DIrishB
The Timeline Guy
That's right.
You sure?
So, its off by at least a day.
Looks like moving the Incredible Hulk entries up by a day will fix it.
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That's right.
You sure?
So, its off by at least a day.
Looks like moving the Incredible Hulk entries up by a day will fix it.
The mid-credits scene was definitely soon after. No hard evidence, but probably no more than a few days.
The post-credit scene has to be at least a few months later, as per the Infinity War Prelude comic. For all we know it was mere days before Infinity War. We'll see.
Yes.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3kgDwlmwS...J6c/_itXQUl2Ibk/s320/Iron+Man+2+Hulk+News.jpg
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DIrishB
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Sigh, you missed what I put in quote in above post. I mean, obviously those scenes crossover, my point is someone suggested alterations a few months back and I followed their suggestions, but I guess they overlooked how the Iron man 2 debrief scene and IH university battle scenes are no longer on same day (look at June 2 and June 3, I marked those scenes). When I asked "You sure?", I was asking if you were certain the layout/Order was right. It's definitely not, least pertaining to those sections.
Check carefully in quote above with the pertaining timeline info, I specifically labeled the portions that denote the debrief scene from IM2 and the battle at the university in IH. They're off by a day. Looks like we have to move the IH entries up by a day to align those events as occurring on same day/around same time and that should fix it without any issues.
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My bad, got confused. I can't currently match up run times on my blu rays, but this break down seems accurate.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/2usvfr/ever_wonder_how_iron_man_2_thor_and_the/
iammattie
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So, why is Daredevil 2x06 set months before 2x07 when the dialogue indicates The People Vs. Frank Castle starts in a week from the end of 06?
Because in the first few episodes, it is the middle of summer (with a hard date in one of the episodes showing it takes place on July 21). The later part of the season takes place in November/December, so the assumption was made that it took them months to find jurors (so as to put enough of a time-span so that the season ends in Christmas).
DIrishB
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No worries. That link is helpful. Honestly I think I just need to love the IH entries up by a day and that'll solve the problem.
Exactly. There is literally only one possible spot to insert a break point in the season and that's it. And that break is required since the series begins mid heat wave in first episode (obviously during summer or late summer) and the following episodes occur one right after the other, as do the episodes in second part of season.
There's no logical way to stretch those thirteen episodes from summer or late summer all the way to December (by final episodes).
So, we just assume that the jury selection process was intentionally dragged out by Matt and Foggy, to give themselves time to prepare their defense, which in a case with the deck as stacked against their defendant as it was, they'd need. Plus, such trials never really occur that quickly.
So, the idea is the trial proceedings DID start the next week, it's just those proceedings involved weeks and weeks or months of jury selection or stays.
It's not perfect, but it seemed more logical than a heat wave in NYC in late November or early December.
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The scene in Oakland depends on if the buildings T'Challa bought were abandoned or still had people living in them when he bought them. You can't move people out of apartment buildings in a few days.
RocketRacoon
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Is this anything in Civil War that specifically states the Peter is in his freshman year?
I dunno. He just said he bought them, I didn't notice any construction/renovations going on. That being said, 3 large real estate transactions like that don't happen over night. So it might have been over a week later.
I don't think so in the actual movie. Pretty sure Feige and/or the Russos (or Markus/McFeely) repeatedly said so in interviews. Or maybe they said he 14, which normally makes you a Freshman and would line up with Homecoming being his Sophomore year/15 y.o.
I'll look into it.
http://time.com/4312912/captain-america-civil-war-stephen-mcfeely-christopher-markus/
He is still 15 in Homecoming, which takes place that fall. Grade 10 (Homecoming) is ages 15-16, and grade 9 (Civil War) is ages 14-15.
Therefore, he is a freshman in Civil War.
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Going by our timeline here, yes. But we ignore both time tags in Homecoming.
In the wonky Homecoming timeline, Civil War was August 2017, which means it was the beginning of his Sophomore year. If we could prove that he was in 9th grade in Civil War, it would fully debunk the "two months later" stamp.
Homecoming has prop evidence for being placed in either September (September 14 decathlon poster, September 13-14 name tag, September 23 homecoming ticket) and October (October 13-15 decahtlon poster).
If Homecoming started in early September (Peter quitting band practice 6 weeks ago wouldn't contradict this, since there are schools that do rehearse during summer), Civil War could be in late June (slightly over two months) and Peter's algebra exam could be one of his finals.
If he's in 10th grade in Homecoming and in 9th grade in Civil War, it doesn't necessarily contradict "2 months later". Though I'm not saying to change anything. Maybe the official timeline that will allegedly come out will say something about this.
They definitely have the flexibility to go either way with it, especially with the September/October murkiness.
Although I remember an interview with Eric Carroll where he said their then-current script (this was like April last year) had Homecoming being 5 months after Civil War, and that would absolutely make it his Freshman year. Wonder why they changed it...
Although I remember an interview with Eric Carroll where he said their then-current script (this was like April last year) had Homecoming being 5 months after Civil War, and that would absolutely make it his Freshman year. Wonder why they changed it...
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Exactly. There is literally only one possible spot to insert a break point in the season and that's it. And that break is required since the series begins mid heat wave in first episode (obviously during summer or late summer) and the following episodes occur one right after the other, as do the episodes in second part of season.
There's no logical way to stretch those thirteen episodes from summer or late summer all the way to December (by final episodes).
So, we just assume that the jury selection process was intentionally dragged out by Matt and Foggy, to give themselves time to prepare their defense, which in a case with the deck as stacked against their defendant as it was, they'd need. Plus, such trials never really occur that quickly.
So, the idea is the trial proceedings DID start the next week, it's just those proceedings involved weeks and weeks or months of jury selection or stays.
It's not perfect, but it seemed more logical than a heat wave in NYC in late November or early December.
This may have been discussed prior, but I'm at S2E13 of Daredevil finally, and this still isn't sitting right with me. I wasn't taking exhaustive notes while watching, so I can't point to the specific episodes, but a handful of things did pop out to me.
On top of the "Next week" comment I've already mentioned, we're told early on by Claire that her run-in with Luke (this occurs in Jessica Jones) was within the last month or so (I can't remember the exact line.), Then when Matt meets with Wilson in prison, Fisk states he was put away "months ago". The current timeline has that at a year currently. Hogarth then mentions in her meeting with Foggy that "if the past few months have been any indicator" she's gonna need people who think outside the box (or something to that effect.) Maybe the line works on a technicality since Hogarth could be talking about just the events of JJ season 1 and DDS2 but with those placed 8 months away it seems like a stretch, and with Fisk's comment about his incarceration it feels like the time period ought to be even smaller.
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After watching BP, it seems the final post-credit's scene could take place anywhere from days to years after the ending of the film. If we assume 2018 is when IW will be, that scene could take place moments before IW.
Hi guys, I'm BEJT from the MCU wiki who passed on the message through 64SuperNintendo recently.
My account had been pending for months so I tried again, and this username was very randomly chosen - it was just me thinking, "Err, something timeline-related... Time Stone... Eye of Agamotto... Agamotto?" This account just got approved though, and I'm happy to join the conversation, which I've been checking for quite a while. I'm not in any hurry to suddenly put across every single point I have and bombard you all - frankly, it's too much work for me as well. But over the next few weeks/months I might occasionally drop a note.
If I could start off with one, for example, though:
You've placed the massacre of the Castle family on April 14, 2015. However, that's not quite right.
This is the dialogue from Kinbaku:
Ellison picks up a newspaper.
Ellison: "April 14th. When was the Castle family murdered?"
Karen: "Well, I figure it's gotta be sometime that week, right?"
Ellison: "You know, I cannot remember my my kids' birthdays, but violent, soul-sucking events are just seared into my brain. Figures, right?"
Karen: "Ah, yes, yes."
Ellison: "Okay, gang-on-gang violence. No civilians were reported injured, so nobody cared. It took me a week to get this in the paper. Here. Three gangs, Central Park, midday. They shot each other to ****. It was a total massacre. Mexican Cartel, Dogs of Hell -"
Karen: "Kitchen Irish."
Ellison: "... Kitchen Irish."
So, Ellison got the article published on April 14th, he would have got approval on April 13th, and he says that was a week after the massacre, placing it around April 6th.
When Frank tells his story in Penny and Dime, he explains that he reunited with his daughter at her school. However, the next day they were in the park which, as we have just been told in that dialogue above, was midday. That would suggest that it is now the weekend, but with the day before being a weekday, this means he gets back on a Friday, and the massacre is on a Saturday.
The MCU does often show days of the week that do not match the date as they do in the real world, but there is no consistency to the offset. Like, there's no link such as "All Saturdays in the real world are actually Sundays in the MCU, everything's one day of the week later" - there's no consistency to the mistakes. But ultimately, things like this have led us at the wiki to go with the days of the week being the same in the MCU and real world.
With that said, the closest Saturday to April 6, 2015 is Saturday, April 4, 2015. So, the massacre would be April 4th and then 9 days (just over "a week") later Ellison got approval to print an article about it.
If you choose not to go with the days of the week being the same in the MCU as the real world, still, it shouldn't be placed on April 14th.
Hope to be of help.
And 64SuperNintendo has also passed on some other things from me recently, like the time zones in Captain America: Civil War.
My account had been pending for months so I tried again, and this username was very randomly chosen - it was just me thinking, "Err, something timeline-related... Time Stone... Eye of Agamotto... Agamotto?" This account just got approved though, and I'm happy to join the conversation, which I've been checking for quite a while. I'm not in any hurry to suddenly put across every single point I have and bombard you all - frankly, it's too much work for me as well. But over the next few weeks/months I might occasionally drop a note.
If I could start off with one, for example, though:
You've placed the massacre of the Castle family on April 14, 2015. However, that's not quite right.
This is the dialogue from Kinbaku:
Ellison picks up a newspaper.
Ellison: "April 14th. When was the Castle family murdered?"
Karen: "Well, I figure it's gotta be sometime that week, right?"
Ellison: "You know, I cannot remember my my kids' birthdays, but violent, soul-sucking events are just seared into my brain. Figures, right?"
Karen: "Ah, yes, yes."
Ellison: "Okay, gang-on-gang violence. No civilians were reported injured, so nobody cared. It took me a week to get this in the paper. Here. Three gangs, Central Park, midday. They shot each other to ****. It was a total massacre. Mexican Cartel, Dogs of Hell -"
Karen: "Kitchen Irish."
Ellison: "... Kitchen Irish."
So, Ellison got the article published on April 14th, he would have got approval on April 13th, and he says that was a week after the massacre, placing it around April 6th.
When Frank tells his story in Penny and Dime, he explains that he reunited with his daughter at her school. However, the next day they were in the park which, as we have just been told in that dialogue above, was midday. That would suggest that it is now the weekend, but with the day before being a weekday, this means he gets back on a Friday, and the massacre is on a Saturday.
The MCU does often show days of the week that do not match the date as they do in the real world, but there is no consistency to the offset. Like, there's no link such as "All Saturdays in the real world are actually Sundays in the MCU, everything's one day of the week later" - there's no consistency to the mistakes. But ultimately, things like this have led us at the wiki to go with the days of the week being the same in the MCU and real world.
With that said, the closest Saturday to April 6, 2015 is Saturday, April 4, 2015. So, the massacre would be April 4th and then 9 days (just over "a week") later Ellison got approval to print an article about it.
If you choose not to go with the days of the week being the same in the MCU as the real world, still, it shouldn't be placed on April 14th.
Hope to be of help.
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Don't waste your money on IW Prelude #2. It leads directly into the Strange scene in Ragnarok, and is just Wong clumsily recounting every recent incident regarding a Stone. Nothing offered about the Soul Stone, other than the fact that no one knows anything about it and, if the rumors are true, it might be the most powerful one of all. He's looking at a picture of a solar system while talking about it, but that's it.
