Re: Amazing Spider-Man series discussion (spoilers)

Hilarious "reviews" of Brand New Day...

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.... and One More Day.

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But the funniest part of both of those for me? The guy looks EXACTLY (and I mean exactly!) like my English teacher, right down to every facial expression. And that guy's a comic book g33k, too.

Gotta say - I gave up listening to him. I didn't find him funny, nor clever.

I gave up when he began *****ing about the 2-page recap in BRAND NEW DAY, complaining that it insults his intelligence that he has to have continuity explained to him.

Yet - in his One More Day rant, he *****es about how nothing makes sense and that there's too many unanswered questions.

So, I gave up.

I'll say this again - in a couple of years, the marriage will be a bad memory. I'm glad it's gone.
 
Re: Amazing Spider-Man series discussion (spoilers)

Gotta say - I gave up listening to him. I didn't find him funny, nor clever.

I gave up when he began *****ing about the 2-page recap in BRAND NEW DAY, complaining that it insults his intelligence that he has to have continuity explained to him.

Yet - in his One More Day rant, he *****es about how nothing makes sense and that there's too many unanswered questions.

So, I gave up.

I'll say this again - in a couple of years, the marriage will be a bad memory. I'm glad it's gone.
I agree, he sucks at defending the anti OMD side
 
Re: Amazing Spider-Man series discussion (spoilers)

Gotta say - I gave up listening to him. I didn't find him funny, nor clever.

I gave up when he began *****ing about the 2-page recap in BRAND NEW DAY, complaining that it insults his intelligence that he has to have continuity explained to him.

Yet - in his One More Day rant, he *****es about how nothing makes sense and that there's too many unanswered questions.

So, I gave up.

I'll say this again - in a couple of years, the marriage will be a bad memory. I'm glad it's gone.

Bass if everyone liked One More Day would you hate it just for the hell of it?
 
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I'll say this again - in a couple of years, the marriage will be a bad memory. I'm glad it's gone.

Speak for yourself.

And bull**** to the rest of this. As someone else said, it's **** like this that stops comics from being taken seriously by the sophisticates.
 
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Bass if everyone liked One More Day would you hate it just for the hell of it?

Sure. :D

Speak for yourself.

And bull**** to the rest of this. As someone else said, it's **** like this that stops comics from being taken seriously by the sophisticates.

I think the fan outrage that screams for justice as if Spider-Man is a crucially important part of their lives but then continue to buy the comics even though they don't like them is what stops it being taken seriously by the sophisticates. People look at the 'controversy' and go, "So? It's ****ing Spider-Man. I grew out of him when I was 12."

I understand people being upset, and not everyone who dislikes OMD is automatically a loner with no girlfriend, but the community moves to such an extreme so quickly, no one can take them seriously.

Yes, OMD was not a particularly good story. It is, however, of the same quality as most Spidey (or Marvel) stories for the last decade. It is better than the Clone Saga, for example. Very few people are being reasonable, instead *****ing about continuity repercussions which, outside the comic book world, is an alien concept.

Overt continuity is what prevents it from being regarded well, whether a comic or the fans bring it up, you want to turn a non-comic goer away, bring up continuity.
 
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Yes, OMD was not a particularly good story. It is, however, of the same quality as most Spidey (or Marvel) stories for the last decade. It is better than the Clone Saga, for example. Very few people are being reasonable, instead *****ing about continuity repercussions which, outside the comic book world, is an alien concept.

I think the difference between this and say the clone saga (I can finally judge this as I read it to day , I have mixed feelings so I'll say i'm neutral on this) is as follows

The Clone saga started out as a great idea , It started strong , It gave us the Scarlet Spider who if you like him or not was very popular to the point of each game when people think Alternate costume this is always requested. It gave us some great twists and things like peter not knowing if he was real.

Sadly by the end of the clone saga it turned to **** , the dragged it out to far to the point where a lot of fans myself included just gave up on it , had it of ended sooner it would of been a great story.


This was hyped up as been the genesis if you will of a new direction/new way of evolving the charracter and then it came out and it is really bad from the get go , the cool new villains we were promised are just bad.

The fact it is called NEW day and yet everything is making it like the OLD stuff should be false advertising , The way this was handled from the get go has disappointed me , They could have done this much better. Here is some examples

Webshooters - Ok I love having him get these again BUT they could have like I suggested earlier upon hearing this gone the route of Spider-man 3 , He is worried about Aunt may's death ect.. to the point it causes his powers to **** up and he looses organic webbing on his own. then gets his old web shooters , given us something like him trying to get use to using them again.

Marriage / unmasking / villains - Don't agree with getting rid of it BUT if they had to they could have done it so much better E.g Kill Mary jane off. I know that will not be the popular idea but hear me out

They could have used this to help the comic out , Take a villain we've not seen much of or when we have they been a joke say shocker or Electro , Now they know who Spider-man is have that villain kill M.J

This puts the villain on the map in a huge way if they do not un-do the death , Say shocker has got improved shock gloves or has been training and studying fighting making him , more deadly , new costume and then killing Mary Jane he becomes A list , I'm talking green goblin A list

This then makes spider-man find a way to undo the unmasking like the iron man excuse. Having another big villain who knows who is and does not fall for the excuse used means they could really do some great stuff with him

I might not be explaining that idea very well but I hope you get my point , and in handling it the way I said they don't **** up the time lines of like every comic they have , they don't need to do the "ooooh it's magic" thing and could go a new way

Aunt may , let her die. Have peter deal with these emotions like he did with Uncle Ben and Gwen. Let him get in to a dark place for a while , while he morns.

Why not have him hook up with Black cat in a relation ship we know is doomed but he pretty much uses her to feel better and him deal with that , that would still be better than magic bull ****.


but this is only my opinion
 
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A female(!) reviews BND.

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I completely agree with that chick and she put it best "intellectual laziness" I just think this would OMD/BND is just stupid, there were a thousand things worst about the Spider-man series than the marriage, which could have easily been fixed without a freakin reboot.
 
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"I'm buying five copies," one protester said. "Two to keep, but just for the art, and three to rip up and mail to Joe Quesada to show him what a mistake he made by pissing us off."

oh my god

this is why people make fun of comicbook fans, the guy buys 5 copies to prove a point against the book? the point he's actually making is quite the opposite

i owe Adam West an apology
 
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Did anyone agree or disagree with my last post?
 
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Ugh OMD/BND was really crappy, spiderman should be inspiring and responsable (with great powers comes great responsability) and the guy just did a pact with the DEVIL to live forever in his aunt's house unemployed? Srsly, he is 30 years old.

If that was his wish he should have thrown uncle Ben just so he could get out not losing that much.

Another thing, I started reading Spiderman when he was already married with MJ, so this BND is not just a reboot, it's like another Ultimate Spiderman, but one that made the REAL spiderman get canceled. Sucks.
 
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Did anyone agree or disagree with my last post?

Huh. Thought I did.

Basically - killing off MJ isn't too good an idea. Let's forgo the whole "franchise" element (in that she's in all Spidey spin-offs) and all that jazz.

Killing her off would be just as bad as retconning it for the fans. People would still get pissed off because it would smack of, "They killed MJ because they don't like the marriage". Secondly, they've tried it before and it didn't work. Thirdly - for 6 months you have... 'the funeral' stuff. :|

Also, debuting a new villain by killing MJ... it's too much sensationalism. So I think, no - they shouldn't kill her off to end the marriage.

But you're possibly right - it might have gone down better.
 
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Also, debuting a new villain by killing MJ... it's too much sensationalism. So I think, no - they shouldn't kill her off to end the marriage.

But you're possibly right - it might have gone down better.

No on I didn't want a new villain as at first the idea of new villains excited me but after seeing how they did it , I decided NO , they should instead fix villains they had like shocker or Electro or Vulture , theses guys IMO could be A list if they had the chance


Bass said:
Killing her off would be just as bad as retconning it for the fans. People would still get pissed off because it would smack of, "They killed MJ because they don't like the marriage". Secondly, they've tried it before and it didn't work. Thirdly - for 6 months you have... 'the funeral' stuff

True , They could have gone the other route of Divorce like you mentioned. If they actually concentrated on the story and not the fact it was to end the marriage they could pull of great stuff

before when they tried it felt rushed or forced. Instead of looking at the "ending the marriage" as the reason they should look at the story as the reason.

If the story is great it will get new fans based on the work not some ****ty gimmick , Stuff like the webshooters and marriage ending should be things to archive , now it's like the story is just there as a necessity ("it should have a story lets make a random crap one" is their thinking)

You kill Mary Jane in a great and emotional way and keep her dead , It may upset some fans but deaths normally do E.g On Buffy a lot of fans got upset at killing her mother BUT when they got over it.

The way I mentioned makes it so fans think "oh they have been building to this since civil war , This will be memorable"
 

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