Lost *spoilers*

I am both excited and scared about Widmore using Desmond to defeat the Man in Black.
 
yeah, i've been thinking about this a lot. Locke met the smoke monster and then he was all about 'pressing the button' then when he had his crisis of faith and didn't want to do it any more, Eko became all about pressing the button, around the same time that the smoke monster was interested in him. It seems like the MiB really didn't want the hatch to blow up. Somehow the electromagnetism might be what keeps MiB on the island (Remember Zoe, the geophysicist that Widmore brought with him wanted Jin to help her understand the Dharma Initiative map that showed where the elecro-magnetic pockets were).

Also Desmond obviously pushed the button for ages and was the one to turn the fail safe key, which apparently made him special and able to break the rules. 'Whatever happened happened' doesn't apply to him like it does to everyone else. This and the alternate (flash-sideways) time line must somehow work together so that Desmond will be able to stop MiB.

I have no idea how though.
 
I'll watch the remaining episodes, but this show is no longer fun for me to watch. For some reason, everything that they've done on this show this season is poor in comparison to what has gone on in the past. For God's sake, they really used a storyline where Sun forgot how to speak English but could understand and write it, just not speak it? Really? And everything contradicts itself -- this Widmore stuff adds up with nothing of what we've seen Widmore do before. We'll see what happens but if they lengthened Season 4 and 5 they would not have needed this last season. Hell, Season 4 really got us nowhere but to establish that they needed to get back to the island...
 
Goodwill said:
I'll watch the remaining episodes, but this show is no longer fun for me to watch. For some reason, everything that they've done on this show this season is poor in comparison to what has gone on in the past. For God's sake, they really used a storyline where Sun forgot how to speak English but could understand and write it, just not speak it? Really? And everything contradicts itself -- this Widmore stuff adds up with nothing of what we've seen Widmore do before. We'll see what happens but if they lengthened Season 4 and 5 they would not have needed this last season. Hell, Season 4 really got us nowhere but to establish that they needed to get back to the island...
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I doubt Sun's linguistic limitations will be for nothing. It'll be significant in one way or another, I guarantee you. As for Widmore, I'm not sure what your problems are, but he's not been unevenly characterized. And season four was absolutely integral to where they're going with the story. Are we even watching the same show?

As for me, I really liked Ab Aeterno and The Package. For me, they've been the standout episodes this season. I have a few more ideas about where things are going that I'll probably get around to posting sometime soon, but most importantly, I finally feel like season 6 is becoming a cohesive entity. The 'Flash-sideways' motif is getting stronger, as well.
 
Season 4 was very poorly conceived. We knew that certain people got off the island but they made it so that we kept guessing who made it off the island... The real story should have been 'ok, we've left but we need to go back' from the very beginning.
 
Goodwill said:
Season 4 was very poorly conceived. We knew that certain people got off the island but they made it so that we kept guessing who made it off the island... The real story should have been 'ok, we've left but we need to go back' from the very beginning.
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Well, no. Season 4 was what happened between the two final scenes of Through the Looking Glass. The primary question wasn't "Who gets off," which wasn't actually answered until exactly halfway through the season, if you recall, it was, "How did they get off, and what about the others?" which was slowly answered throughout the season.

Season 4 is really the most closed-ended season, and in some ways I feel it was actually the best conceived season. The writer's strike damaged it somewhat, but the end result was still excellent. "Going nowhere" is an odd way of describing a season of, essentially, forward-moving answers and exposition regarding one of the show's keystone plot twists, as well as the nature of the Island and character relationships, which make it possible to ask "How will they get back?"

I don't understand your comment about Season 6 being superfluous. Each season has had blatantly obvious themes and gimmicks, setting them apart as separate entities, 4, 5, and 6 most of all. What is occurring now in the show couldn't have been shoehorned in.
 
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Season 4 hinged on how the Oceanic Six got off the island, right... But I'm saying that question was one that didn't need to be answered. They got off the island, that's important, and they need to return -- that's important. How they ended up getting off is essentially irrelevant to development.

And, yes, I see what you mean about each season... But it's like they're ignoring certain things to keep it more contained.
 
It kinda bothers me that no-one is asking Flocke about the people he killed before season 6. The pilot, Ecko, keamys team, etc. Why did he kill them?

Also, I can't wait for Sawyer to come up with a nickname for Flocke.
 
Season 4 hinged on how the Oceanic Six got off the island, right... But I'm saying that question was one that didn't need to be answered. They got off the island, that's important, and they need to return -- that's important. How they ended up getting off is essentially irrelevant to development.
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How they got off introduced so many elements now integral in the final season that their escape was, in the long run, far more important than the fact they got off the island, and equally important to how they needed to return.

And, yes, I see what you mean about each season... But it's like they're ignoring certain things to keep it more contained.
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It seems they're eschewing re-introduction for a lot of the foreshadowed plot lines, such as Widmore's return and his kidnap of Desmond, because they assume people have actually watched the previous two seasons of the show.
 
Goodwill said:
Season 4 hinged on how the Oceanic Six got off the island, right... But I'm saying that question was one that didn't need to be answered. They got off the island, that's important, and they need to return -- that's important. How they ended up getting off is essentially irrelevant to development.

And, yes, I see what you mean about each season... But it's like they're ignoring certain things to keep it more contained.
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I think your just wrong here. How/who got off/what happened during the years leading up to the funeral/who was in the casket. These were the question Season 4 was meant to answer and logically that's all it should answer. The point of the season was showing how heroic Jack became suicidal Jack. Why he was sick of lying, why he felt the need to go back. They never mentioned anything about people being left behind or that they were in trouble, simply just Jack's desire to return. Season 4 explore so much that needed to be done about each rescued survivor and on a show about survivors on an island the moment of rescue is pretty freaking big and needs to be explored. Who the freighter people are and what side they play is pretty big importance. Why Jack has the guilt he has is very important. These are things that needed to be explored to set up what's coming. To just jump from season 3 to middle of season 5 would gloss over way to much material and ultimately leave some much need character development to make the season 3 flash forward have any significance.

I just can't understand how you can't see that
 
Goodwill said:
Season 4 hinged on how the Oceanic Six got off the island, right... But I'm saying that question was one that didn't need to be answered. They got off the island, that's important, and they need to return -- that's important. How they ended up getting off is essentially irrelevant to development.
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They were trying to get off for three seasons. So of course it's important.
If you had watched a show for three years about people stranded on a mysterious island who were trying to go home and then all of a sudden they were home and the show never explained it, you'd be like, "oh well, it's not important"?
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It kinda bothers me that no-one is asking Flocke about the people he killed before season 6. The pilot, Ecko, keamys team, etc. Why did he kill them?
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And how does the drain thing summon him?

I just thought of something. Flocke said that he can't go across the water without a boat. Then how did Christian appear to Michael in the freighter before he blew up? (unless Christian isn't smokey after all)
 
On May 23, fans of "Lost" say goodbye to ABC's groundbreaking series. Following the finale, the stars and producers join Jimmy Kimmel for "Jimmy Kimmel Live: Aloha to Lost," Sunday, May 23 from 11:35 p.m. – 12:35 a.m., ET on ABC, following local news.

After the final episode, longtime "Lost" fan Jimmy Kimmel hosts an hour-long analysis of and farewell to one of television's most beloved series with appearances from executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, alternate endings, and live interviews with cast members.

From Ausiello at EW.com: If you were a fan of "The Constant," then you're going to love next week's heart-shaped episode. And if you weren't, you won't. It's that simple.
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I enjoyed The Constant but don't think it's the best episode ever and it kind of annoyed me at the time. I am worried.
 
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After years and years of putting it off, I have finally started watching Lost.

Locke is by far the most interesting character. As is Ben, from the little snippets I've seen of him.
 
Grocer Man said:
After years and years of putting it off, I have finally started watching Lost.

Locke is by far the most interesting character. As is Ben, from the little snippets I've seen of him.
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Locke is my all time favorite character on Lost. He, Eko, Desmond and Ben are cool.
 
Locke, Hurley, Ben, Desmond and Sawyer are my top 5.
 
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