Heroes seasons 1 & 2 series discussion [spoilers]

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Last night's episode was entertaining as always, and especially gratifying since it was the first new one in over a month (due to the lame mid-season hiatus). I'm looking forward to next week's, where we'll see whats up in future-time.
 
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Last night's episode was entertaining as always, and especially gratifying since it was the first new one in over a month (due to the lame mid-season hiatus). I'm looking forward to next week's, where we'll see whats up in future-time.

WHERE THE **** HAVE YOU BEEN?
 
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WHERE THE **** HAVE YOU BEEN?

I've spent the past month or so in an alternate reality, saving it from an invading alien horde.

Afterward, I was crowned king and given 50 beautiful virgin wives, and all was good except for one thing...on that plane of existence, marijuana doesn't exist.

So I came back.

Be glad...I know I am.

:)


(Good to see you're back as well).
 
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I've spent the past month or so in an alternate reality, saving it from an invading alien horde.

Afterward, I was crowned king and given 50 beautiful virgin wives, and all was good except for one thing...on that plane of existence, marijuana doesn't exist.

So I came back.

Be glad...I know I am.

:)


(Good to see you're back as well).

Wow. In the time I was gone, I got kicked in the nuts and visited a screen door factory.

(Thank you.)
 
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Wow. In the time I was gone, I got kicked in the nuts and visited a screen door factory.

(Thank you.)

Sweet!



Anyway, by far this is my favorite show on television. Lost and Battlestar are favorites as well, but this one even trumps them (at least right now).

Very interested to see how all the plot lines come together.
 
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

.07% is scary. First of all, I spoke like Malcolm McDowell for about 30 minutes non-stop. THEN I watched the rest of the episode.

Sylar so needs to get completely owned. He's such a great villain. :D

Hiro vs Hiro! GREATo SCOTT!

I know, this is heavy.

Poor Mr Isaac! :cry:

And the breakout and Mikah stuff is cool too.

But I was right in my Watchmen prediction. I called it for I am able to see the future.

*knock on door*

'scuse me.

Hello? Oh hello Mr Mylar. Yes, I can see the future. Would yoAAAAAAHH! MY BRAINS!

:dead:
 
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Malcolm McDowell is amazing, especially his performance in Parasite. With him in the kitchen and all...he's the kind of guy I'd want as my grandfather. Totally.
 
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That was awesome. Every story was great.

I mean Hiro vs Hiro?
Bennet taking exploding man and Matt to NY
But one thing that made me say "Holy ****" was when Sylar was painting Petrelli as president, it was the same paiting that Petrelli has but in a different style, kinda like german expressionism (wich is awesome as Im re-learning the exact same thing in college) I can't wait to see more of his paitings!
 
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Well, next week we see 2012. I'm guessing that Present Hiro accidentally traveled to 2012 when he was trying to go back to our time to see Isaac, but then he encounters Future Hiro, then the two of them look at 2012.
 
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Bennet taking exploding man and Matt to NY

I KNOW! I was all - "No, GO TO VEGAS! AAAARG!"

But one thing that made me say "Holy ****" was when Sylar was painting Petrelli as president, it was the same paiting that Petrelli has but in a different style, kinda like german expressionism (wich is awesome as Im re-learning the exact same thing in college) I can't wait to see more of his paitings!

Yeah, they changed the artist so now everything looks... wrong. Which is a great little trick. Well done on that.

Well, next week we see 2012. I'm guessing that Present Hiro accidentally traveled to 2012 when he was trying to go back to our time to see Isaac, but then he encounters Future Hiro, then the two of them look at 2012.

I think it's obvious the timeline thing is Future Hiro trying to fix the future. That's why when he went back and saw Peter he was worried about causing a rift, froze everything, and stayed their for a really short time.

Which just made me realise Peter has Hiro's powers! :shock:

Did anyone else realise that or am I slow on the uptake?
 
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Which just made me realise Peter has Hiro's powers! :shock:

Did anyone else realise that or am I slow on the uptake?

First thing I thought when he said he could use the power of everyone he mets, but I think he won't be able to stop time as hiro, maybe slow down time?
 
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Which just made me realise Peter has Hiro's powers! :shock:

Did anyone else realise that or am I slow on the uptake?

This is true, but even Hiro has trouble using his powers...maybe if Peter had his own sword (godsend).

I think Sylar needs to use his less mainstream powers more. like superhearing, the freezing power he has (guys head in 2nd episode) and THE ABILITY TO MAKE THINGS MELT!!!

So now peter has all those powers too..I want slapstick accidental melting.

but seriously..I just read the graphic novels, which accompany the series and I'm now 100% sure linderman is the patrelli brothers biological father (or at least one of them).
 
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You know what would be fantastic?

If in the future, we meet up with Sylar who is now a good guy.

That would be the best WTF moment ever.

All I know is that I dont want him to die this season. he's way too interesting of a character.

but seriously..I just read the graphic novels, which accompany the series and I'm now 100% sure linderman is the patrelli brothers biological father (or at least one of them).

I haven't, but I bet that Mrs. Petrelli, Claude, Mr. Lindermann, and maybe even Hiro's father were all a member of the superhero team that's been alluded to. Then Hiro's dad starts hunting them down, using Claude, Lindermann plans to "save the world", and Mrs. Petrelli gets her husband into politics... I don't know, we'll see... But everything is going to be even MORE connected than we think.
 
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You know what would be fantastic?

If in the future, we meet up with Sylar who is now a good guy.

That would be the best WTF moment ever.

All I know is that I dont want him to die this season. he's way too interesting of a character.

Actually, I started thinking about that. I was thinking that Isaac's power may lead to a change in his character. Or maybe we've been looking at all wrong and the final battle will have Sylar joining the Heroes' side against the Agency.

What I'm wondering is what Isaac saw when he said that he had already sent out plans to stop Sylar and to stop the bomb.
 
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It's in the comic he messengered out. I'm sure the comic of 9th Wonders tells you how to do it. AND if you recall, the issue is about Hiro being in the future. Isaac knows that Hiro has gained information from the future through the 9th Wonders comic, so he's repeating that. Hiro, now in the year 2012 (which Isaac knows) will be able to READ that comic, go back and know not only how to stop the bomb, but defeat Sylar.
 
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It's in the comic he messengered out. I'm sure the comic of 9th Wonders tells you how to do it. AND if you recall, the issue is about Hiro being in the future. Isaac knows that Hiro has gained information from the future through the 9th Wonders comic, so he's repeating that. Hiro, now in the year 2012 (which Isaac knows) will be able to READ that comic, go back and know not only how to stop the bomb, but defeat Sylar.

There's a reason why he's a nexus, folks.

Not THE, but A. You were stripped of the "THE" when you lost the greatest member title. =D
 
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I think Sylar needs to use his less mainstream powers more. like superhearing, the freezing power he has (guys head in 2nd episode) and THE ABILITY TO MAKE THINGS MELT!!!

He could have been using the hearing when he sliced up Peter, to know roughly where to send the glass. That was a ****ing big bit of glass in Peter's head...


What a fricking awesome episode though!!! The Watchmen-like plot is really cool, Sylar's killing of Mr Isaac was just brutal, and it seems that Linderman is running the company in some way to track down all the necessary pieces on that chessboard of the Plan.
 
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But one thing that made me say "Holy ****" was when Sylar was painting Petrelli as president, it was the same paiting that Petrelli has but in a different style, kinda like german expressionism (wich is awesome as Im re-learning the exact same thing in college) I can't wait to see more of his paitings!
When I saw that, Bizarro Issac flashed through my mind. I thought that if Superman could paint, his ould be like Issac's, and Bizarro's would be like Sylar's.

Oh, and we get to see who Sylar's mommy is coming up.

But I'm iffy on Linderman being the head of the Company. I mean, yes evil illusion chick seemed to work for him, but I think Linderman isn't the head.
 
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There's a reason why he's a nexus, folks.

Not THE, but A. You were stripped of the "THE" when you lost the greatest member title. =D

Thanks.

You know what I love? That Heroes has a mystery and the writers know the solution beforehand. It actually makes me try to work out what's going to happen next.

But I'm not stupid. I knew from "Homecoming" that the bomb plot was for this season only and the Company would be the major arc for the next year, and so, many pieces aren't revealed yet.

But what's interesting right now is how Sylar will be affected by Isaac's power.

Sylar's ability is to be able to see how things work, how each cog fits into the machine. I'm convinced had he not gone brain-eating insane, his purpose (and I reckon each super has a purpose - whatever is giving them powers gives them specific powers for specific reasons; hereditary may determine who gets powers, but not what powers they get - there's no link between Nathan's flying and Claire's regeneration) would've been to sense other supers, discover what their powers are, and what they are meant to do with their powers. Remember how Sylar was all about destiny? His power was to foretell other destinies as it were, and he lost it. So now, he's stealing everyone's destiny (i.e. their power) for himself. Also, Isaac's paintings, put together, tell the future Linderman says - so now Sylar has two powers related to divining the future; one literally, the other through the application of powers.

I think Sylar becoming a good guy is completely feasible. Or at least, a major player. The guy is going to devour what's to come.

If Sylar doesn't redeem himself, then he will become a devourer of the future, and when it's revealed why certain people get the specific powers that they do, Sylar will be the most powerful threat against that agenda, and he'll have to be taken down. Unless, that agenda is malevolent of course.

Also, if we recall Peter's dream, remember how resigned Hiro looks as Peter explodes?

I don't think Hiro will stop Peter. I think he'll let it happen to 'save the future'. I think the reason they made sure Peter Petrelli got Claire's regeneration is so the explosion won't kill him, though I'm unsure why.

But there's still a lot of connections we don't get, and unconnected elements that need to connect. For example, how is Parkman, Jessica (Mikah and her husband), and the Devereux lot fitting in? What about Ted? While Ted has an important part to play in the bomb, how is his blood connected to the others? The hearing lady? What does Peter having and Sylar not having the regneration mean in relation to the bomb? How will Ted and Peter even meet? Will Peter choose to go nuclear? Is it Ted that explodes? (Remember, Peter dreamt he was flying and it turned out it was Nathan's POV he was dreaming in - could Ted be the one who goes boom? Isaac's painting doesn't show a face... Will Nathan replace Peter with Ted as a sacrifice to keep his brother alive?)

What I think will happen is the bomb will enlighten the characters to the Company and the conspiracy. It's doing this already. Because of a desire to stop the bomb, the characters, mainly spurned by Hiro, have begun noticing one another and of course, becoming aware of the Company. I think the Company (along with Suresh's help) will open the characters to the origin of their species, their purpose as supers. And that will open up to the future. I think that's the four-year plan. Bomb > Company > Origin > Future.

It'll be interesting to see how the future seasons will adapt other comics since Season 1 is obviously Watchmen. From the 'mask-killer' to the conspiracy to save the world by destroying Manhattan.

I'm guessing the future 2012 episodes will ring true with The Dark Knight Returns. (Think about it - Nathan is the corrupt government-sponsored Superman...)

God - it's like Babylon 5 all over again!
 
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Man, if I had been reading the Online Comics, I totally would have known Lindermann's abilities a while ago

There's this one panel a few issues back during the vietnam story where "Austin" looks JUST like Alex from Clockwork Orange...

The middle-aged Lindermann looked pretty kickass too... i can't wait to learn more of his story.

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They reveal a lot in this week's addition to the online comic, it takes place in the future, and explains why Hiro's room is covered with strings and newspaper clippings:

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/downloads/Heroes_novel_030.pdf
 
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