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Better than it has been, not great but better. Liked the surpise ending.




A little better but still a godawful book. Oh, and I guessed that it was Doom about half-way through the comic. So I'll knock off a point for failure to surprise me.


1.5/5

Gotta love that panel where the thing is trading blows with that woman... neither of their fists are landing anywhere near the others' body, yet there's still a "BOOOOMM!" :lol:
 
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Does this have a place in continuity or have we decided that doesn't happen anymore?
I'm not quite sure why they picked this format. This should not have been a 9 issue series - there just isn't enough story for that - and it CERTAINLY should not have been written by three different writers. That's just poor planning I think. It should have been Two people who knew the characters co-writing, end of story. Put Bendis and Straczynski in a room together and let them write the 5 issues this wanted to be. I know Bendis isn't terribly good at this sort of thing but at least he knows the characters, and the supremeaverse characters are JMS's. This could have been at least decent then.
Oh, and someone other then Greg Land would have had to draw it because as great as porn is I don't want people tracing it for my comic books. I mean honestly, Sue, Wanda, and Jan, do nothing but run around with their mouths in an O.
Sigh... sorry if this is a little incoherent, I love the Supreme Power books and I have been a fan of a good chunk of the Ultimate stuff and this series just pisses me off.
 
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Does this have a place in continuity or have we decided that doesn't happen anymore?

There are a lot of contradictions about where it takes place, but I believe DiB has placed it on his timeline. Have you seen it yet? It's on a sticky in the Ultimate Universe discussion forum.

I'm not quite sure why they picked this format. This should not have been a 9 issue series - there just isn't enough story for that - and it CERTAINLY should not have been written by three different writers. That's just poor planning I think. It should have been Two people who knew the characters co-writing, end of story. Put Bendis and Straczynski in a room together and let them write the 5 issues this wanted to be. I know Bendis isn't terribly good at this sort of thing but at least he knows the characters, and the supremeaverse characters are JMS's. This could have been at least decent then.
Oh, and someone other then Greg Land would have had to draw it because as great as porn is I don't want people tracing it for my comic books. I mean honestly, Sue, Wanda, and Jan, do nothing but run around with their mouths in an O.
Sigh... sorry if this is a little incoherent, I love the Supreme Power books and I have been a fan of a good chunk of the Ultimate stuff and this series just pisses me off.

100% agreed.
 
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Geez....it was obvious it was Doom. You can see his hood and everything when he first speaks.

Only thing good about this title is the art, which was great in this issue. :D
 
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Well I mean it really doesn't matter, his art still looks great to me. Who cares if photo references and uses a lightbox? What matters is that his art is good to look at.

It's not good to look at. The characters aren't hitting each other, the composition of his fight scenes is ****, everybody's look changes between panels and what's drawn doesn't match what's being said or going on.

I think tracing is a tool of art like any other. For certain styles it's helpful, it's also helpful as a learning process (it's pretty much how I learned to draw).

However, a tool, if relied on solely, becomes a crutch. Greg Land isn't a bad artist because he uses a lightbox (and he does - some people who used to work with him told me so), but because he's so bad with it.

A lightbox is a wonderful thing. I know professional artists who use it for things like likenesses. When you're drawing a well-known celebrity like Harrison Ford, using a lightbox to get their features makes sense - it keeps them consistent and looking like the person its meant to and thus doesn't intrude on the story. I think many people would like it if the current Buffy artist did this as his faces sometimes are unrecognizable or too inconsistent and it hurts the story.

Other people use lightboxes to compose various sketches they've done into a finished picture (though, this is from start to finish their original work).

Lightboxing is just like photo-referencing. What, you can copy the composition of a photographer's work to your heart's content so long as you don't use a lightbox? Nonsense.

It's about what you do with the references and tools you use. Greg Land is just unoriginal, inconsistent, and lazy in his artwork. It has nothing to do with his lightboxing. Before he lightboxed he was unheard of precisely because he was unoriginal, inconsistent, and lazy in his artwork.

The problem is that now, he's being credited as someone who's really good. If he wasn't tracing, if his work was as it was, and people said he was good, people would just scream he's bad anyway.

Scott McCloud says there are 6 steps to any creative process. The 6th is surface. A lot of people think it's the only one, and if art were an apple and you were to bite into such an artwork, it would be hollow. Greg Land, on the surface looks GREAT. But it becomes apparent the more you look into it, that it is a hollow work. It's just not very good. It's all style, no substance. But that's because he's Greg Land, not because he used a lightbox.

Lightboxes are useful tools for all kinds of draftsmanship.
 
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It's not good to look at. The characters aren't hitting each other, the composition of his fight scenes is ****, everybody's look changes between panels and what's drawn doesn't match what's being said or going on.

Well yeah, I have to agree with you on some part. It was horrible on that scene with the Thing and that one girl. BOOOM! Haha.
 
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Turning to the last page and spoiling the surprise for yourself doesn't count as guessing half-way through.

;)

I guess it half way though reading the summary. Come on a big villain with an overly elaborate plot that ****s up Reed Richards? It has to be Doom
 
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... and no one's mentioned the BLATANTLY Cinemax porn box cover? I swear the guy's reading all the complaints about the T+A and doing it more on purpose now.
 
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Girls aside I enjoyed the art in this issue. I love how Land draws Quicksilver and Doom. The story is bad, but I really want Ultimate Doom back so... whatever.
 

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