boy, too. Jin, Eko, and you. We're like the Goonies or something.
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*does Sloth's Tarzan impression*

Anyway, let me get to it...

I only say that the man that taught Sun how to speak English might be the father because of a few things I noticed in the episode. First of all, there was obviously an attraction between Sun and the bald Korean... The way they left him in the flashbacks indicated that he may have been the reason why Sun decided to stay in Korea. I am not totally sure about this as it was left open ended. Furthermore, when Jin and Sun hugged after Sun told him she had not been with another man she looked apprehensive, almost anxious.
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You're right. He's also the guy who she thought she'd end up dating/marrying etc, I think they had an arranged date shown in one of Sun's earlier flashbacks, in an earlier episode. He was the one who offered to teach her English, and apparently did.

If Henry Gale is any indication, characters on this show usually aren't who they appear to be at first, right? Lastly, isn't it possible for Sun not to notice she's been pregnant for a while? I'm no expert being that I'm only 18, but it is a possibility, right? I do see what you're saying, DiB, I just wanted to back myself up to stir **** up. :)
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Quite possible. It is possible for her not to notice for the month I guess...or she just didn't put two and two together in terms of missing periods and being pregnant. But then again, I'm pretty sure that pregnancy tests only work reliably during the first several weeks of pregnancy, due to the large increase of hormones early on in pregnancy. We'll see how it turns out.

Part of me wanted to have Sayid blame Ana Lucia until she was dead only because I do not really like her character and the other part of me wanted Sayid to be a very dark person in solitude because of her... Either way, I did not expect him to forgive Ana Lucia. I think there needs to be tension between her and the rest of the castaways... That's what makes her charater interesting. Who knows where she'll end up now... I just hope she's not a thorn in everyone's side like I know she can be.
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I can agree with those points, and there will definitly still be tension between Ana Lucia and the rest. I just thought it was within Sayid's character to do what he did. He's had some time to think about it (about 12 days according to the timeline), realize it was a mistake, and even worse a mistake that only occurred due to what the Others have done to the survivors. I think he also has reached the point of "Us or Them" with the Others, and in terms of Ana Lucia also being on the plane and an adversary to the Others, he saw no other avenue but to forgive her...or go nuts.

Henry Gale. I just don't know. I'd like to find out a little more background information on him so that I can make an honest guess. I'm lost right now... I don't know what to think of his manipulative ***. If we found out his occupation, age, or where he lived we could tell if he was an Other or not. If we don't find out, all signs are pointing towards the Others.
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Very true. I'm thinking he's an Other just because of the way he manipulates, and also due to the fact that the show creators said the second season was all about "learning the rules of the island". I think Gale, once its established he's an Other (or even before), will play an intrinsic part in teaching the survivors the rules. I'm thinking we'll see a lot of that next episode.

Also, I was just thinking about something... In Claire's episode, Mr. Friendly (Beardless Friendly, anyway) spoke to Ethan about "him". "He won't be happy", he said. Then, in the second episode, Desmond asks Jack "Are you him?" When Jack says yes, Desmond gives him some snowman riddle (What was it again?)... What's going on here?
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Good question...I have no idea about that, honestly.

Another new episode summary, for "S.O.S.", which will apparently be a Libby-centric episode:

Rose is surprisingly and vehemently opposed to Bernard's plan to create an S.O.S. signal; romantic sparks are rekindled between Jack and Kate when they trek into the jungle to propose a "trade" with "The Others"; and Locke begins to question his faith in the island.
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Interesting we'll be seeing more of Rose and Bernard. The Jack and Kate romance thing doesn't really interest me, but the "trade" I'm convinced has to do with Gale (duh!). What I'm thinking happens is once they propose the trade to the Others, they claim not to know what they're talking about or who Gale is...more questions...And Locke losing faith in the island...we've seen it coming, but interesting to see it addressed so soon. Nothing on whats up with Libby, but with this episode and "Dave", as well as her role in "Maternity Leave", and the more we've seen of Bernard, it seems the writers are making a dedicated attempt to bring the Tailies into the show and make them a natural part of it, like we already saw with Ana Lucia and Eko.
 
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Desmond actually riddled Locke, but I can't remember the riddle.
 
Well, I've heard that "SOS" is actually a Rose/Bernard-centric episode, explaining their marriage and what odd similarities Rose actually has to Locke. I think it would be a much better idea to have the episode follow Libby, seeing as how she will probably play into the story of Lost more than Rose and Bernard, but the creators can do what they want... I'll still be equally entertained!

Hell, they could give the dog, Vincent, a flashback and I'd be satisfied. Speaking of the dog, where has he been?

Anyway... If Jack and Kate are "trading" Henry Gale to the Others what are they getting in return? Are we supposed to assume that Charlie, Ana, and Sayid were actually led into a trap? Also, is it a smart thing the survivors are making the first move? If Henry Gale is indeed an Other that would mean they broke the pact that Mr. Friendly and Jack made by capturing and harming one of the Others... This'll be interesting!

Yeah, the riddle is something that is puzzling me... Once we find out more about it, we'll understand a lot more about the Others. Is Desmond affiliated with them? Are the Others answering to a "higher power"? Who really is behind the Others? We may have our guesses, but I'd be willing to bet we're all wrong...
 
I really hope Ana Lucia dies, never liked her. Charlie, Sawyer and Jack are becoming my favorite characters. :)
 
Goodwill said:
Well, I've heard that "SOS" is actually a Rose/Bernard-centric episode, explaining their marriage and what odd similarities Rose actually has to Locke. I think it would be a much better idea to have the episode follow Libby, seeing as how she will probably play into the story of Lost more than Rose and Bernard, but the creators can do what they want... I'll still be equally entertained!
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I'm just going off what the episode guide said...and its never been wrong in the past, so I'll take its word for it. However, given the summary, a Rose/Bernard centered episode kind of does make more sense.

Hell, they could give the dog, Vincent, a flashback and I'd be satisfied. Speaking of the dog, where has he been?
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Not sure.

Anyway... If Jack and Kate are "trading" Henry Gale to the Others what are they getting in return? Are we supposed to assume that Charlie, Ana, and Sayid were actually led into a trap? Also, is it a smart thing the survivors are making the first move? If Henry Gale is indeed an Other that would mean they broke the pact that Mr. Friendly and Jack made by capturing and harming one of the Others... This'll be interesting!
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Good points. I would assume Charlie, Sayid, and Ana Lucia do indeed get captured, but I'm not certain on that. As for the survivors breaking their pact with the Others...technically, Gale claims NOT to be an Other, so I wonder how that'll play into it.

Yeah, the riddle is something that is puzzling me... Once we find out more about it, we'll understand a lot more about the Others. Is Desmond affiliated with them? Are the Others answering to a "higher power"? Who really is behind the Others? We may have our guesses, but I'd be willing to bet we're all wrong...
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Agreed...I haven't a clue...the whole make-up revelation from Maternity Leave made it even worse.
 
Well, Libby is an interesting character... There have been rumors circulating about her and, when the time comes for her episode, it should be an interesting one. Remember Hurley recognized her from somewhere AND she's a shrink... Perhaps Hurley knew her from the mental institution? We'll see soon, enough, I guess.

"SOS" does seem more like a Rose/Bernard-centric episode. I'm not totally sold this is a good idea, or a significant flashback to have, especially now, but again - we'll see.
 
I had heard rumours between a connection between Locke and Libby as well. If there is a Libby flashback episode, it might be when we learn why Hurley was in the mental ward.
 
Goodwill said:
Well, Libby is an interesting character... There have been rumors circulating about her and, when the time comes for her episode, it should be an interesting one. Remember Hurley recognized her from somewhere AND she's a shrink... Perhaps Hurley knew her from the mental institution? We'll see soon, enough, I guess.
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I didn't know Hurley recognized her...adding that to the equation it does raise some interesting possibilities.

"SOS" does seem more like a Rose/Bernard-centric episode. I'm not totally sold this is a good idea, or a significant flashback to have, especially now, but again - we'll see.
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Indeed.

ProjectX2 said:
I had heard rumours between a connection between Locke and Libby as well. If there is a Libby flashback episode, it might be when we learn why Hurley was in the mental ward.
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My guess why he was in the mental ward?...Because he was mental...
 
Yeah, in one of the episodes Hurley and Libby are doing laundry together in the Hatch and Hurley looks at her and asks, "Do I know you from somewhere?", to which she does not reply. She merely smiles. This is definitely peculiar behavior, especially if Hurley knew her from somewhere else. Why would she keep it from him? Hell, wouldn't she question why she was on an island with someone she knew but didn't know was on the same plane? Interesting...
 
Goodwill said:
Yeah, in one of the episodes Hurley and Libby are doing laundry together in the Hatch and Hurley looks at her and asks, "Do I know you from somewhere?", to which she does not reply. She merely smiles. This is definitely peculiar behavior, especially if Hurley knew her from somewhere else. Why would she keep it from him? Hell, wouldn't she question why she was on an island with someone she knew but didn't know was on the same plane? Interesting...
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Very interesting...


Unfortunately, I'll miss tonight's episode since I'm going out with my girlfriend and her parents for dinner (her dad just got a huge promotion so we're going out to celebrate)...but I'll DL it later on...I hate missing it though...oh well...
 
This episode should be interesting as hell... I'm avoiding that synopsis like the plague, so please don't say anything more until tomorrow fellas!
 
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