Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

[Craig]

Yes, in Season 1 they show the height chart in her house stops at 14 and they talk about how the family did it as a tradition. Kilgrave in AKA WWJD? also says something along the lines of, "Just imagine, 14-year-old Jessica spying on the neighbours." So she was 14 at the accident, so she's about 19 in AKA I Want Your Cray Cray. She does also mention that she's in college and then that she's dropped out, so that fits.

Cool, thanks. So she was 19-20, depending on her birthday. And was either using a fake ID or going places that didn't card.

 

[Craig]

 

[DIrishB]

More proof of JJ in April/May. My friend who lived in NY for many years noticed a shot around the 42-43 minute mark of episode 1

Spoiler

right after Jeri learns about her ALS.

The transition shot is of the Empire State Building with green lights. They change the lights of that building almost daily, but last year on May 1st, it was Green in honor of Philosophy's "Hope & Grace" Initiative & Mental Health Month. So that is right on the money.

Nice!

Was it ever said how old Jessica was when the car crash happened? I noticed she was old enough to get into bars and clubs in the 2005 flashbacks, so she'd have to have been 15-16, unless she was using a fake.

Yes, in Season 1 they show the height chart in her house stops at 14 and they talk about how the family did it as a tradition. Kilgrave in AKA WWJD? also says something along the lines of, "Just imagine, 14-year-old Jessica spying on the neighbours." So she was 14 at the accident, so she's about 19 in AKA I Want Your Cray Cray. She does also mention that she's in college and then that she's dropped out, so that fits.

Yep, spot on Agamotto.

Cool, thanks. So she was 19-20, depending on her birthday. And was either using a fake ID or going places that didn't card.

More likely they weren't carded since they were there with the celebrity Patsy. Entourage's of celebrities often don't face same scrutiny the "normal folk" do.

Lol. It really can't...

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Has anyone ever gone over this?

 

[Craig]

More likely they weren't carded since they were there with the celebrity Patsy. Entourage's of celebrities often don't face same scrutiny the "normal folk" do.

Right. She was also drinking at the bar waiting on Sterling towards the end. No big deal, not impossible.

 

[DIrishB]

Right. She was also drinking at the bar waiting on Sterling towards the end. No big deal, not impossible.

Oh that's right, forgot about that. Yeah, can just assume she had a fake ID or maybe knew the bartender since it was a local place or something.

Has anyone ever gone over this?

Yeah, it offers nothing new. Same conflicting info. There are basically two choices: take the Homecoming "8 years later" thing as true, or ALL the other evidence from various sources that conflict with it, as that thread lays out.

Using Occam's Razor, it seems easier to ignore the single instance of Homecoming's dating than to ignore the numerous others in previous films and the spin off TV shows, which only results in continuity breaking errors and problems that can't be fixed (again as that thread alludes to, specifically mentioning events in AoS Season 3).

There's just no way to salvage the 8 years later/2 months later placements for Homecoming.

 

[fuzzyfoot]

Yeah, it offers nothing new. Same conflicting info. There are basically two choices: take the Homecoming "8 years later" thing as true, or ALL the other evidence from various sources that conflict with it, as that thread lays out.

Using Occam's Razor, it seems easier to ignore the single instance of Homecoming's dating than to ignore the numerous others in previous films and the spin off TV shows, which only results in continuity breaking errors and problems that can't be fixed (again as that thread alludes to, specifically mentioning events in AoS Season 3).

There's just no way to salvage the 8 years later/2 months later placements for Homecoming.

Yeah I choose to ignore it as well, but I wish Toomes hadn't also said '8 years' later on in the film. It's never an issue to my friends who aren't interested in all the subtle stuff in the films as we are...so it's just a me thing, so I also don't bring it up to them.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Yeah I choose to ignore it as well, but I wish Toomes hadn't also said '8 years' later on in the film. It's never an issue to my friends who aren't interested in all the subtle stuff in the films as we are...so it's just a me thing, so I also don't bring it up to them.

Yea they just had to cement the mistake with a line of dialogue! So frustrating. How in the world did this huge mistake make it all the way to the final cut of the film with nobody realizing how much of an error it is? Mind blown.

 

[Lebnyx]

Yea they just had to cement the mistake with a line of dialogue! So frustrating. How in the world did this huge mistake make it all the way to the final cut of the film with nobody realizing how much of an error it is? Mind blown.

I think I know what their reasoning for it is:

They probably wanted to keep Iron Man happening in 2008, and keeping in mind the official timeline's 6 months between Iron Man and Iron Man 2 (with the latter movie taking place on the following calendar year) and a year between Fury's Big Week and The Avengers, means that The Avengers would be in 2010.

Feige has said that they're planning on making one Spider-Man movie for each year of high school (10th, 11th, and 12th grade). Homecoming 2 comes out 2 years after the first one, so if they continue coming out 2 years after each other, Homecoming 3 will come out in 2021.

If Homecoming 3 takes place in real time of the movie's release date, then that means Homecoming, since it marks the beginning of his 10th grade in high school, would take place in fall of 2018. I think the producers also came to that conclusion as well, since there were Stark Expo 2018 posters during set visits (which weren't in the film).

This disregards the implied placement of fall 2017 (due to Aaron Davis), but there have been prop contradictions before, so there will probably be other contradictions in the next movie.

Other things supporting this are Happy having the ring since 2008 (Iron Man's release date) and Cap being frozen for 65 years (1945-2010), therefore lining up exactly with 8 years between The Avengers and Homecoming (2010-2018).

They could have pushed the movies from Iron Man to The Avengers forward a few years, or pushed Peter's graduation back a few years, so as to not have any contradictions, but oh well.

 

[Craig]

Has anyone ever gone over this?

The guy who wrote the big response is an idiot, especially once he gets to Iron Man 3 placement. I could only bare to skim once he got to the TV part. Silliness.

Yeah I choose to ignore it as well, but I wish Toomes hadn't also said '8 years' later on in the film. It's never an issue to my friends who aren't interested in all the subtle stuff in the films as we are...so it's just a me thing, so I also don't bring it up to them.

I personally just imagine that Toomes had been in business for himself 4 years prior to Avengers. So when he says "8 years and no problems from the feds or those bozos outta Avengers tower..." he means he had 4 good years as a legit contractor, a brief hiccup with damage control, then another successful 4 years as an illegal tech dealer.

Yea they just had to cement the mistake with a line of dialogue! So frustrating. How in the world did this huge mistake make it all the way to the final cut of the film with nobody realizing how much of an error it is? Mind blown.

Pretty sure it had to do with the childish picture Liz drew of the Avengers in the opening flashback. 8 years ago makes her about 9, 4 years ago makes her like 13.

 

[Craig]

Finished JJ season 2. They definitely make it seem like it's post-Civil War. More Marvel TV evidence of CW/HC being in 2016.

I think I know what their reasoning for it is:

They probably wanted to keep Iron Man happening in 2008, and keeping in mind the official timeline's 6 months between Iron Man and Iron Man 2 (with the latter movie taking place on the following calendar year) and a year between Fury's Big Week and The Avengers, means that The Avengers would be in 2010.

Feige has said that they're planning on making one Spider-Man movie for each year of high school (10th, 11th, and 12th grade). Homecoming 2 comes out 2 years after the first one, so if they continue coming out 2 years after each other, Homecoming 3 will come out in 2021.

If Homecoming 3 takes place in real time of the movie's release date, then that means Homecoming, since it marks the beginning of his 10th grade in high school, would take place in fall of 2018. I think the producers also came to that conclusion as well, since there were Stark Expo 2018 posters during set visits (which weren't in the film).

This disregards the implied placement of fall 2017 (due to Aaron Davis), but there have been prop contradictions before, so there will probably be other contradictions in the next movie.

Other things supporting this are Happy having the ring since 2008 (Iron Man's release date) and Cap being frozen for 65 years (1945-2010), therefore lining up exactly with 8 years between The Avengers and Homecoming (2010-2018).

They could have pushed the movies from Iron Man to The Avengers forward a few years, or pushed Peter's graduation back a few years, so as to not have any contradictions, but oh well.

In the scenario where I were to accept the HC time stamps (and totally ignore the TV shows) I would disagree with 2018. Especially since all signs point to IW being early 2018.

Fall 2017 makes it close enough to 7.5 years later to work. Using that timeline, he would graduate May 2020. So the hypothetical 3rd film would be 2021, so real world release would only be one year ahead of MCU time. Very easy to work around, just as it would be to go with our timeline and be 2 years off.

 

[Lebnyx]

In the scenario where I were to accept the HC time stamps (and totally ignore the TV shows) I would disagree with 2018. Especially since all signs point to IW being early 2018.

It depends on what the official timeline or future films say. If they decide to keep the 8 year timespan in mind for future movies, then Infinity War can still be 3 years after Age of Ultron and 2 years after Civil War, just that the years they take place in won't necessarily be their release date, and the placements for the TV shows will probably be changed to line up with the movies.

If they say in Infinity War that, for example, the first two Guardians movies were 4 years ago, then it can take place in 2018 or 2019, but it depends on what time of the school year Homecoming 2 takes place.

Fall 2017 makes it close enough to 7.5 years later to work. Using that timeline, he would graduate May 2020. So the hypothetical 3rd film would be 2021, so real world release would only be one year ahead of MCU time. Very easy to work around, just as it would be to go with our timeline and be 2 years off.

I agree, but again, it depends on whether the official timeline keeps Iron Man 3 six months after The Avengers. If they decide to keep it on Christmas 2012, then maybe they'll have it and The Avengers on separate years.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because, if we follow the Phase One timeline only, a fall 2010 placement for The Avengers seems like a more likely placement (once again, if they keep the 8 year timespan), meaning Homecoming would be closer to 8 exact years after it, rather than 7.5 years.

 

[Lebnyx]

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"When we last saw these characters in Civil War it's been probably 2 or 3 years that have passed (...)

 

[Craig]

Suck it, Homecoming: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/aven...uestions-answered-by-the-russos-a158696?cp=11

Anthony Russo: "We always do everything based on when the last movie came out."

Joe Russo: "It'll be roughly 2 years."

 

[iammattie]

[video=youtube;QwievZ1Tx-8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwievZ1Tx-8[/video]

New IW trailer for anyone who's been living under a rock today.

 

[Craig]

I caught no great timeline indicator from AOS tonight. Yo-yo is still pretty bad off, so not much time has passed. Coulson quips about "tidings of comfort and joy", which further solidifies December.

I think that's it.

 

[selfishmisery]

Why is the Hela vs Valkyries flashback not in the timeline?

 

[eloesch289]

Rewatching the first Thor, why isn't Odin finding baby Loki included at the beginning of the timeline with the other flashback stuff?

 

[marioxb]

The guy who wrote the big response is an idiot, especially once he gets to Iron Man 3 placement. I could only bare to skim once he got to the TV part. Silliness.



I personally just imagine that Toomes had been in business for himself 4 years prior to Avengers. So when he says "8 years and no problems from the feds or those bozos outta Avengers tower..." he means he had 4 good years as a legit contractor, a brief hiccup with damage control, then another successful 4 years as an illegal tech dealer.



Pretty sure it had to do with the childish picture Liz drew of the Avengers in the opening flashback. 8 years ago makes her about 9, 4 years ago makes her like 13.

Yeah, probably but that's stupid. I'm 42 and I can't even draw half as well as that. I see no problem with that drawing being done by a 13 year old. Adults draw superhero pics all the time too. When I was 13, I was DEFINITELY a kid (and still am), watching and recording Super Mario Bros. Super Show every day back in 89. If I drew a picture that good at 13, my mom woulda loved it!

 

[Craig]

Yeah, probably but that's stupid. I'm 42 and I can't even draw half as well as that. I see no problem with that drawing being done by a 13 year old. Adults draw superhero pics all the time too. When I was 13, I was DEFINITELY a kid (and still am), watching and recording Super Mario Bros. Super Show every day back in 89. If I drew a picture that good at 13, my mom woulda loved it!

I can relate, but we're nerds lol.

Liz was a super-attractive, super-popular kid. In my experience, those kinds of kids wouldn't be caught dead creating a crayon drawing of superheroes by middle school. 9 is a much more innocent age than 13.

Not justifying the desolation of the timeline over something this trivial, but I could see a writer just slapping 8 years there without considering the rest of the MCU. Doesn't explain how it got past Feige and the rest, but it's looking like IW might trump it anyways.