James Bond: Quantum of Solace (spoilers involved)

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The best Bond theme was for "The Spy Who Loved Me."
Followed by "From Russia With Love."

Period.
 
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MAJOR SPOILERS!!!!!

This link is from ObsessedWithFilm.com and reveals the death of an important character in the film. The scene in which the character meets their fate is lifted from a similar scene from a past Bond movie, and that's all I'm going to say about the details. In fact, most of you probably wouldn't want to ruin the film-going experience by learning who bites it....oddly though, the spoiler was printed in a national British newspaper called Daily Mail, without any objections from Columbia Pictures. But since it is a spoiler, and since it is such a MAJOR spoiler, I've put the link IN a spoiler tag so that your brain has an extra safeguard to prevent it from clicking on the link impulsively.

http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/major-major-major-quantum-of-solace-spoilers-in-sundays-daily-mail.php
 
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The Chris Cornell song was boring and irrelevant and it would be just as boring and irrelevant if they got the Gallaghers to do it.
 
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Langsta said:
MAJOR SPOILERS!!!!!

This link is from ObsessedWithFilm.com and reveals the death of an important character in the film. The scene in which the character meets their fate is lifted from a similar scene from a past Bond movie, and that's all I'm going to say about the details. In fact, most of you probably wouldn't want to ruin the film-going experience by learning who bites it....oddly though, the spoiler was printed in a national British newspaper called Daily Mail, without any objections from Columbia Pictures. But since it is a spoiler, and since it is such a MAJOR spoiler, I've put the link IN a spoiler tag so that your brain has an extra safeguard to prevent it from clicking on the link impulsively.

http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/major-major-major-quantum-of-solace-spoilers-in-sundays-daily-mail.php
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Saw that. Looks like fun.

Moonmaster said:
The Chris Cornell song was boring and irrelevant and it would be just as boring and irrelevant if they got the Gallaghers to do it.
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I love "You Know My Name". They play it at Hard Rock a bit, though not as much as they used too.
 
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You guys are going to hate this idea even more, but I was thinking today and I decided what they really should've done with the new theme. They should've done a rap song.

James Bond drives expensive cars, hangs out with beautiful girls, and is generally just the epitome of the sophisticated badass. He's already living in a giant, expensive rap video.

I'm absolutely convinced it would work. Thanks to the magic of sampling, Kanye West practically already did it a few years ago.

They could get Jay-Z to do it. He's one of the few rappers who can look convincingly sophisticated and classy and would know how to do it right. Get a composer to make sure the music has an appropriately Bond tone and pick a singer to do the hook. Alicia Keys isn't bad. Even though she couldn't get her **** together well enough to write a song, Amy Winehouse's voice might add an appropriately nostalgic sound to work as a counterpoint.

I'm liking this idea so much that I'm thinking they should've done something like this instead of the Jack White song. (Though I'm fine with that one.) Maybe for the next Bond movie. Even though I have little respect for the people who were doing Bond songs in the 80s (Duran Duran...), at least they were relevant to the time period. There's nothing relevant about boring dad rock from people who no one has cared about since the mid-90s.

And if you disagree with me, UZ A RASIST CRACKA YO!!1
 
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moonmaster said:
You guys are going to hate this idea even more, but I was thinking today and I decided what they really should've done with the new theme. They should've done a rap song.

James Bond drives expensive cars, hangs out with beautiful girls, and is generally just the epitome of the sophisticated badass. He's already living in a giant, expensive rap video.

I'm absolutely convinced it would work. Thanks to the magic of sampling, Kanye West practically already did it a few years ago.

They could get Jay-Z to do it. He's one of the few rappers who can look convincingly sophisticated and classy and would know how to do it right. Get a composer to make sure the music has an appropriately Bond tone and pick a singer to do the hook. Alicia Keys isn't bad. Even though she couldn't get her **** together well enough to write a song, Amy Winehouse's voice might add an appropriately nostalgic sound to work as a counterpoint.

I'm liking this idea so much that I'm thinking they should've done something like this instead of the Jack White song. (Though I'm fine with that one.) Maybe for the next Bond movie. Even though I have little respect for the people who were doing Bond songs in the 80s (Duran Duran...), at least they were relevant to the time period. There's nothing relevant about boring dad rock from people who no one has cared about since the mid-90s.

And if you disagree with me, UZ A RASIST CRACKA YO!!1
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I actually like that idea. I like it alot. I have to admit though, it's partly because it should piss the hell out of the Gallagher brothers. Take that 90's relics!!!
 
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moonmaster said:
You guys are going to hate this idea even more, but I was thinking today and I decided what they really should've done with the new theme. They should've done a rap song.

James Bond drives expensive cars, hangs out with beautiful girls, and is generally just the epitome of the sophisticated badass. He's already living in a giant, expensive rap video.

I'm absolutely convinced it would work. Thanks to the magic of sampling, Kanye West practically already did it a few years ago.

They could get Jay-Z to do it. He's one of the few rappers who can look convincingly sophisticated and classy and would know how to do it right. Get a composer to make sure the music has an appropriately Bond tone and pick a singer to do the hook. Alicia Keys isn't bad. Even though she couldn't get her **** together well enough to write a song, Amy Winehouse's voice might add an appropriately nostalgic sound to work as a counterpoint.

I'm liking this idea so much that I'm thinking they should've done something like this instead of the Jack White song. (Though I'm fine with that one.) Maybe for the next Bond movie. Even though I have little respect for the people who were doing Bond songs in the 80s (Duran Duran...), at least they were relevant to the time period. There's nothing relevant about boring dad rock from people who no one has cared about since the mid-90s.

And if you disagree with me, UZ A RASIST CRACKA YO!!1
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So you want the theme to mimick every 007 knockoff's theme?
 
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DARKKNIGHT said:
I actually like that idea. I like it alot. I have to admit though, it's partly because it should piss the hell out of the Gallagher brothers. Take that 90's relics!!!
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They'd be all like "Bollocks to you, you bloody wankers, and other cockney colloquialisms!" and Jay-Z would just turn and look at them and they'd straighten up and be all like "May we get you some Hennessy, Mr. Jigga?"
TheManWithoutFear said:
So you want the theme to mimick every 007 knockoff's theme?
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No, I want a Bond theme that actually sounds like it could've been recorded within the last ten years.

And that's, ya know, good.
 
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I don't really think the theme tune matters that much (to me, at least). It's a fun little song that I'll never care about again. That said, I think a Noel Gallagher Bond theme would be sweet and I don't get why he's not modern enough to do it. I'm sure it would be better than the current one.
 
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moonmaster said:
They'd be all like "Bollocks to you, you bloody wankers, and other cockney colloquialisms!" and Jay-Z would just turn and look at them and they'd straighten up and be all like "May we get you some Hennessy, Mr. Jigga?"
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Hehehe. exactly, bloody redcoats. :D A Foo Fighters Bond song might be good.
 
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A Blur reunion to do the Bond theme would've been pretty sweet, I reckon. Or Gorillaz.
 
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The new song is rubbish. There's a point in it where they seem to just play random notes, the woman grants, and they laugh and smile about it as they take the piss out of their phoned in thing.

Maybe I just didn't get it.
 
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TheManWithoutFear said:
This actually annoys me. You want some hip-hop/rap song because you think artists in other genres don't sound contemporary?
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Yes, actually.

I'd be looking for a few basic things out of their choice for who to do this: relevancy, talent, popularity. The rap world, despite the fact that it's practically overflowing with pointless crap these days, still recognizes talent when it sees it. I can't think of many talented, relevant, mainstream acts outside of rap lately. Most mainstream rock/pop nowadays is balls.
ProjectX2 said:
I don't really think the theme tune matters that much (to me, at least). It's a fun little song that I'll never care about again.
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I sort of agree, but the internet was made for arguing about things you don't even really care much about.
That said, I think a Noel Gallagher Bond theme would be sweet and I don't get why he's not modern enough to do it. I'm sure it would be better than the current one.
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He's still not relevant. Maybe Oasis is still relevant in the UK and elsewhere, but I think it would be hard to sell a Bond song by them in America.

The typical reaction would be along the lines of "What the ****, those guys are still together???"
ProjectX2 said:
A Blur reunion to do the Bond theme would've been pretty sweet, I reckon. Or Gorillaz.
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I'd actually like to hear a Damon Albarn Bond theme, perhaps teamed with someone a bit more recognizable.
 
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moonmaster said:
He's still not relevant. Maybe Oasis is still relevant in the UK and elsewhere, but I think it would be hard to sell a Bond song by them in America.

The typical reaction would be along the lines of "What the ****, those guys are still together???"
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Yeah, I gathered that from reading various forums where all they know about Oasis is Wonderwall. Yet Americans love their Radiohead it seems.

A Radiohead Bond theme. Scary.
 
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Most of the reviews I'm reading for this are disappointing. :(
 
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I put up my thoughts in the "favourite films of 2008" thread.

It's relatively spoiler free in that no major plot elements are given away. But to sum up:

It's a filler film, and incomplete. It fails to stand on its own, and is unfortunately lacking in substance, relying on CASINO ROYALE to give it emotional involvement and the next film to give it purpose. That said, it is entertaining for the vast majority.

Bass said:
JAMES BOND: QUANTUM OF SOLACE: 6/10 - Bit of a shame here. It's a very entertaining film, and lots of fun with some truly terrific stuff: Dominic Greene is amazingly chilling, M's fear of the new organisation is very palpable, Matias was amazingly empathetic, and Bond's utterly relentless pursuit is exciting. I particularly like how he dealt with Greene and Vesper's boyfriend. The problem is that the film isn't complete. Unlike CASINO ROYALE which stood on its own, both as the beginning of a new franchise and a complete film in an of itself, QUANTUM OF SOLACE feels like the second part of a trilogy. It simply does not stand on its own. It relies too much on CASINO ROYALE and the inevitable threequel on the way. It is also amateurish in that a key scene for all action movies is missing: the hero at the mercy of the villain. This does not happen in the movie. The movie lacks a truly terrific spectacle. The final sequence in the hotel is actually pretty lame (although the desert scene is awesome). CASINO ROYALE had a similar problem - out of the blue, Le Chiffre is killed for Bond (which is lame) and then Bond goes around Venice chasing down another one-eyed bad guy. The ending sucked. What redeemed CASINO ROYALE was the fantastic death of Vesper and the Mr White scene. That and the "scratching my balls" scene and the poker game. QUANTUM OF SOLACE was very entertaining, but it failed to jump that last hurdle. That lack of structure only added to the 'filler' nature of the movie making it very thin. There are two main questions brought up in the film: What's in the land Greene wants and who does Greene work for? While the first seems to be water (which is kinda lame) the second we're given a name: Quantum (perhaps Quantum is the name of the valuable resource Greene was after all along?). Unfortunately, all the answers are given OFF-SCREEN and we're not told them, making the film lacking in a point. It's a shame really. I think the actor for Greene (Mathieu Alacard, I think) is perhaps one of the greatest Bond villains to date. If I were to rate Greene out of 10 as a villain, I'd give him a 6... and all of it is Alacard's delivery. If Alacard had been given a GOOD Bond villain like Le Chiffre, or Alec Trevelyn, or Scaramanga, or Goldfinger... best Bond villain ever, no question in my mind. I want to watch SOLACE again JUST for him. I was really, really impressed with him.
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Something interesting: a lot of people don't like the name "Quantum of Solace". While I LOVE the name, I agree that a) It makes no sense for THIS movie and b) It's, arguably, not a good Bond title.

Here's the weird thing. The theme song (which is rubbish) had an AWESOME title for the movie:

Another Way To Die

That actually MAKES sense in the context of the movie. It's an AWESOME Bond title.
 
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So tell me what i've been wondering since the last one came out...
Is the new organization SPECTRE???
 
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Dr.Strangefate said:
So tell me what i've been wondering since the last one came out...
Is the new organization SPECTRE???
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That would be awesome.

But no, I don't believe so.
 
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