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wyokid said:
How is Hydra a "random group" though? Them looking into strange stuff is their thing. I'm not getting it, you're right.
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My point has nothing to do with Hydra or the group, and everything to do with a common origin for both the Darkforce/Zero matter and Gravitonium.(ie they come from same alternate dimension where relativistic physics are completely different, much like the Quantum Realm). That's all I'm suggesting.
 
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DIrishB said:
My point has nothing to do with Hydra or the group, and everything to do with a common origin for both the Darkforce/Zero matter and Gravitonium.(ie they come from same alternate dimension where relativistic physics are completely different, much like the Quantum Realm). That's all I'm suggesting.
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The group IS Hydra though. We already know it is from season 3 of AoS. Having the two properties be even MORE connected is getting into Ultimate Origins level of contrived cohesiveness to me.
 
SexySnorlax said:
I think they're probably all of Kree origin. They both remind me of the Monolith.
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Could be. Could also be that they're not of Kree origin, necessarily, but just that the Kree were able to figure out how to manipulate these new forms of matter. As said, it seems to come from an alternate dimension, and in combination with the supposed links to Dr. Strange and the likelihood he'll traverse alternate realities or whatever...


wyokid said:
The group IS Hydra though. We already know it is from season 3 of AoS. Having the two properties be even MORE connected is getting into Ultimate Origins level of contrived cohesiveness to me.
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Dude, why are you focused on the group when that has literally nothing to do with what I'm saying?

Furthermore, comparing the contrived connections of characters in the horrible UO mini to a logical common source for these various materials makes literally no sense. Lot easier and logical to link common elements than people, in terms of odds. Even as materials not found on the Periodic Table, there are far less known (and even unknown fictional) elements than people on the planet. That taxes the happenstance meeting of or connection between random characters to an insanely large degree (bringing about the contrivance you mention) than new elements from a common source dimension does.

Keep in mind I'm not saying they're the same thing/element, as they're not. I'm saying I'd prefer they have a common origin from an alternate dimension. It really is that simple. Why you keep focusing on Hydra when that has literally nothing to do with what I'm saying is a mystery.

What is actually contrived is the similarities between them without presenting a connection.

It isn't necessary, just something I'd prefer, and that offers a more solid origin/explanation for these materials.
 
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We're talking about the same universe with a scene where a man creates an entirely new element though, people can do that in this universe. My problem is that Darkforce connects to the Darkforce dimension so it's already going to connect to Doctor Strange. I'm already getting my patience tested with Hydra being behind everything.
 
DIrishB said:
Not at all.

Agent Carter Season 1 is firmly set in April-May of 1946, the One Shot occurs in August 1946 (based on the mention of Peggy having been there a few months and the fact it occurs "1 Year Later" after events of CA-TFA's end scenes).

Also, Souza mentions he'd been in LA for six months, so at least 6 months passes between end of Season 1 and beginning of Season 2. Also, based on the mention of it being "hottest day of the year", Summer of 1947 seems the best placement for AC Season 2. That would mean Souza didn't immediately transfer to LA after Season 1 (stuck around for at least 6 months at the old office, maybe due to his feelings for Carter). The horse race is also labeled the "Summer Classic" so summer, 1947 is when Season 2 occurs, just trying to narrow down the dates/month more.

Guess we can just assume that Howard's offer to head up SHIELD (made at the end of the AC One shot) wasn't accepted immediately by Carter... or she was doing so while still employed at SSR... somehow.
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Also the US Department of War was broken up on September 18th, so we know this takes place before then.
 
wyokid said:
We're talking about the same universe with a scene where a man creates an entirely new element though, people can do that in this universe. My problem is that Darkforce connects to the Darkforce dimension so it's already going to connect to Doctor Strange. I'm already getting my patience tested with Hydra being behind everything.
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Oh my God... Why do you keep missing the inherent point I'm making? I have no problem with different origins/approaches taken, I'm saying the blatantly obvious similarities between the two (Dark Matter/Gravitonium) would logically support a common origin in the Darkforce dimension. What I'm suggesting really is that simple and has nothing to do with Hydra or who is using it in the shows, but the ORIGIN of where it comes from. I am saying I'd like to see Gravitonium linked to originating from Darkforce dimension as well.


dsethlewis said:
Also the US Department of War was broken up on September 18th, so we know this takes place before then.
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Maybe. Don't forget that just because it happened in reality on that date doesn't mean it had to happen same way in MCU. After all, days of the week line up differently regarding dates (evidenced in CA-TFA's newspaper days/dates, though those are likely unintentional).
 
And I'm saying I don't and that I think it's well enough connected already and that I'd like it to remain as something found on Earth.
 
DIrishB said:
Also, I doubt there will be any reference or connection to the Hellfire Club, given the proposed Fox series focusing on that (even if it doesn't happen that indicates Fox was granted the TV rights for those characters from Marvel for a certain period of time, likely at least 1-3 years).
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I'd certainly like to think Hellfire Club and Legion are integrated in the MCU, as part of Marvel and FOX's TV deal.

My theories:
* Legion takes place in a alternate world where powered-beings aren't public knowledge.
* The Hellfire Club have disbanded at the end of X-Men First Class, so it can't be the version from that X-Men movie universe.
* Inhumans and mutants would basically be the same thing in the MCU, with "mutant" simply being a derogatory term.

There may be a lot going on between the two studios that we don't know about. Marvel has been known to keep secrets for a long-ass time. Hopefully we'll get more info at the next Comic Con.
 
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selfishmisery said:
I'd certainly like to think Hellfire Club and Legion are integrated in the MCU, as part of Marvel and FOX's TV deal.

My theories:
* Legion takes place in a alternate world where powered-beings aren't public knowledge.
* The Hellfire Club have disbanded at the end of X-Men First Class, so it can't be the version from that X-Men movie universe.
* Inhumans and mutants would basically be the same thing in the MCU, with "mutant" simply being a derogatory term.

There may be a lot going on between the two studios that we don't know about. Marvel has been known to keep secrets for a long-ass time. Hopefully we'll get more info at the next major Comic Con.
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Pretty sure that the word mutant can't be used in MCU due to its connections with X-Men
 
selfishmisery said:
I'd certainly like to think Hellfire Club and Legion are integrated in the MCU, as part of Marvel and FOX's TV deal.

My theories:
* Legion takes place in a alternate world where powered-beings aren't public knowledge.
* The Hellfire Club have disbanded at the end of X-Men First Class, so it can't be the version from that X-Men movie universe.
* Inhumans and mutants would basically be the same thing in the MCU, with "mutant" simply being a derogatory term.

There may be a lot going on between the two studios that we don't know about. Marvel has been known to keep secrets for a long-ass time. Hopefully we'll get more info at the next major Comic Con.
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Doubt that'll happen. The animosity between Fox and Marvel is well documented. I don't think Fox will even consider such a proposal until they see returns for the upcoming Sony/Marvel Spidey film far overshadow the others due to its association with the MCU. Nothing heals bruised egos in Hollywood better than cash, and even Marvel and Fox will eventually see sense in working together on bringing the X-Men characters into the MCU.
 
Wasn't this horrible film meant to be in this universe?

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That was the only reason I bought it.
 
SSJmole said:
Wasn't this horrible film meant to be in this universe?

[video=youtube;_r26Dl8gqlA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r26Dl8gqlA&html5=1[/video]


That was the only reason I bought it.
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No,just a cash in. It'son Netflix
 
makes sense i mean it was really bad at one point you can see through hulks arm like a bad videogame glitch lol. But when it first came out i thought they said it was set in the MCU , I'm glad it's not
 
SSJmole said:
Wasn't this horrible film meant to be in this universe?

[video=youtube;_r26Dl8gqlA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r26Dl8gqlA&html5=1[/video]


That was the only reason I bought it.
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Too many continuity holes, and the fact that Red Skull was in the sequel.

It doesn't even take place in the animated universe (I don't think) because Zzaxx (the main villain of the movie) already existed prior to this film.
 
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selfishmisery said:
Too many continuity holes, and the fact that Red Skull was in the sequel.

It doesn't even take place in the animated universe (I don't think) because Zzaxx (the main villain of the movie) already existed prior to this film.
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selfishmisery said:
Too many continuity holes, and the fact that Red Skull was in the sequel.

It doesn't even take place in the animated universe (I don't think) because Zzaxx (the main villain of the movie) already existed prior to this film.
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THIS GOT A SEQUEL ..... **** me ...... John Carter no sequel , Dredd No sequel ....... This a sequel. Thats just depressing
 
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