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E said:
I don't get why people are so excited about this. Spider-Man has always been more of a loner, and I never liked that Bendis brought him onto the Avengers.

I also liked Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker, so that kind of sucks.
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Well, I'm excited because I have the exact opposite opinion. My favorite part of Spider-Man was he had his own solo stuff, but he also interacted with EVERYBODY. I LOVE him in the Avengers and Andrew Garfield was terrible.

Dulé Hill for Prowler (better go Ultimate) or Hypno Hustler!
 
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freshmaker said:
Phase 3
Captain America: Civil War (May 6, 2016)
Doctor Strange (November 4, 2016)
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (May 5, 2017)
Spider-Man (July 28, 2017)
Thor: Ragnarok (November 3, 2017)
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 (May 4, 2018)
Black Panther (July 6, 2018)
Captain Marvel (November 2, 2018)
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 (May 3, 2019)
Inhumans (July 12, 2019)
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I wondered why there was no July release in 2017. That's so amazing. And spectacular.

EDIT: Oh, never mind. Thor 3 used to be in the July 2017 slot. The July 2017 slot was the one that was (and still remains) empty. They just pushed a bunch of the movies back.
E said:
I don't get why people are so excited about this. Spider-Man has always been more of a loner, and I never liked that Bendis brought him onto the Avengers.

I also liked Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker, so that kind of sucks.
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Yeah, I really liked Garfield and Stone in the ASM movies too, but ASM 2 was pretty awful. I'm just excited to see Marvel Studios have input into Spider-Man. They do really well with their movies, even the not so great ones. They obviously know how to make these movies well and they care about the characters and really do them justice. I don't necessarily want to see Spider-Man in all the Avengers movies, but I'm glad he's going to be in Civil War.

And most of all, this makes my dream of a Daredevil & Spidey team up movie a possibility. I want so badly to see them team up against Kingpin!
 
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E said:
I don't get why people are so excited about this. Spider-Man has always been more of a loner, and I never liked that Bendis brought him onto the Avengers.

I also liked Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker, so that kind of sucks.
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I'm psyched cuz I'm sick of bad Spider-Man movies. I'm happy to see the character in good hands again. It would be nice if they don't bother with rebooting the origin again. Just take what they liked and is usable out of the last 2 movies and forget the rest.

Captain Canuck said:
And most of all, this makes my dream of a Daredevil & Spidey team up movie a possibility. I want so badly to see them team up against Kingpin!
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This.
 
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mike3717 said:
I'm psyched cuz I'm sick of bad Spider-Man movies. I'm happy to see the character in good hands again. It would be nice if they don't bother with rebooting the origin again. Just take what they liked and is usable out of the last 2 movies and forget the rest.
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Just do what they did with the Spectacular Spider-Man show and pick up after he's been Spidey for a while. We all know the origin. Incredible Hulk did a pretty good job with that too. Hulk's origin was shown briefly in the opening credits and then that was good enough.



This.
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Right?
 
mike3717 said:
Right on! ;) I Wanna see DD/SM team up movie too! They can even throw in the Punisher and Moon Knight for good measure.
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Yeah, that would be okay. I think if they want to take Spider-Man in a "different" direction, they should make him more street level and have him face off against organized crime (and super villains that are made/hired by them) like in Spectacular Spider-Man.
 
Captain Canuck said:
Yeah, that would be okay. I think if they want to take Spider-Man in a "different" direction, they should make him more street level and have him face off against organized crime (and super villains that are made/hired by them) like in Spectacular Spider-Man.
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I don't know why but those were always my least favorite Spider-Man stories. Both in Ultimate and 616. I'd prefer Daredevil and Punisher for those (Omega Effect would be awesome) and Spider-Man going up against super powered bad guys. Mysterio is a must as is a proper Lizard. They should adapt The Gauntlet.
 
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wyokid said:
I don't know why but those were always my least favorite Spider-Man stories. Both in Ultimate and 616. I'd prefer Daredevil and Punisher for those (Omega Effect would be awesome) and Spider-Man going up against super powered bad guys. Mysterio is a must as is a proper Lizard. They should adapt The Gauntlet.
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They've always been some of my favourites. Kingpin is such an awesome villain. And Hammerhead. And Tombstone. And Hobgoblin. And all the rest.

And especially for the MCU. Ground it in this street-level New York stuff that SHIELD and the Avengers won't be interested in (I guess SHIELD is gone now, but you know what I'm saying). Let him team up with DD and get told he's too young and stupid and over his head. Let him face off against Punisher and have to fight him AND the bad guys. Then build to the personal stuff. Build to Green Goblin turning his world upside down. Show how Oscorp is involved in shady stuff with the underworld for several movies and eventually get to a showdown with Green Goblin.

I need to stop now because I can talk about this all day.
 
mike3717 said:
Now I am optimistic that they can work out a deal like this for FF.
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Given the animosity between Marvel and Fox, I seriously doubt it. Ultimately, when the rights do revert, it likely won't be due to any deal struck but due to Fox giving up on the franchise. And reaction to the new F4 trailer has been pretty decent, so that may not be for a long while if the first film is financially successful enough to justify a sequel, or trilogy, or even more films beyond that.




E said:
I don't get why people are so excited about this. Spider-Man has always been more of a loner, and I never liked that Bendis brought him onto the Avengers.
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Because it creates some fun dialogue and interactions between Spidey and the other MCU characters.

I also liked Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker, so that kind of sucks.
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I liked Garfield as Peter too, but I have a feeling, based on Marvel's brilliant casting for almost all their roles, their influence on the casting process will result in the absolute best version of a live action Spider-Man yet.

Not to mention a superior approach to plot and characterization. As much as I liked Garfield in the role, ASM2 was pretty horrible.
 
Captain Canuck said:
And most of all, this makes my dream of a Daredevil & Spidey team up movie a possibility. I want so badly to see them team up against Kingpin!
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I just want Spidey to team up with Dr. Strange, like he did in Straczynski's comics. Some of my all time favorite comic stories, those.
 
Captain Canuck said:
Yeah, that would be okay. I think if they want to take Spider-Man in a "different" direction, they should make him more street level and have him face off against organized crime (and super villains that are made/hired by them) like in Spectacular Spider-Man.
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I like that idea. What I like about SM is that he is the tofu of superheroes. Meaning, he can function successfully in a lot of scenarios. If you pair him with street level gritty heroes, ie DD, Punisher, Moon Knight etc, he works well on that level. If he is paired with Thor or Dr Strange he works. He can be handled as a loner if need be. And people will say, "I like the street level stuff" or "I like the lone super heroics" or "I like him with Dr Strange" and I think that is the beauty of the character. He actually has something for everyone.


DIrishB said:
Given the animosity between Marvel and Fox, I seriously doubt it. Ultimately, when the rights do revert, it likely won't be due to any deal struck but due to Fox giving up on the franchise. And reaction to the new F4 trailer has been pretty decent, so that may not be for a long while if the first film is financially successful enough to justify a sequel, or trilogy, or even more films beyond that.
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Oh, I know it's not realistic. Sadly, I kinda hope the new FF movie flops horribly so that perhaps Fox just abandons the property or something that reverts it back to Marvel.
 
mike3717 said:
I like that idea. What I like about SM is that he is the tofu of superheroes. Meaning, he can function successfully in a lot of scenarios. If you pair him with street level gritty heroes, ie DD, Punisher, Moon Knight etc, he works well on that level. If he is paired with Thor or Dr Strange he works. He can be handled as a loner if need be. And people will say, "I like the street level stuff" or "I like the lone super heroics" or "I like him with Dr Strange" and I think that is the beauty of the character. He actually has something for everyone.
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That's a great breakdown.

But tofu? Ugh.




Oh, I know it's not realistic. Sadly, I kinda hope the new FF movie flops horribly so that perhaps Fox just abandons the property or something that reverts it back to Marvel.
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I'm hoping for the same thing, honestly.
 
What this has told some people is that if they don't see the other studio's movies then Marvel will get them back.
 
I'm just thinking about how absolutely massive the MCU has become/is becoming. It's crazy. Here's a list of just the movies and tv shows that have come out or are confirmed for the future. Not including one-shots, tie-in comics, or future tv seasons that are probable (Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter), we have 22 movies, and 112 episodes of tv. Wow.

2008
May - Iron Man
June - Incredible Hulk
2010
May - Iron Man 2
2011
May - Thor
July - Captain America: The First Avenger
2012
May - The Avengers
2013
May - Iron Man 3
September - Agents of SHIELD Season 1
November - Thor: The Dark World
2014
April - Captain America: The Winter Soldier
August - Guardians of the Galaxy
September - Agents of SHIELD Season 2
2015
January - Agent Carter
April - Daredevil
May - Avengers: Age of Ultron
July - Ant-Man
Nov/Dec? - AKA Jessica Jones
2016
April? - Iron Fist
May - Captain America: Civil War
July - Doctor Strange
Nov/Dec? - Luke Cage
2017
April? - The Defenders
May - Guardians of the Galaxy 2
July - Spider-Man
November - Thor: Ragnarok
2018
May - Avengers: Infinity War Part 1
July - Black Panther
November - Captain Marvel
2019
May - Avengers: Infinity War Part 2
July - Inhumans
 
I just watched some stuff over at IGN and they outlined some of the details of the deal between Marvel & Sony

Marvel pays Sony $0 to use Spider-Man.
Sony gets $0 from Spider-Man's appearances in MCU movies.
Marvel gets $0 from Spider-Man's solo and spin-off movies.
Sony gets final say on casting for Spider-Man.
Kevin Feige is a contributing producer on the next Spider-Man movie but doesn't get the final say on anything and gets $0 compensation for his work on the film.
Marvel gets 100% of merchandizing profit from Spider-Man.

That seems like a pretty simple deal and really, a better deal for Sony than for Marvel. Marvel didn't need Spider-Man back, but they wanted him, Sony needed Marvel's help. So Marvel agreed to help Sony and include Spider-Man in their MCU basically for the merchandizing profits and the excitement of having Spidey back. I doubt the Avengers movies will make MORE money just because of Spider-Man (but maybe I'm wrong).

It does make me wonder what's holding up the deal with Fox. I know DoFP was more financially and critically successful than ASM2 was, and I'm sure that plays a big role. But what would be stopping Fox from making a similar deal with Marvel for X-Men and FF? Pride? Spite? They wouldn't lose money on the deal, would they? Make X-Men: Apocalypse as a final chapter in the story they've put together and then start working on a deal with Marvel. Do your Deadpool, Gambit, and Wolverine spin-offs, and then when there hasn't been a team X-Men movie for a while, do one as part of the MCU with the original 5 and Prof X and build from there. If FF is successful, fold it into the MCU, if it isn't wait a bit and reboot it again as part of the MCU. Why not? Hugh Jackman can't play Wolverine forever.
 
Pretty sure it's Sony gets none off of Marvel's films while Marvel gets none off of Sony's
 
You said Marvel gets no money off the Spider-Man film they're making. I don't believe that is the case.
 
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