Punisher MAX (Ennis #1-60) Discussion *Spoilers*

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I just re-read The Tyger and The Cell, after getting up to date. I think these are excellent. The Cell is just scarey like the image of the guy holding two heads and frank just saying "I can start a riot; I can get out....I'm gonna start killing now"..So F*ing Awsome. And I like how the Tyger..I'm guessing it's his first mission...and frank says "someone will do some digging...vietnam...then they'll find a cluster**** called firebase valley forge"..i.e. the end of Born...I'm so getting my own copy of first to last..as well as various others
 
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Hell yes. The Cell was brilliant. The Tyger - Garth Ennis has just enriched this second-tier character to a point he almost doesn't deserve. It's such a joy to read.
 
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I think I almost prefer punisher to Preacher in a way..well...maybe...I'll explain why. there's that bit in salvation where there's that ex-nazi guy who's started a new life and he's not hurting anyone and seems an alright guy..he was even gonna make jesse's mom happy. And Jesse finds out and gives him a noose and tells him to hang himself...didn't quite sit well with me...

..see if the Punisher ever does anything like that..it's ok cuz he's the punisher...he's not meant to be right.. his code of ethics is just if you're a killer or rapist or slaver or whatever he's gonna killl you, it's not right but it makes sense to him. I might not agree sometimes (although i think so far i have done) but he's not supposed to be a "hero" he's just supposed to be a character..and he definitely is.
 
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It's the whole 'guilty pleasure' thing. If Punisher was a real person, we'd probably find him repugnant. But he's not real, so it's cathartic. Garth Ennis makes sure the bad guys are really deserving of being killed, so we want Punisher to kill these guys. The question of morality in regards to real life are irrelevant because we know this is essentially, a western. Let's shoot up the bad guys! :D
 
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Bass said:
Garth Ennis makes sure the bad guys are really deserving of being killed, so we want Punisher to kill these guys. The question of morality in regards to real life are irrelevant because we know this is essentially, a western. Let's shoot up the bad guys! :D
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Thats how I always picture the Punisher, not just a guy who goes around killing criminals, but only goes after the ones the law wont or cant touch, he's trying to catch the holes in the system.
 
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Ok so maybe what I'm saying is..ennis makes me hate all the villains in Punisher,, but that ex-nazi guy in Preacher didn't seem at all evil and I didn't think what Jesse did was not only not right, but just not Needed. Yeah I like that explanation of the punisher catching the criminals the law can't.
 
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Ok yeah delicate subject. And I haven't read preacher for a while so my memory might not be what it was. I can't remember exactly what it was that the guy turned out to have done (I didn't think it was too much seeing as how he knew it was all horribly wrong and tried to get out of germany as soon as possible), but I thought jesse would've been more forgiving like with arseface and hoover when they tried to kill him, he says "never mind about it you're a good person you didn't mean it" or whatever.
Generally I think it was difficult for people both sides of the war, both sides took casualties, but It's also pretty bad if you're fighting for something you know is wrong because if you don't they'll kill you..you think the right thing is still just to fight them even if it means you'll die and someone else will take your place..yes that's the right thing to do, but it's not always gonna be easy. I'm just glad it all happened before my lifetime and that Hitler didn't win. I'm not gonna say anymore on the subject being that this is thread is about punisher.
 
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thee great one said:
That new chick is pretty hardcore.
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It gets even more hardcorerer....

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Ennis...I love you.
 
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What!!!...Bet she did that cuz he's his idol. I'm sure frank has nothing to do with it and he'll be pissed when he finds out.
 
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Ninja4peace said:
What!!!...Bet she did that cuz he's his idol. I'm sure frank has nothing to do with it and he'll be pissed when he finds out.
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I'm thinking its more of a false-advertisement. More than likely---I'll bet Frank won't be able to or chooses not to kill these women....but she does it instead.

She'll wanna play sidekick to Frank and he won't have it.



I'm thinking it'll end with either him killing her because she killed those women.....or him letting her go off into the world alone.
 
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Oh yeah and the kiddie porn mum at the start of this current arc. And I know there were evil women like the incestious mafia aunt Teresa ..god she was scarey..(up is down arc i think)
 
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Victor Von Doom said:
Well I know he killed that woman involved in the slave ring. But normally he doesn't kill women.
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He fed Ma Gnucci to Polar Bears. And then he lit a house on fire with her still in it. And when she jumped out, he kicked her back in.
 
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