Avengers New Avengers discussion (#1-20; spoilers)

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New Avengers Annual.

This was Bendis' worst characterization of Luke Cage. The whole relationship between Cage and Jones was just goofy. I couldn't understand what was going on in the first few pages of the comic because I dunno the panels just seemed messed up.

Jessica's speech was corny but touching.

That being said, Unexpected shocker to see Black Widow II return as The Adaptoid but I thought she was overly powerful. The Adaptoid concept in General is cheese.

What am I trying to say here? Right.

We pick up where we left off with Black Widow II. We find the guy speaking to her is some suit with an unrevealed name. He says his men is working closely with A.I.M. and they've mastered the Adaptoid biology.

Cut too...

Jessica Jones brings the baby to Stark Towers. The company present: New Avengers + Carol Danvers (She's on the ****ing team. I don't care what anyone says about being "official), Mary Jane, Aunt May, Jarvis. Jessica gets sentimental and tells Luke that she will marry him. Luke turns into a lovesick school boy and looses complete sense of being a "man".

The Mayor visits and Tony tells Cap to wear the flag and for The Sentry to accompany them. The three of them greet him at the foot of Stark Tower but then Adaptoid attacks. Cap takes the Mayor to safety.

Adaptoid battles all NA absorbing all their powers until Peter comes up with an idea to overload her. Tony disappears while everytakes a shot and she turns into this creature like thing with all their powers. When Iron Man shows back up he brings all types of Iron Man armor with him, trying to overload her. It still doesn't work.

What brings her down is The Sentry's use of The Void. She breaks and they question her. But before she can reveal anything, the mystery man who observes the whole thing due to biosurviellance detnonates her into a pile of goop... yes, goop.

Tony gets pissed at Spider-Woman because he thinks she's still hideing things and Cap feels sorry for her.

Jessica and Luke get married by Stan Lee and Jessica gives a touching speech.

2.5/5
 
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Yep - Carol Danvers is definitely on the team. Not sure if I like that or not, but so far so good I guess.

MwoF you're dead on about the screwy panels early on. I got the gist of what was happening but only after reading it a couple times. Too confusing.

Other than that I like Coipel's work and would like to see him on the book in a longer-term capacity.

The wedding was pretty cool I guess, but was so minor compared to the rest of the book I can't see how they could bill this as the wedding of Cage & Jessica Jones.

The Adaptoid thing with Widow II was cool. I'm glad he revisited that story, although that's not quite what I was hoping for. Seemed to be a little wasted opportunity with her.

Good overall - 3.75/5
 
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This was an ok issue. I thought that since this was the big wedding issue that maybe it would've centered all around the wedding and not the Adaptoid. If they were gonna have the Adaptoid attack, it should've attacked during the wedding. Bad guy attacks...good guys win....wedding takes place with everyone in tattered clothes. Done and done. A solid 3.5/5 issue............

But no.....

Danvers is on the team?!?!?! Come on Bendis!!!! You gotta be hosin' me man!!!!! Not Danvers!!!! Ugh....I'd rather see Wanda be welcomed back with open arms rather than Danvers. I don't know....maybe she'll grow on me....but as of now.......ugh times a billion.

The multiple Iron Man concept was...how do you say....ah yes---Sweetness Unheard Of!!!! :lol:


2.9/5
 
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Victor Von Doom said:
The multiple Iron Man concept was...how do you say....ah yes---Sweetness Unheard Of!!!! :lol:


2.9/5
Note how he said that in the manner I use, instead of "sweetness that is unheard of"
 
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It was a decent Annual. I loved seeing the Iron Suits all being remote controlled. I also loved seeing Sentry explain what happens to someone with the power of the sentry. It was a fitting rap up with the Sentry mini series.

3.5/5
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
New Avengers Annual.
Luke turns into a lovesick school boy and looses complete sense of being a "man".

What, exactly, is your sense of being a "man" then?

There were a couple things I didn't care for - the different inkers really disrupt the art and make the characters look different page to page - bad move. Aunt May looks more like a corpse than an older woman. Sentry is still being Bendis' deus ex machina. Most of the women in that scene with Jessica and the baby have child issues EXCEPT Spider-Woman (well, that we know about). Carol has the whole lover/baby Marcus thing - didn't MJ have a miscarriage? Granted you put aside your own troubles to share someone else's joy (or you are a pain in the ***) but just a little nod to those thing would have been good.

Definitely more of a standard "Avengers" feel to this issue, which is good. Still not willing to pay cash money for the issues, though.
 
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J. Agamemnon said:
what issues does it fall between?

At the end of the book it says it will be continued in #22.
 
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yeah, the iron suits were good. iron man can be his own army. i dont know why he wouldn't do this more often though.
 
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Rorschach said:
yeah, the iron suits were good. iron man can be his own army. i dont know why he wouldn't do this more often though.

I agree. And fine, I'll give, Danvers is on the frikkin' team, but only b/c she has a big ***. I liked the issue, especially how sentry shows her the void and basically treats her like child being chased by a junkyard dog. I also like how wolverine kinda takes command of the whole situation. I wanna see more of that. easily a 3.7/5.
 
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J. Agamemnon said:
I wanna see more of that. easily a 3.7/5.

And I wanna see him go away. He really does not need to be in the Avengers. Less Canuck...more Cage!!!
 
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Victor Von Doom said:
And I wanna see him go away. He really does not need to be in the Avengers. Less Canuck...more Cage!!!


I'll agree that maybe Wolverine wasn't that great of a choice to with especially since he's the token posterboy/mutant. But I don't think it's that bad. I DO however agree with Cage getting more time. He's the token black guy and I want to see more of those holy christmas lines while he's falling off a damn skyscraper. To me he's funny, tough and full of story line. If you see this, Bendis, milk this mocha man as much as you can.
 
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J. Agamemnon said:
I DO however agree with Cage getting more time. He's the token black guy and I want to see more of those holy christmas lines while he's falling off a damn skyscraper.

I'd like to see some humor in Cage...but not too much. Then he turns into the Token Black Guy from Not Another Teen Movie. Souting "ethnic" one-liners like "Damn!" or "That is whack! or "Awww hell naw!!!".

I want to see more Cage like he was in #17 (at the beginning when they were scaring off the drug dealers in the ghetto).



J. Agamemnon said:
....milk this mocha man as much as you can.

I'm not even touching this line.... :wink:
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
Don't get me started. She turned into a lizard like creature for some reason... it was stupid. If it wasn't BWII, I would've hated the new adaptoid altogether.
Duuuude, I so agree with you.

BTW guys, go to www.wizarduniverse.com and they're taking questions for Bendis on New Avengers. :twisted:
 
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Ice said:
Duuuude, I so agree with you.

BTW guys, go to www.wizarduniverse.com and they're taking questions for Bendis on New Avengers. :twisted:

OMG....it has begun. Someone recognized what Bendis is doing and now they're calling him on it. This is like the comic world's Enron.



Sweeeet.....
 

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