Civil War series discussion (spoilers)

How would you rate Civil War?

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ProjectX2 said:
I like it. Mainly because McNiven rocks, and you get to see a lot of 616 Marvel characters under Millar's pen. The story is kind of meh, though.
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Agreed. McNiven is one of my favorites and is definitely at the top of his game.

I don't hate this, and I don't think it sucks. It's just a very average telling of a very average plot. Nothing spectacular.
 
Right now I would say that Millar has the potential to make this a great comic event, but it's too early to tell.
 
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namor better tap that
 
I'm not liking that cover one bit. Namor doesn't look terrible, but Sue looks like she's a junior highschool student.
 
thats gotta be a varient right, cause i liked the covers that they had the whole wrap around thing going on.
 
Read the first 10 page and then teleported right here. Bzzz.

Am I the only one who is pro-registration? The registration proposal in its current form is too harsh, but yeah, if you intend to use powers more powerful than an AK-47 in public, it is obvious you should be regulated in some fashion.

Seriously, if I owned a flamethrower and a jetpack, you would expect me to be held accountable for my actions while flying around and burning stuff, even if I swear to only singe criminals. Nah, you'd expect me to de detained on sight, but that's another story.

The only reason there hasn't been worse catastrophe caused by superheros in Marvel 616 is simply that authors like happy ending.

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I like it so far. I really wonder how the dust will settle. I can sympathize with Stark. He knows he's right but he's not expecting this to be without a heavy price. Pretty much everything around Civil War has been good, especially the Spider-man tie in.

4/5 overall.
 
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Well yes they should be held responisble but should they be forced to quit, go to jail, or work for the govtment, just see what happens to Patriot and why in next issue. Plus would you really want the govt in control of ALL superheroes?
 
Random said:
Well yes they should be held responisble but should they be forced to quit, go to jail, or work for the govtment, just see what happens to Patriot and why in next issue. Plus would you really want the govt in control of ALL superheroes?
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The State has had a monoply on the legitimate use of violence for centuries now.

What, are you unconfortable with your government controlling ALL police department in the country?

If you consider your government illegitimate, than you try to overthrow it. If you consider it legitimate, you have to accept that only its representant are allowed to enforce the law.

Otherwise, vigilantism label you as a criminal.

And hey, I fully expect to have a few title about full-blown vigilant when this is over. Punisher won't be the only heroes squarely on the wrong side of the law!
 
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E.Vi.L. said:
The State has had a monoply on the legitimate use of violence for centuries now.

What, are you unconfortable with your government controlling ALL police department in the country?

If you consider your government illegitimate, than you try to overthrow it. If you consider it legitimate, you have to accept that only its representant are allowed to enforce the law.
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See the difference is that people have a CHOICE to become a police officer. The heroes aren't having a choice to be part of the gov't or not.
 
Ice said:
See the difference is that people have a CHOICE to become a police officer. The heroes aren't having a choice to be part of the gov't or not.
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They can do like Firestar and stop being superheros.
 
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Ice said:
See the difference is that people have a CHOICE to become a police officer. The heroes aren't having a choice to be part of the gov't or not.
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And not all Police officers can be a one man army, plus isnt SHIELD still corrupted to the core?

E.Vi.L. said:
They can do like Firestar and stop being superheros.
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So the next time they see a mugging they just turn the other cheek or be arrested?
 
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Random said:
So the next time they see a mugging they just turn the other cheek or be arrested?
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If they haven't registered, they have the exact same dilemna as a man carrying an illegal firearm. To use or not to use...

EDIT : You know, normal people who don't spend their time looking for crime can easily spend decades without witnessing a major (violent) crime in progress. Unless you are going to barge in on every case of domestic violence you think you heard through the wall. This dilemna you are presenting is really a construct of the the comic genre. I know that I for one, if I had superpowers, wouldn't have encountered a single crime or accident worthy of them in my 27 years. And I live in a metropolitan area. I'd have to have been looking for those situations.

Let's see how the registration fine point work but legally it should be acceptable to force every super powered individuals to register but only enlist in the govt those who wish to fight crime. The other go about their life. If they stumble on a crim they can make a citizen arrest, but as I said, outside of a comic book author imagination, this does't happen a whole lot. About as often as a citizen carrying a registered concealed sidearm making a citizen arrest, I'd guess.

Of course, in the page of a comics this will keep happening a lot, but in the background, this shouldn't be an issue so if registration wins the "setting" of 616 will be in equilibrium again. I mean, the only metaplot reason for this civil war is that suddenly they have decided to explore what would really happen if there were supers in the real world. That's right, if they really existed they would either get registered or else the supers would overthrow the government and form a new one. No real alternative. The statu quo of 616 is fun but realistically speaking it can't be stable and it almost look likethey want to make it more realistic. In UU, The Ultimates and FF are answerable to the govt, the X-Men were linked to SHIELD (Not anymore)... By and large, the UU can forestall that kind of Civil War for a while because there doesn't seem to be nearly as many supers doing what they wish since the 60s and the govt already has a loyal team of supers policing the others.
 
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I just read Front Line 3 man i really feel for Speedball i mean they arrested him yet Namour and Wolverine seem to be the only ones wanting to get Nitroi the true criminal.btw how long till speeed ball is someones b!tch?and shouldnt he been sent to Jovy?
 
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I think Speedball's going to get his powers back spontaneously and it'll allow him to escape.
 
ultimatedjf said:
I don't know why most of you guys don't like Turner's art. It's not great, but it's still pretty good.

Maybe he's better suited for DC.
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I don't like it that much, but it's a hell of a lot better than some of the other artists I've seen.
 
Oh snap look like Namour is gonna kick sombodies butt...probably Nitro. also heard that the Civil war will push Sue and Namot together wich isnt surprising she hasnt been getting along with Reed.
 
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