Ultimate Marvel Timeline / Chronology (v. 3.0)

thanks for the reply!
i think i understand the whole timeline thing now :)

reading a bit more of spider-man, i found something a bit weird in the timeline...
Ultimate Spider-Man #17, "Taking Advantage" (pg. 1-4)
Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #11, "Spider-Man and the X-Men"
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i think it's kinda strange that UMTU#11 happens after USM#17 pgs 1-4, since in UMTU#11 peter goes to the mall with gwen and mj, and yet they barely know gwen. i mean, gwen only gets to say she's sorry for the whole pulling-a-knife-on-kong incident after USM#17 page 5, so it kinda makes me think that UMTU#11 would only happen after the kraven and doc ock story arc (about usm#21), and consequently, ultimate x-men #7 and the weapon x arc only after that, since umtu#11 happens before uxm#7.

i hope i wasn't too confusing :p
 
vmenge said:
thanks for the reply!
i think i understand the whole timeline thing now :)

reading a bit more of spider-man, i found something a bit weird in the timeline...


i think it's kinda strange that UMTU#11 happens after USM#17 pgs 1-4, since in UMTU#11 peter goes to the mall with gwen and mj, and yet they barely know gwen. i mean, gwen only gets to say she's sorry for the whole pulling-a-knife-on-kong incident after USM#17 page 5, so it kinda makes me think that UMTU#11 would only happen after the kraven and doc ock story arc (about usm#21), and consequently, ultimate x-men #7 and the weapon x arc only after that, since umtu#11 happens before uxm#7.

i hope i wasn't too confusing :p
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Nah, not confusing at all. The reason I can't and haven't placed it as such is because Nick Fury appears with hair in both the UXM Weapon X arc and the UMTU #14 Black Widow stories. This seems to be a pretty big indicator that these both take place before Ultimates #2. Also, since Fury recruits Black Widow onto the "team he's building", later to become the Ultimates, its also obvious this is pre-Ultimates #2. And due to the way the USM "Double Trouble" arc, the USM Super Special, and the Ultimates #3 all cross over and relate chronologically to each other, the way I've always had it listed is the way that makes the most sense. I think its easier to forgive a minor hiccup in the way some teens react to each other than a guy shaving and unexplainably re-growing his hair back. ;)
 
Because of the latest issue of Ultimate Power. Should'nt the current Spider-Man arc come before it. Spider-Man was there when they left Nick Fury in the Supremeverse.
 
Jason Doty said:
Because of the latest issue of Ultimate Power. Should'nt the current Spider-Man arc come before it. Spider-Man was there when they left Nick Fury in the Supremeverse.
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Who can tell? Ultimate Power makes absolutely no sense in terms of the Ultimate timeline. I'm actually working on it now, so check in a bit.

EDIT: There's no making sense of it. Ultimate Power doesn't work on several levels in terms of the timeline, and no matter how you slice it, it just doesn't work. Oh well, it sucked anyway.
 
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Just my two cents...I think that you rely a little bit too much on dates when doing the time line. I think they're really just numbers that're thrown in there and it's the actual events that should taken more into account.
 
PureMitch said:
Just my two cents...I think that you rely a little bit too much on dates when doing the time line. I think they're really just numbers that're thrown in there and it's the actual events that should taken more into account.
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The "events", as you put it, are how I determine the ordering. The years are only included because for the most part there are specific references or instances where those specific years are given in the comics.

I do want to make it clear that the events/story is what I use to order the timeline, not just the years. The years only help organize and break up the timeline a bit, making it easier to read and differentiate.


As I've said in the past, I was going to do away with the years and just use Year 0, Year 1, Year 2, etc, but never got around to it. I believe Joe Kalicki will be doing that with his version, however, so check his out.
 
I know Ultimate Power is a total perversion of continuity, but why is Silver Surfer after Ultimate Power? Isn't Nick Fury in it?
 
PureMitch said:
I know Ultimate Power is a total perversion of continuity, but why is Silver Surfer after Ultimate Power? Isn't Nick Fury in it?
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??? I'll have to double check, but I don't remember Fury showing up in UFF's Silver Surfer arc. Pretty sure it started with Reed and Sue shopping, the Acheron people showing up, then they went to Thanos' reality. I'll look again, but I don't think Fury appeared there.
 
No he really did make an appearence but he wasn't physically there he told richards that he's thinking of closing off the think tank and that he was sending danvers there as his field commander. It was in UFF #43.
Thanks alot for keeping this up!!!
 
interpol said:
No he really did make an appearence but he wasn't physically there he told richards that he's thinking of closing off the think tank and that he was sending danvers there as his field commander. It was in UFF #43.
Thanks alot for keeping this up!!!
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Oh ok, then I guess that places Silver Surfer before USM's Death of a Goblin arc. I'm adjusting it now.
 
In your upcoming titles section, you left out Ultimate Secrets #1 due out January 30...was this intentional or accidental?

[Edit] I see now after looking into it further that Ultimate Secrets #1 is a handbook in essence, I retract my question.
 
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Mattimeo84 said:
In your upcoming titles section, you left out Ultimate Secrets #1 due out January 30...was this intentional or accidental?

[Edit] I see now after looking into it further that Ultimate Secrets #1 is a handbook in essence, I retract my question.
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Yeah, I don't include Handbooks since they don't add anything to the story. If it happens to feature a short story, I'll incude that.
 
DIrishB said:
Ok, did some minor rearranging, but that should fix that problem. Unfortunately, Ultimate Power still ****s it all to hell.

Oh well.
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Your right about Ultimate Power being the biggest **** of the continuity. Also Nick Fury was in the sentinels arc UXM #86. Hopefully the new writer will put the original cast together and USM amazing friends will all be corrected. It would also correct UP :shock: (yeah right that won't ever happen :lol: )

P.S. Would bishop leave the team when the Apocalypse fiasco is over? Also would Prof. X return.
 
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interpol said:
Your right about Ultimate Power being the biggest **** of the continuity. Also Nick Fury was in the sentinels arc UXM #86. Hopefully the new writer will put the original cast together and USM amazing friends will all be corrected. It would also correct UP :shock: (yeah right that won't ever happen :lol: )

P.S. Would bishop leave the team when the Apocalypse fiasco is over? Also would Prof. X return.
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Fixed.


:)
 
Spider-Man claims that he will sic Nick Fury on everyone in the Ultimate Knights arc so I'm assuming that's before Ultimate Power as well.
 
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yeah, so i noticed that you're frustrated about how much Ultimate Power screws up the continuity...me too. So i was looking at it in relation to USM and UXM and I had an idea that I think works pretty well (I also PMed you on the boards for marvel.com)

if you've already thought this through and it doesn't work, just let me know.

What if we assume that there is a large gap between USM 105 page 18 and page 19 (not including ads or the intro page) that's the last ACTUAL appearance of Nick Fury in USM. So after having the fight with Prof X in USM, Kitty goes back to the X Mansion and "Cable" and "Aftermath" happen, Kitty leaves the team, "Cliffhangers", "Underneath", and at least part of "Sentinels" happens, and then Ultimate Power happens...during which time Spidey was hanging out with Kitty trying to get up the courage to tell her about him and MJ, but the attack on the Baxter building happened and they got distracted, so he didn't tell her. Kitty calls the mansion from the Baxter Building right when Wolverine and Storm happen to be visiting. Cyclops figures this is a big enough emergency to warrant them helping so they fly over.

And then, after Ultimate Power, it goes back to USM 105 and Kitty sees Peter and MJ.

and what if any reference to Nick Fury after that...(in Ultimate Knights, or whatever) was just the heroes pretending they didn't know what happened to Nick Fury b/c they didn't really have the legal authority to hand him over like that and they agreed to pretend that they didn't know what happened to him (that would explain Peter's reaction to Carol Danvers in "Death of a Goblin" too.

the only thing that is left to explain is the Ultimates, why were they with Nick Fury? (negotiating the terms of being an independent team, since usually being a "metahuman" or whatever makes you government property once you turn 18?) and why was ant-man there? (Ultimate Scott Lang trying out for the team?)

to be honest the wrong team members showing up has happened before ("Deadpool") and it's pretty easy to overlook.

Am I wrong, or does that pretty much deal with any continuity issues? (not perfectly, but I think it works pretty well)
it explains Spidey's ties to the FF, why he and Kitty are still friendly, why that specific X-Men team showed up, and why Spidey seems to not know where Fury is in Death of a Goblin.

i don't know, i'm satisfied, unless you can think of some glaring issue that I missed!
peace
 
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