Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

[Agamotto]

Also, Zemo says he planned his revenge for "over a year" (meaning more than 365 days), and Charlie Spencer had decided to spend the summer in Sokovia, supporting that it is probably not earlier than May during Age of Ultron, therefore making sense with Civil War being in late June 2016, "more than a year" after Sokovia.

Knew I forgot something, thanks. Yeah, wasn't really trying to convince for a move to June, just explaining the reasoning we had behind that since it came up when talking about Inhumans.


Question though, which I've been meaning to ask. I have digital versions of all of the official canon comics, but the only hard copies I own at the moment are the TPbs for Iron Man: I Am Iron Man! and Marvel's The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week, and in both of those there is a timeline correction. In Iron Man: I Am Iron Man!, at the beginning of #1, text shows the narration from the Apogee award ceremony and says, in the digital version, that Tony took over the company at age 20, despite the film itself saying he was 21. However, in the TPb, it says "21". Marvel's The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week, also at the beginning, has the battle on the Valkyrie as "1943" in the digital version, but this was corrected to "1945" in the TPb.

I believe one or two people on here have some of the TPbs, and I wondered - Marvel's Captain America: The First Avenger Adaptation #1 labels the Stark Expo as "May 1942" and the final issue of Captain America: First Vengeance shows it as "1942" as well, both not matching the other evidence for it being 1943. Are these corrected in the TPbs? If anyone knows, I'd be grateful to find out.

 

[DIrishB]

Knew I forgot something, thanks. Yeah, wasn't really trying to convince for a move to June, just explaining the reasoning we had behind that since it came up when talking about Inhumans.


Question though, which I've been meaning to ask. I have digital versions of all of the official canon comics, but the only hard copies I own at the moment are the TPbs for Iron Man: I Am Iron Man! and Marvel's The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week, and in both of those there is a timeline correction. In Iron Man: I Am Iron Man!, at the beginning of #1, text shows the narration from the Apogee award ceremony and says, in the digital version, that Tony took over the company at age 20, despite the film itself saying he was 21. However, in the TPb, it says "21". Marvel's The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week, also at the beginning, has the battle on the Valkyrie as "1943" in the digital version, but this was corrected to "1945" in the TPb.

I believe one or two people on here have some of the TPbs, and I wondered - Marvel's Captain America: The First Avenger Adaptation #1 labels the Stark Expo as "May 1942" and the final issue of Captain America: First Vengeance shows it as "1942" as well, both not matching the other evidence for it being 1943. Are these corrected in the TPbs? If anyone knows, I'd be grateful to find out.

Thanks for explaining, I'm enjoying this synergy and your contributions! Really helpful.

I have both those TPBs. Neither of them corrects the 1942 dates to reflect 1943 as the film itself does. I have the first printings, though, so it's possible they were corrected in later printings, though I doubt it.

 

[DIrishB]

Wondering if these are supposed to be canon or just "inspired by" non canon tales. I'm not going to add these yet until we get clear word (assuming we do, which we may not) on whether they're official MCU canon or "inspired by" non-canon.

A threat has emerged from the cosmos: Thanos. A ruthless warlord who plans to collect all six Infinity Stones. Joined by his formidable allies, he will be near-unstoppable at achieving his goal. The Avengers, the Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange and Spider-Man must join forces and fight side by side to stop Thanos, while the fate of the Earth and the universe lays in the balance.

This book features the stories of three of the six Stones as The Collector recovers from his run in with the Guardians of the Galaxy. Desperate to repopulate his vast collection of curios, he must contend with his brother, The Grandmaster, who comes to him after facing Thor and the Hulk. The pair squares off in a night of one-upmanship and speculate on the only things in the universe that would return The Collector to his former glory--the Infinity Stones.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0316482730/?tag=tcbcom-20

A threat has emerged from the cosmos: Thanos. A ruthless warlord who plans to collect all six Infinity Stones. Joined by his formidable allies, he will be near-unstoppable at achieving his goal. The Avengers, the Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange and Spider-Man must join forces and fight side by side to stop Thanos, while the fate of the Earth and the universe lays in the balance.

As the stage is set for Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War, each Super Hero involved has no way of knowing how their lives will be forever changed. Captain America, Thor, Doctor Strange, and the Guardians of the Galaxy all have a role to play in the coming cosmic war--but fresh off their own independent adventures, they'll have to come together as Thanos prepares his conquest.

Told from unique perspectives, each hero finds their stories accelerating down the road to Infinity War!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316482919/?tag=tcbcom-20

The Heroes Journey sounds like it may just be a retelling of some of the solo films, so that one may not count.

 

[DIrishB]

Updated for AoS 5x15, whose flashbacks help specifically date the current episodes, specifically the mentions of Malick's capture by SHIELD, placing that portion labeled 2 years ago between AoS 3x17 and 3x18, which indicates the past couple episodes are now in early 2018 (I'm going with January since 3x13 dated itself as early December, 2017, and not too much time passed between 3x13 and 3x14, though a few weeks passing certainly makes sense).

 

[Agamotto]

Thanks for explaining, I'm enjoying this synergy and your contributions! Really helpful.

I have both those TPBs. Neither of them corrects the 1942 dates to reflect 1943 as the film itself does. I have the first printings, though, so it's possible they were corrected in later printings, though I doubt it.

Thank you, for the compliment and for letting me know about the comics! Shame it wasn't corrected.

Updated for AoS 5x15, whose flashbacks help specifically date the current episodes, specifically the mentions of Malick's capture by SHIELD, placing that portion labeled 2 years ago between AoS 3x17 and 3x18, which indicates the past couple episodes are now in early 2018 (I'm going with January since 5x13 dated itself as early December, 2017, and not too much time passed between 5x13 and 5x14, though a few weeks passing certainly makes sense).

5x12 had the 12-06-2017 date. Yeah, it makes sense that it's now January. A week or two between 5x12 and 5x13 and a week or two between 5x13 and 5x14. In 5x14, we see that Yo-Yo's arm stumps have healed over, which, from a cursory Google, should take at least 4 weeks, taking us from the dismemberment and surgery on December 4th to roughly January 1st-ish minimum. And then 5x15 a couple of days later, early January 2018, refers to early 2016 as "2 years ago". Minor note, the "6 months ago" events have been placed in June 2017, but assuming we are now in January, that should be July.

 

[DIrishB]

Thank you, for the compliment and for letting me know about the comics! Shame it wasn't corrected.

5x12 had the 12-06-2017 date. Yeah, it makes sense that it's now January. A week or two between 5x12 and 5x13 and a week or two between 5x13 and 5x14. In 5x14, we see that Yo-Yo's arm stumps have healed over, which, from a cursory Google, should take at least 4 weeks, taking us from the dismemberment and surgery on December 4th to roughly January 1st-ish minimum. And then 5x15 a couple of days later, early January 2018, refers to early 2016 as "2 years ago". Minor note, the "6 months ago" events have been placed in June 2017, but assuming we are now in January, that should be July.

I'll fix for that.

 

[DIrishB]

I've tentatively added the Avengers - Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest - Volume One: Beginning and Avengers - Infinity War: The Cosmic Quest - Volume Two: ???, as well as the Avengers - Infinity War: The Heroes' Journey novels. According to the author of The Cosmic Quest, at least those two are MCU canon (again, according to him, we have to see if that's the official word).

https://www.facebook.com/brandontsniderauthor/posts/2160725880849247

Having read the kindle preview for The Heroes' Journey, it occurs in between scenes of the films offering new material, and is also listed under the banner of Road to Avengers - Infinity War, which is very similar to how Star Wars had their official prequel tie ins for the recent saga films (Journey to The Force Awakens and Journey to the Last Jedi prequel and tie-in novels and comics).

(Click the Look Inside option to read the first few pages):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0316482919/?tag=tcbcom-20

I do believe these are official canon and the MCU's first foray into spin off novels. The timing makes sense, given the massive marketing synergy of Infinity War, as it also does in terms of opening door to telling new prequel/interquel/sequel stories that are official MCU canon featuring the big names (Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Hulk) but without the huge production costs of the films or TV series. It seems they're patterning after the Star Wars model (which makes sense as both operate under the Disney umbrella, especially in terms of merchandising).

 

[Craig]

So AOS last night was 2 days after the previous episode. (Very interesting stinger).

There's only 2, maybe 3 episodes before IW. And it looks like next week picks up immediately after "Inside Voices", unless we have a big contradiction, I'm guessing IW is going be mid-February.

 

[Zorkel567]

I just purchased and downloaded The Cosmic Quest Volume 1, and plan to start reading it soon. I'm leaning towards it being canon as well. The author seems to believe it is, and it seems set to take into account both GotG and Thor: Ragnarok. I think this is a great opportunity for the MCU to explore secondary characters who'll never lead their own film, but might still have interesting stories to tell, such as the Collector and Grandmaster, as seen in this book. Hopefully this will sell well and we'll see further tie-in novels released down the line.

I also noticed interestingly that a little father down the page, the author confirmed, "Brandon T. Snider: Two volumes. One in space with Grandmaster & the Collector. One on Earth with a different cast. Second volume is out in the Fall."

I'm curious as to who the other volume is going to follow. Hopefully there will be more word on it soon.

 

[Craig]

 

[DIrishB]

Updated for AoS 5x16 and Ant-Man and the Wasp Prelude #2.

So AOS last night was 2 days after the previous episode. (Very interesting stinger).

There's only 2, maybe 3 episodes before IW. And it looks like next week picks up immediately after "Inside Voices", unless we have a big contradiction, I'm guessing IW is going be mid-February.

That assumes there will be a direct crossover with Infinity War... do we know yet if there will be? Looking at promo for next week's 5x17, as you said it picks up immediately after 5x16, and the synopsis for 5x18 indicates it likely follows soon after 5x17. There's no synopsis for the April 27 episode of AoS yet, so we'll see.

 

[DIrishB]

I just purchased and downloaded The Cosmic Quest Volume 1, and plan to start reading it soon. I'm leaning towards it being canon as well. The author seems to believe it is, and it seems set to take into account both GotG and Thor: Ragnarok. I think this is a great opportunity for the MCU to explore secondary characters who'll never lead their own film, but might still have interesting stories to tell, such as the Collector and Grandmaster, as seen in this book. Hopefully this will sell well and we'll see further tie-in novels released down the line.

I also noticed interestingly that a little father down the page, the author confirmed, "Brandon T. Snider: Two volumes. One in space with Grandmaster & the Collector. One on Earth with a different cast. Second volume is out in the Fall."

I'm curious as to who the other volume is going to follow. Hopefully there will be more word on it soon.

Definitely let me know any details mentioned in terms of if they mention how long ago the events of Thor - Ragnarok or first GotG film were. Or any other timeline related details to help with placement. I'll probably pick it up in a few weeks closer to the film's release.

 

[Craig]

Updated for AoS 5x16 and Ant-Man and the Wasp Prelude #2.




That assumes there will be a direct crossover with Infinity War... do we know yet if there will be? Looking at promo for next week's 5x17, as you said it picks up immediately after 5x16, and the synopsis for 5x18 indicates it likely follows soon after 5x17. There's no synopsis for the April 27 episode of AoS yet, so we'll see.

Good point. It might not catch up to IW until 5x22 for all we know. We'll see. Seasons 1-3 always intersected with any movies that came out. The only time they haven't done it was with Guardians 2 for obvious reasons.

 

[eloesch289]

Wouldn't the opening of Daredevil 2x3 be a flashback (the nun cleaning Matt's wounds)?

 

[Craig]

When does this take place? Lol.

[video=youtube_share;hzMzFGgmQOc]https://youtu.be/hzMzFGgmQOc[/video]

 

[DIrishB]

Good point. It might not catch up to IW until 5x22 for all we know. We'll see. Seasons 1-3 always intersected with any movies that came out. The only time they haven't done it was with Guardians 2 for obvious reasons.

Yeah they've been a lot more subtle with the crossover elements in recent years, with the mentions of Hong Kong (referencing Doctor Strange) in early Season 4 and the Asgardian in the city (referencing Thor - Ragnarok) in mid Season 5. Given the scale of the events of Infinity War, it'd be odd if it didn't have some element of crossover or reference. I think it's likely it will, just saying it may not be a direct tie in like the early seasons did with Thor - The Dark World or Captain America - Winter Soldier, or even Civil War.

Wouldn't the opening of Daredevil 2x3 be a flashback (the nun cleaning Matt's wounds)?

Wasn't that presented as a dream/nightmare? I can't remember specifically cuz it's been awhile since I watched it, but didn't something weird happen at end (denoting it was a dream) that caused Matt to wake up?

 

[Zpdedoda]

Yeah they've been a lot more subtle with the crossover elements in recent years, with the mentions of Hong Kong (referencing Doctor Strange) in early Season 4 and the Asgardian in the city (referencing Thor - Ragnarok) in mid Season 5. Given the scale of the events of Infinity War, it'd be odd if it didn't have some element of crossover or reference. I think it's likely it will, just saying it may not be a direct tie in like the early seasons did with Thor - The Dark World or Captain America - Winter Soldier, or even Civil War.

And Ultron, AoS basically set up the entire premise for the opening scene of that

 

[Bwdelano]

Seeing as season 5 is designed as the final season, I would actually be surprised if there is a crossover with IW. If the rumored season 6 happens, I would expect it to happen in the fallout of IW if it can, with flashbacks to Captain Marvel stuff, setting that up as Clark Gregg will be in that movie.

Also, I speculate that if AoS season 6 happens, we won't see it until 2019 as a flagship series for the Disney streaming service.

 

[DIrishB]

Seeing as season 5 is designed as the final season, I would actually be surprised if there is a crossover with IW. If the rumored season 6 happens, I would expect it to happen in the fallout of IW if it can, with flashbacks to Captain Marvel stuff, setting that up as Clark Gregg will be in that movie.

Also, I speculate that if AoS season 6 happens, we won't see it until 2019 as a flagship series for the Disney streaming service.

Well, while it hasnt been officially announced, Agents of SHIELD getting a sixth season seems to be a sure thing according to industry insiders.

I do expect they'll deal with aftermath of events of Infinity War in Season 6, and it would be cool to find a way to tie in Coulson's appearance in Captain Marvel (though since that's set a good 25 years in past it can't be a direct crossover, but instead a returning character or plot point from the film).

That said, AoS Season 6 will almost definitely air on ABC. ABC is who funds the production costs and has contracts for it, so they'll be first to air. Disney's streaming service will likely get contract to air reruns, but I have a feeling that streaming service will have their own shows to lean on (from the rumored live action Star Wars series to, odds are, at least one or two new MCU set shows).

 

[Craig]

Definitely let me know any details mentioned in terms of if they mention how long ago the events of Thor - Ragnarok or first GotG film were. Or any other timeline related details to help with placement. I'll probably pick it up in a few weeks closer to the film's release.

I finished it just now. It mostly sucks. It's an undefined amount of time after Ragnarok and it makes a point to not refer to any specific passage of time when recapping past events.

However:

Spoiler

while this is not confirmed, a new character who makes it a point to keep up such things (and is a Star-Lord fanboy) says that he heard that Thanos has already taken the Power Stone from the Nova Corps. If this is true, it would place the book right before IW, if not at some point during the first act.