Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

Bob_A_Mickelson said:
Question. We know that Killgrave was with Jessica for a month since he took her to the hotel on their one month anniversary. Are we to understand that the hotel occurred on the same night as Jessica found her freedom? aka Jan 20 2014? If so does that mean she saved Malcolm on Dec 20 2013?

thoughts?
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It could be, but I'm hesitant to put an exact date on the December date due to the one month anniversary thing... is it 30 days, or 31? We can presume 30 as the standard, sure, but like I said I'm hesitant to force dates without it explicitly being laid out as such.
 
Hurricanebtvs said:
Would it be safe to say the Agent Carter one-shot is now retconned out of existence?
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Not at all.

Agent Carter Season 1 is firmly set in April-May of 1946, the One Shot occurs in August 1946 (based on the mention of Peggy having been there a few months and the fact it occurs "1 Year Later" after events of CA-TFA's end scenes).

Also, Souza mentions he'd been in LA for six months, so at least 6 months passes between end of Season 1 and beginning of Season 2. Also, based on the mention of it being "hottest day of the year", Summer of 1947 seems the best placement for AC Season 2. That would mean Souza didn't immediately transfer to LA after Season 1 (stuck around for at least 6 months at the old office, maybe due to his feelings for Carter). The horse race is also labeled the "Summer Classic" so summer, 1947 is when Season 2 occurs, just trying to narrow down the dates/month more.

Guess we can just assume that Howard's offer to head up SHIELD (made at the end of the AC One shot) wasn't accepted immediately by Carter... or she was doing so while still employed at SSR... somehow.
 
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DIrishB said:
Not at all.

Agent Carter Season 1 is firmly set in April-May of 1946, the One Shot occurs in August 1946 (or thereabouts), and Agent Carter Season 2 occurs in 1947 (not sure of the months yet).

While Carter working at a different SSR office with different agents in the One Shot, it can easily just be assumed she transferred to the office seen in the One Shot for several months, then rejoined the old team due to her skills (perhaps the events of both Season 1 and the One Shot led to her being reassigned to the old team).

Nothing that makes that impossible, is there?

Also, Souza mentions he'd been in LA for six months, so at least 6 months passes between end of Season 1 and beginning of Season 2. Also, based on the mention of it being "hottest day of the year", Summer of 1947 seems the best placement for AC Season 2. That would mean Souza didn't immediately transfer to LA after Season 1 (stuck around for at least 6 months at the old office, maybe due to his feelings for Carter).
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The short ends with Peggy clearing up her things because she's being transferred to Washington D.C. upon request from Howard and Tommy Lee Jones to run SHIELD. I don't think it's plausible that she quit SHIELD within six months and returned to the SSR (A wartime organization that's being phased out) and still managed to get back to a leading role in SHIELD by the 60s.

Additionally, on a less important thematic level, Season One is centred around her moving on from Steve whilst the One-Shot is firmly rooted in her missing and feeling the pain of losing him.

However that's not to say I think it should be removed just yet.
 
SexySnorlax said:
The short ends with Peggy clearing up her things because she's being transferred to Washington D.C. upon request from Howard and Tommy Lee Jones to run SHIELD. I don't think it's plausible that she quit SHIELD within six months and returned to the SSR (A wartime organization that's being phased out) and still managed to get back to a leading role in SHIELD by the 60s.
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I've always seen SHIELD as a transitional organization from the SSR, so its entirely possible that while the offer was made and Peggy transferred, she remained with the SSR until SHIELD officially started. Its not perfect but not outside realm of possibility either. This is partially backed up by the mention of the SSR being a wartime agency but the war being over and the entire Department of War being restructured... its been 2 years since the end of the WWII and the SSR still exists, so obviously the transition from SSR to SHIELD took a few years at least.

Additionally, on a less important thematic level, Season One is centred around her moving on from Steve whilst the One-Shot is firmly rooted in her missing and feeling the pain of losing him.

However that's not to say I think it should be removed just yet.
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I don't think it should be removed at all. It doesn't fit perfectly but isn't necessarily negated either.
 
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Just finished the first episode of AC Season 2... was that Gravitonium at the end?

Jarvis mentions in Episode 2 that he's been training in judo, boxing, etc since the events of New York (season 1) and mentions his wife has been his training partner for the past 12 months, which backs up the placement of Season 2 occurring in Summer 1947.

Loving the Easter Eggs too, from the "Tales of Suspense" film Whitney Frost starred in to the film she is currently making "The Woman with the Golden Face", lol.
 
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DIrishB said:
Just finished the first episode of AC Season 2... was that Gravitonium at the end?

Jarvis mentions in Episode 2 that he's been training in judo, boxing, etc since the events of New York (season 1) and mentions his wife has been his training partner for the past 12 months, which backs up the placement of Season 2 occurring in Summer 1947.
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It's Darkforce from SHIELD 1x19

From this interview: http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...-to-include-tie-in-to-doctor-strange-universe
Michele Fazekas: That's what Isodyne is, and what you'll learn is they were involved in the nuclear testing out in the desert when they were testing the, at the time they were calling it the atom bomb -- and one of these tests didn't go as expected. You'll learn more about that in Season 2, but they stumble upon what people in the Marvel Universe will know as Darkforce, but because they've never seen it before they just name it Zero Matter. That's our tie-in to the 'Doctor Strange' universe, and also to 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' because you've seen it in 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' as well
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From the Light in the Darkness
Phil Coulson: Marcus Daniels was an assistant at a physics lab where they were trying to harness the electrical power of something called "Darkforce". And nothing bad ever happens when you work with something called "Darkforce."
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And for references sake, Marcus Daniels is this guy: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dDa7Iz42eps
 
I doubt it. Graviton seems to be a lob of a story arc. Maybe Most Wanted?
 
They're on the blu-ray, so they must be important enough to be canon.

DIrishB said:
Not saying they need to draw out an explanation, but since both have some form of anti-gravity property, and both seem to be a viscous, mysterious form of matter. Would kind of make sense to link them, no?
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I think things are already linked enough. That was definitely the cult from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
 
wyokid said:
I think things are already linked enough. That was definitely the cult from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
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For the new season of Agent Carter, showrunners Tara Butters and Michelle Fazekas revealed during the panel that a clandestine anti-America group created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby in the 1960s would be front-and-center: the Secret Empire. Originally debuting in comic books back in 1966's Tales To Astonish #81, Fazekas said that a "version of them" would be the primary antagonists in the new season set in Los Angeles.
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Source:http://www.newsarama.com/25174-agen...carter-villains-for-new-seasons-revealed.html

In the comics, the Secret Empire is a subsidiary of Hydra, popularized during the Watergate scandal. In its most famous story, Cap stops them but discovers that their leader "Number One" (a clear SPECTRE reference) is Richard Nixon.
 
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DBZGTKOSDH said:
Do we have confirmation that the Ant-Man viral videos are canon?
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Considering they explain the events surrounding Scott Lang's imprisonment, and are included on the Bluray as special features (as wyo said), yes, they're most definitely canon.

The IM2/GotG short videos I don't consider canon since they don't expand the story in any way, whereas the Ant-Man shorts do.
 
wyokid said:
I think things are already linked enough. That was definitely the cult from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
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Sigh... think it through, man.

I'm not talking about some random character/group connection, but an otherworldly matter with amazing properties that break the laws of physics as we know them. Considering that applies to both the Darkforce and Gravitonium, as I said, there would be a certain logic in linking them. Sort of an effort to avoid numerous contrived origins for other things. I've always found its easier to buy into fictional tales with more logic to their connections instead of just happenstance and similarities (which essentially are just lazy repetitions of the sale plot device). I'd prefer they use a bit of imagination to tie it together (especially due to the obvious similarities) than just say, "Oh, nah, there's just two different versions of otherworldly matter that plays hopscotch with relativistic physics".

My point is, to me, it's just recycling the same idea, which is kind of lazy, instead of building on what's already been established in an imaginative way.
 
In agent Carter s2e2 Jarvis states that he took up physical training after he and Peggy met. He also stats that his wife has been his sparing partner for the past year. Summer 1947 seems to be fitting based on the evidence.
 
DIrishB said:
Sigh... think it through, man.

I'm not talking about some random character/group connection, but an otherworldly matter with amazing properties that break the laws of physics as we know them. Considering that applies to both the Darkforce and Gravitonium, as I said, there would be a certain logic in linking them. Sort of an effort to avoid numerous contrived origins for other things. I've always found its easier to buy into fictional tales with more logic to their connections instead of just happenstance and similarities (which essentially are just lazy repetitions of the sale plot device). I'd prefer they use a bit of imagination to tie it together (especially due to the obvious similarities) than just say, "Oh, nah, there's just two different versions of otherworldly matter that plays hopscotch with relativistic physics".

My point is, to me, it's just recycling the same idea, which is kind of lazy, instead of building on what's already been established in an imaginative way.
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Except Darkforce was introduced in The Only Light in the Darkness, season one of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. so why is the cult using both lazy? It sounds like what you are looking for to me. That could tie into Hellfire Club... Plus Darkforce could have different properties and effects still. We're only two episodes in.
 
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Bob_A_Mickelson said:
In agent Carter s2e2 Jarvis states that he took up physical training after he and Peggy met. He also stats that his wife has been his sparing partner for the past year. Summer 1947 seems to be fitting based on the evidence.
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Yup, I mentioned that on previous page I think. Also the heat wave and "Summer Classics" sign at the horse race confirm that.


wyokid said:
Except Darkforce was introduced in The Only Light in the Darkness, season one of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. so why is the cult using both lazy? It sounds like what you are looking for to me. That could tie into Hellfire Club... Plus Darkforce could have different properties and effects still. We're only two episodes in.
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I know when it was introduced. What difference does that make? Gravitonium was also introduced in AoS S1.

I didn't say the cult using both was lazy, I said using two very similar plot devices without logically linking them (and that link could very well be established if they chose, logically) is lazy.

We know Darkforce has different effects already. I acknowledge they're different, I'm saying they're similar enough (so far) that a link makes sense.

Also, I doubt there will be any reference or connection to the Hellfire Club, given the proposed Fox series focusing on that (even if it doesn't happen that indicates Fox was granted the TV rights for those characters from Marvel for a certain period of time, likely at least 1-3 years).
 
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wyokid said:
They're already linked though. The cult is the link.
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Please read my original post again about this. You seem to be completely missing my point:

DIrishB said:
Sigh... think it through, man.

I'm not talking about some random character/group connection, but an otherworldly matter with amazing properties that break the laws of physics as we know them. Considering that applies to both the Darkforce and Gravitonium, as I said, there would be a certain logic in linking them. Sort of an effort to avoid numerous contrived origins for other things. I've always found its easier to buy into fictional tales with more logic to their connections instead of just happenstance and similarities (which essentially are just lazy repetitions of the same plot device). I'd prefer they use a bit of imagination to tie it together (especially due to the obvious similarities) than just say, "Oh, nah, there's just two different versions of otherworldly matter that plays hopscotch with relativistic physics".

My point is, to me, it's just recycling the same idea, which is kind of lazy, instead of building on what's already been established in an imaginative way.
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How is Hydra a "random group" though? Them looking into strange stuff is their thing. I'm not getting it, you're right.
 
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