Ultimate Marvel Timeline / Chronology (v. 3.0)

[Boil]

Nah, just flip back and forth...

But imagine flipping thru it at your leisure, with it all in order, no checking back & forth with the list...

Ah, but it is...but not. Since it springs out of the UFF #21-23, and will lead directly into UFF #30-32, it is pretty much required reading if you're a completist.

Damn! I guess I will have to get the run then... Or maybe I can just get by with reading the TPB @ Borders...

Damn you Marvel!

 

[DIrishB]

But imagine flipping thru it at your leisure, with it all in order, no checking back & forth with the list...

That would be nice...I just didn't want you to have to cut up all your books to do so, but whatever works for you.

Damn! I guess I will have to get the run then... Or maybe I can just get by with reading the TPB @ Borders...

Damn you Marvel!

Its up to you. Glad you like the timeline.

 

[ProjectX2]

And if you cut up your books, Marvel will then release some issue that takes place before all that.

 

[Boil]

That would be nice...I just didn't want you to have to cut up all your books to do so, but whatever works for you.

Nah, the single issues get read once, sealed up & filed away in a box...

If I were to go 'all out' on a 'timeline reference edition' series of binders, I would be cutting up trade paperback editions...

Glad you like the timeline.

It rocks... I often found myself reading different comics (I read ALL of the Ultimate line, even stuff that is not branded as Ultimate, apparently...) and thinking, "I sure wish there were a timeline to straighten this mess out..."

So yeah, thanks for all the hard work...

And yeah, blame 'it' on President Thor...!

;^p

 

[Frapalino]

if you do ever cut up the tpb's and make a giant comic make sure you take some pictures and put them on here. i'd like to see it.

 

[DIrishB]

And if you cut up your books, Marvel will then release some issue that takes place before all that.

To be sure.

Nah, the single issues get read once, sealed up & filed away in a box...

If I were to go 'all out' on a 'timeline reference edition' series of binders, I would be cutting up trade paperback editions...

Gotcha.

It rocks... I often found myself reading different comics (I read ALL of the Ultimate line, even stuff that is not branded as Ultimate, apparently...) and thinking, "I sure wish there were a timeline to straighten this mess out..."

So yeah, thanks for all the hard work...

No problem, glad it could help.

And yeah, blame 'it' on President Thor...!

;^p

We'll see on that one...

if you do ever cut up the tpb's and make a giant comic make sure you take some pictures and put them on here. i'd like to see it.

Ditto.

 

[DIrishB]

Updated for UXM #68 and Ultimate Extinction #3. Of note, Captain America appears in his original Ultimates costume in UE #3, thereby placing Extinction before Ultimates 2 (as we already knew), but also before UFF #21 (first part of the Crossover arc) since Cap appears in his Ultimates 2 costume there. No big deal, but did require a few adjustments.

 

[E]

Updated for UXM #68 and Ultimate Extinction #3. Of note, Captain America appears in his original Ultimates costume in UE #3, thereby placing Extinction before Ultimates 2 (as we already knew), but also before UFF #21 (first part of the Crossover arc) since Cap appears in his Ultimates 2 costume there. No big deal, but did require a few adjustments.

Problem - Tony mentions Cap having been away "rescuing a handful of morons from a Middle Eastern regime" while Misty was getting her arm blown off - to me that sounds a lot like some of the events of Ultimates 2.

 

[DIrishB]

Problem - Tony mentions Cap having been away "rescuing a handful of morons from a Middle Eastern regime" while Misty was getting her arm blown off - to me that sounds a lot like some of the events of Ultimates 2.

It does, but I'm chalking it up to another mission in the middle east we weren't privy too. For one, there's the whole different costume deal. Two, there really isn't enough time to allow for UWvs.H, the ongoing arcs, and this to fit in between the first and second half of Ultimates 2. So like I said, I'm assuming it was a mission we didn't get to see in comic form. After all, this wouldn't be the first case of a mention of something without it being shown in the comics itself.

 

[DIrishB]

Updated for UFF #28...also, HUGE VINDICATION *****ES!!! I'm talking about the "two years ago" reference in the flashback scene of the teleportation incident at the opening of the issue. This vindicates my placements of the early UFF issues in 2002, and the current placements in 2004 (of course besides Millar himself saying the UFF came on the scene first, even before USM). So booo-yeah!

 

[Pandrio]

Updated for UFF #28...also, HUGE VINDICATION *****ES!!! I'm talking about the "two years ago" reference in the flashback scene of the teleportation incident at the opening of the issue. This vindicates my placements of the early UFF issues in 2002, and the current placements in 2004 (of course besides Millar himself saying the UFF came on the scene first, even before USM). So booo-yeah!

Well, it's good to see an answer to at least that part of the UFF continuity glitches. I'll be glad to see the flashback myself, once the arc comes out in trade.

 

[DIrishB]

Well, it's good to see an answer to at least that part of the UFF continuity glitches. I'll be glad to see the flashback myself, once the arc comes out in trade.

Well, we already had that mention by Millar the UFF were the first supers in the Ultimate universe, but this just puts it in writing and gives a more firm placement.

 

[Pandrio]

Well, we already had that mention by Millar the UFF were the first supers in the Ultimate universe, but this just puts it in writing and gives a more firm placement.

Yeah, better to have a reference in the comic, than take the word of one of its former (and now current) writers.

 

[DIrishB]

Yeah, better to have a reference in the comic, than take the word of one of its former (and now current) writers.

Exactly. Still, far as I'm concerned, that issue can be put to rest. Though they still should explain the UMTU crap...but I think at this point we can safely say it probably won't be explained in the comic.

 

[vintsukka]

Though they still should explain the UMTU crap...but I think at this point we can safely say it probably won't be explained in the comic.

From Newsarama's report on the NYCC Ultimate Universe Panel:

Asked what actually does carry over, continuity wise from Ultimate Team-Up, Bendis said that most is in continuity, noting the Hulk/Fury elements in particular, but that certain issues and small moments may not fit because they were still sketching out the feeling of the Ultimate Universe.

The Fantastic Four issue, he noted, was a total joke, should not be taken seriously, and is obviously an exception to that rule.

"90% of it is continuity," he concluded.

I guess we just have to accept that there's stuff in UMTU that will never work in continuity. The mention of Doom in the Black Widow issue is the first to come to mind.

 

[Nurhachi]

From Newsarama's report on the NYCC Ultimate Universe Panel:

I guess we just have to accept that there's stuff in UMTU that will never work in continuity. The mention of Doom in the Black Widow issue is the first to come to mind.

Yeah i think you'll have to put All other books continuity before UMTU's continuity. Therefore if UFF conflicts with UMTU, you should go with UFF.

Im glad the "what came first" argument between UFF and other titles has finally been cleared. Even if i was wrong

 

[DIrishB]

From Newsarama's report on the NYCC Ultimate Universe Panel:

I guess we just have to accept that there's stuff in UMTU that will never work in continuity. The mention of Doom in the Black Widow issue is the first to come to mind.

The Doom mention is what I'm talking about...but the way my timeline is set up, it works, because I have UFF #1-12 taking place before that.

Yeah i think you'll have to put All other books continuity before UMTU's continuity. Therefore if UFF conflicts with UMTU, you should go with UFF.

Agreed. With the exception of UMTU #9 (which wasn't supposed to fit anyway), it works out pretty well. The main screw-up is the USMSS with Spidey interacting with the FF, and meeting Johnny then, then way later on in USM acting like he didn't recognize him...maybe he just thought it was some other random flaming mutant or something.

Im glad the "what came first" argument between UFF and other titles has finally been cleared. Even if i was wrong

I am glad its over too, mainly because I'm right.

 

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Kudos to Irish.

 

[Mavrick889]

I'm still not convinced. Two years ago would be 2004, not 2002 (and yes, I realize as far as your timeline is concerned, the ultimate universe is still in '04).
This really does nothing to confirm whether or not the FF have been around before the rest of the superhero community, just that they've been around for two years...remember, the Ultimates themselves have been around for just about 2 years now also (according to that series). Forgetting even that, the Ultimate universe has always been screwed up in regards to concrete amounts of time (Ultimate Spider-Man has caught up with Ultimates 2 and Ultimate X-Men and yet he's still only had powers for less than a year...?).

 

[Pandrio]

This really does nothing to confirm whether or not the FF have been around before the rest of the superhero community, just that they've been around for two years...

I believe this kind of evidence in the comic itself and the statement by Mark Millar saying that UFF came first, along with the way it seems to fit well in the timeline is enough to believe that the origin was meant to take place in the Ultimate Universe's 2002. I can't really say much about it as I haven't read the issue and won't until it comes out in trade, but I doubt it truly confirms the date, however, this is probably the best way to see the stories taking place.

Forgetting even that, the Ultimate universe has always been screwed up in regards to concrete amounts of time (Ultimate Spider-Man has caught up with Ultimates 2 and Ultimate X-Men and yet he's still only had powers for less than a year...?).

Sure there are continuity glitches throughout the small universe, but what is the best way to keep them to a minimum? I'd say categorizing them to this timeline. When did they say Spidey has only had his powers for less than a year? If it was after Warriors then it is a glitch (and I haven't read it), but before that, using this timeline, it is possible that he hadn't have his powers for a year (I think).