Ultimate Spiderman #101 discussion (Spoilers)
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McCheese
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There is nothing logical about this post. Sorry, but having MJ turn into a big ugly thing isn't going to make dating Peter any easier for her. It would only complicate things further.
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That's assuming she doesn't know how to control it. We don't know that yet. Not that I want it to happen, but if MJ turns into this thing when she feels like she's in danger, and she can control it, then that negates his main concern about her safety.
Like I said, I don't like it, but I wouldn't have changed MJ in the first place. If you're looking past the ludicrousness of the action, you see from a plot standpoint it might have a purpose. Otherwise, he might as well just kill her and make her Gwen 2.0.
Like I said, I don't like it, but I wouldn't have changed MJ in the first place. If you're looking past the ludicrousness of the action, you see from a plot standpoint it might have a purpose. Otherwise, he might as well just kill her and make her Gwen 2.0.
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Sacred&Profane
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If I was Peter, I'd definately choose Shadowcat. Honestly, MJ's goblin form looks like a dude...
Gemini
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the next arc is supposed to be called "death of the goblin" so maybe bendis is going to have MJ keep her powers at the end of this arc and have her die in the last arc
hehehehe i said pretty much the exact same thing about two months ago in the clone saga speculation thread and you all called me crazy WHO'S CRAZY NOW?!
Can't argue with you there, but this is Bendis we're talking about. Peter also seems to think that Gwen being Carnage is perfectly fine too, and Carnage is a man. I wouldn't have changed MJ to begin with. Bendis seems to want to ignore the obvious actions to push the melodrama.
Gemini
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carnage is an asexual being that has assimilated the form of gwen, and i'm sure that peter is not fine with gwen being carnage but with so much stuff going on i doubt he can focus on one thing to freak out about
gliderpilotgirl
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I thought of that months ago too..but it is the WORST idea ever. It would be a ridiculous solution to Peter's dilemma: Here's two beautiful girls..one's nice and loving and kind but helpless..the other isn't but is as shallow as a puddle. Lets kill the great one and keep the super-powered one. Because Peter works best with a super-powered girlfriend. ( heavy sarcasm) Sarcasm aside..( my sarcasm and anger is directly solely at Bendis ) It would be a cheap solution, however I'm afraid I can see it coming from a mile way. If MJ dies..and with Gwen out of the picture, this book has officially lost everything that made it special. They are forgetting that it's Peter Parker that makes the book work, not Spider-man.
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Gemini
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so far the biggest surprise in this entire arc is that one of the clones has six arms .... bendis can't write surprises anymore .... wait a minute i haven't been into comics long enough to say that (about a year and a half) so could bendis ever write a surprise that catches people off gaurds?
nobody wants to read a comic about spider-man they want to read about the person underneath the mask peter parker as he struggles with the responsibility of being spider-man
Lynx
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Despite the fact that I'm against MJ receiving powers, Bendis could have made her Firestar and it would have been better than Demogoblin. The OZ formula gave Norman and Harry the ability to create fire. They could have done the same thing with MJ, but had the mysterious creator of the clones (Richard, Ock or otherwise) perfect the OZ formula, eliminating the Goblin effect.
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gliderpilotgirl
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Yes..I am with you. They could have made her something nice.They didn't have to do that to her. It's disrespectful to her character and to us fans. I felt actually insulted, that a writer would do that to my favorite character just for shock value. I am hanging on to see if it can be fixed, because I have confidence that there is a limit of how much the writer can do a major supporting character and get away with it.
Also, I really really hope we see a lack of Spider-man and more Peter Parker in the near future. That means No X-men, no team-ups..just the guy who makes Spider-man special, and his ordinary friends and family.
Somehow I expected more out of the spider-slayers. Don't ya'll think Tinkerer would've taken into account Peter's strength and made it where his robots could at the very least withstand a single punch from him?
Also, as much as I like Gwen, how can Bendis justify bringing her back? I think he killed her off to early as it was. Now that she's Carnage, I'm afraid that he's just gonna' kill her off again. I'd forgiven him for killing Gwen once, but now it's crap if she lives 'cause it makes no sense and it's crap if she dies 'cause then he will have killed off my favorite character other than Peter twice. He can't fix Gwen Stacey.
Also, as much as I like Gwen, how can Bendis justify bringing her back? I think he killed her off to early as it was. Now that she's Carnage, I'm afraid that he's just gonna' kill her off again. I'd forgiven him for killing Gwen once, but now it's crap if she lives 'cause it makes no sense and it's crap if she dies 'cause then he will have killed off my favorite character other than Peter twice. He can't fix Gwen Stacey.
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I'm not surprised. It's the same Tinkerer that thinks a gun and any kind of beam weapon is the best way to hit spider-man. Oh yeah, I forgot, in the UU it is. :roll:
Just for the record ya'll, I don't like MJ getting powers anymore than you do. I think it's dumb and needless. I don't think she's going to keep them either. I think she's going to lose them and feel like, I dunno, betrayed and scared and vulnerable and somehow that will...do something to Peter bad. Maybe MJ will blame Peter, making her...Gwen all over again.
Maybe Peter will go on the run from Nick Fury, and him and his dad will be the Amazing Parkers and their sidekick Carnage. :shock: :lol:
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Maybe he did which is why there were so many there in the first place. Peter took two direct shots from those things and he was still moving.
Ultxon
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I really don't find the transformation to be that much of an issue, I mean how many of you remember Alicia Masters changing into a giant spider or Betty Ross mutating into a harpy? I'd assume none.
Anyway, the transformation idea is a rarely used neat story idea. It forces the hero to question how much he cares for someone; how he deals with MJ will truly reveal what kind of hero he is. No amount of baddy-bashing will prepare him for what's to come, morally.
Overall, I was pleased with the issue maybe not worth my $3 worth but solid, the inker [I beleive he's new] may need some work though.
Anyway, the transformation idea is a rarely used neat story idea. It forces the hero to question how much he cares for someone; how he deals with MJ will truly reveal what kind of hero he is. No amount of baddy-bashing will prepare him for what's to come, morally.
Overall, I was pleased with the issue maybe not worth my $3 worth but solid, the inker [I beleive he's new] may need some work though.
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Mary Jane. Is not. Supposed. To turn into. A giant. Hairy. Beast. Thing.
TheManWithoutFear
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That's when turning a hero's chick into a monster was "kewl". It's Saturday Morning Cartoon stuff.
