Ultimate Marvel Timeline / Chronology (v. 3.0)

Squadron Supreme 1 takes place in 2006 since it takes place after Hyperion #5.

Whioch is going to be one big headache if Ultimate Power takes place in 2004.
 
Lynx said:
Squadron Supreme 1 takes place in 2006 since it takes place after Hyperion #5.

Whioch is going to be one big headache if Ultimate Power takes place in 2004.
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Actually, the Hyperion mini starts in 2004, then jumps into an alternate future two years, to presumably 2006. I haven't read the last couple issues yet (not even sure if #5 is even out yet) so I can't say for certain, but from reviews I read online it seems they return to the past (their present). I also haven't read Squadron Supreme #1 yet, but I assume it picks up after the Hyperion mini, meaning also in 2004. This also sets up nicely for the Ultimate Power mini, since the lasting changes that will affect both universes will be addressed somewhere down the road.
 
Nurhachi said:
I'm pretty sure N-Zone (where the FF go public) should go after "popular" and "meet me" (Where Spidey first meets Human Torch.)
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No, I'm positive I'm right on this. First of all, in USM #68, Johnny states:

"I'm going to be rich and famous...so why bother?"

This means he's not famous yet.

He also says:

"We've already saved the world a couple of times in super secret...the internet is all abuzz...We're going to pop. We're going to be huge!"

The couple times fits with the first arc versus Mole Man and the second against Doom. It also indicates they're not famous yet, something they were immediately after the N-Zone arc.

Also, if he was famous, why would Liz freak out and think he was a mutant? Answer: because he (and the rest of the FF) hadn't gone public yet.
 
DIrishB said:
No, I'm positive I'm right on this. First of all, in USM #68, Johnny states:

"I'm going to be rich and famous...so why bother?"

This means he's not famous yet.

He also says:

"We've already saved the world a couple of times in super secret...the internet is all abuzz...We're going to pop. We're going to be huge!"

The couple times fits with the first arc versus Mole Man and the second against Doom. It also indicates they're not famous yet, something they were immediately after the N-Zone arc.

Also, if he was famous, why would Liz freak out and think he was a mutant? Answer: because he (and the rest of the FF) hadn't gone public yet.
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Yeah you proved my point homie. Its not put that way in your timeline tho. Have a look
 
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DIrishB said:
Actually, the Hyperion mini starts in 2004, then jumps into an alternate future two years, to presumably 2006. I haven't read the last couple issues yet (not even sure if #5 is even out yet) so I can't say for certain, but from reviews I read online it seems they return to the past (their present). I also haven't read Squadron Supreme #1 yet, but I assume it picks up after the Hyperion mini, meaning also in 2004. This also sets up nicely for the Ultimate Power mini, since the lasting changes that will affect both universes will be addressed somewhere down the road.
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They jump to an alternative(?) future in 2008 and then returns to their own time in 2006. All in the last pages of Hyperion #5 that is out now.
 
Nurhachi said:
Yeah you proved my point homie. Its not put that way in your timeline tho. Have a look
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Whoops! you're right. I must've screwed that up when I was shuffling stuff around, my bad. For the record, its fixed now.

Ultimate Warrior said:
They jump to an alternative(?) future in 2008 and then returns to their own time in 2006. All in the last pages of Hyperion #5 that is out now.
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Are firm dates actually given in the comic?
 
Re: Coming in October: "Ultimate Power".

I would definitely combine them, but you're going to have to wait to see when they cross over...

Because remember... it being 2006 in the UU does not make it necessarily 2006 in the Supremeverse.

You need context.
 
Re: Coming in October: "Ultimate Power".

Dr.Strangefate said:
I would definitely combine them, but you're going to have to wait to see when they cross over...

Because remember... it being 2006 in the UU does not make it necessarily 2006 in the Supremeverse.

You need context.
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I know, Doc. I am the Timeline Master, after all. However, it is only 2004 still in the Ultimate universe, though it should soon be getting into 2005 with Ultimates 3 debut. As for the Supreme-verse, while there aren't any concrete dates given in the issues, its basis on our own real world and the historical events mentioned make placing it pretty simple. I'm also pretty sure the Supremeverse is also still in 2004, though since I haven't read the last issue of the Hyperion mini I could be mistaken on that point. We'll have to see, like you said. In the meantime, consider the timeline placements for the Supreme books tentative, least until Ultimate Power is released.
 
Re: Coming in October: "Ultimate Power".

I'm just stating that its been pretty clear that years don't usually match when you're travelling between universes...
 
Ultimate Warrior said:
Yes. (That you already know of now :wink: )
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Yup, thanks for that info, UW. I adusted the timeline to reflect it. Soon as I read the issue I can firmly place it, and when Ultimate Power comes out make some sense of the mess.

One more thing, by any chance do you know the title of Hyperion #5? You know, #1 was "Alone", #2 was "Fallen Angels", etc? Just wanted to add that in.

Thanks for the info, Warrior!
 
Re: Coming in October: "Ultimate Power".

Dr.Strangefate said:
I'm just stating that its been pretty clear that years don't usually match when you're travelling between universes...
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That could be the case here, we'll have to wait and see. But for the most part, the placements are based on the historical contexts given in Supreme Power...though with Hyperion #5, apparently they are now in 2006, while the Ultimate universe is still in 2004.
 
DIrishB said:
One more thing, by any chance do you know the title of Hyperion #5? You know, #1 was "Alone", #2 was "Fallen Angels", etc? Just wanted to add that in.

Thanks for the info, Warrior!
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I do actually. It was named "The Prodigal Son".
 
The last six pages of Hyperion #5 are back in 2006 (that's pages 17-22).

And btw, why does 2006 in the SP Universe have to mean 2006 in the UU? Surely we can hypothesize (sp?) that maybe in the SPU Jesus was born two years later than in the UU and hence it's 2006 there while it's 2004 in the UU. Or maybe the guys who started the whole calendar thing (the Romans?) calculated it differently in the SPU than in the UU. Just saying the years given are just numbers and they're not necessarily the definitive truth.
 
vintsukka said:
The last six pages of Hyperion #5 are back in 2006 (that's pages 17-22).
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Thanks, adjusted the timeline to reflect that.

And btw, why does 2006 in the SP Universe have to mean 2006 in the UU? Surely we can hypothesize (sp?) that maybe in the SPU Jesus was born two years later than in the UU and hence it's 2006 there while it's 2004 in the UU. Or maybe the guys who started the whole calendar thing (the Romans?) calculated it differently in the SPU than in the UU. Just saying the years given are just numbers and they're not necessarily the definitive truth.
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You could be absolutely right. I'm only basing the timeline on the information we have, though, instead of merely hypothesizing. When Ultimate Power comes out later this year it should help me give a more firm placement for the Supreme titles. But like I said, you (and Doc) could very well be right in terms of the different years for different universes.
 
the trouble i see with including it is what are you going to do when some other universe, i call it X, crosses over with supreme, S, but doesn't with ultimate, U? are you going to timeline X and enter it into SU? and what of the other universes, Y, that cross over with X? it seems like this could just snowball into a lot of crossing over. i know that it's really a problem to be dealt with when it happens.

but for now i say do include it.
 
Frapalino said:
the trouble i see with including it is what are you going to do when some other universe, i call it X, crosses over with supreme, S, but doesn't with ultimate, U? are you going to timeline X and enter it into SU? and what of the other universes, Y, that cross over with X? it seems like this could just snowball into a lot of crossing over. i know that it's really a problem to be dealt with when it happens.
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Right. It's the first universe spanning crossover for both of them, so I don't see that many others coming that soon.
 
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Frapalino said:
the trouble i see with including it is what are you going to do when some other universe, i call it X, crosses over with supreme, S, but doesn't with ultimate, U? are you going to timeline X and enter it into SU? and what of the other universes, Y, that cross over with X? it seems like this could just snowball into a lot of crossing over. i know that it's really a problem to be dealt with when it happens.

but for now i say do include it.
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I agree. Should there continue to be crossovers with alternate universes, what I will probably do is separate them from the Ultimate timeline and put them in their own thread...and maybe try to color code them based on the universe it occurs in...we'll see. But for now, we've got two alternate universes (the Marvel Zombie-verse, and now the Supreme Power/Squadron Supreme universe)...I suppose its debatable the current UFF story "President Thor" is an alternate universe, but we know its an alternate timeline, and I don't think they necessarily qualify as the same thing...then again I'm not a quantam physicist, so we'll see if there's any more clarification in the arc's conclusion next month.

Pandrio said:
Right. It's the first universe spanning crossover for both of them, so I don't see that many others coming that soon.
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Exactly. Then again, in could (and probably likely will) occur somewhere down the line, so I just might have to separate the timelines for clarity's sake. But for now, I don't think its too overwhelming or confusing.
 
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