House of M series discussion (spoilers)

i haven't actually been buying HoM until now, though I've been keeping up with the story. This issue, though, was absolutely worth it. The dialogue and the emotion of it were both very good, and if this is Hawkeye's real death, it was better than the one in disassembled.

I always considered great tragedies to be stories where everything goes wrong and its not necessarily anybody's fault. In Antigone, neither the title character or Cronus is really wrong in their beliefs, but in the end, everyone bites it. I believe this is a true tragedy.

So yeah, no more mutants. Makes me worry for Iceman. As he wasn't in HoM at all, from what I know, maybe they axed him. And I don't recall seeing him on any covers post-M... :( HE'S FROM THE 60S! SILVER AGE! YOU CANT GET RID OF THEM.... THEY'RE MADE OF FREAKING SILVER!
 
This was agreat read-no more mutants eh...........

Too bad i'd read Crisis just before it :)

No more mutants vs the
return of the original Superman
...........theres a tricky one.............
 
"No more secondary mutations. God I hate those!"

Iceman, Beast: "Hooray!"

"You know what, f it. No more mutants!"

Iceman, Beast: "... oh."
 
compound said:
I'm conflicted about this -- the idea of non-super-hero mutants attempting to live ordinary lives was one of the most intriguing aspects of both Joe Casey and Grant Morrison's runs, although they did exhaust A LOT of the narrative possibilties in a satisfactory kind of way.

I'm wondering if this will also reverse secondary mutations as well -- for example, Archangel losing his healing blood, Iceman being able to change back into human form, and Beast reverting to his more ape-like appearance, etc.

Also, forcibly "curing" all the non-hero mutants basically negates any dramatic impact the entire first arc of Astonishing X-Men has.

Oh, another ramification: this probably means that Angel (Beak's wife) AND their kids are probably gone, as well. Looks like Beakie will probably sticking around with the Exiles indefintiely now.
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Indeed. If Bendis had any balls, she would've said, "No More Luke Cage."

I find it despicable that the only titles House of M seems to be ****ing in the *** are ones set in the parts of the Marvel universe that Bendis ISN'T involved in writing.
 
Bass said:
Indeed. If Bendis had any balls, she would've said, "No More Luke Cage."

I find it despicable that the only titles House of M seems to be ****ing in the *** are ones set in the parts of the Marvel universe that Bendis ISN'T involved in writing.
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I agree with you, he would never lay a hand in Luke Cage and Jessica Jones
 
Best issue of the series-hands down. No more mutants eh? then why is there all the F***in' post HoM mutant titles?!?!
 
No more mutants eh? then why is there all the F***in' post HoM mutant titles?!?!
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Which is why I said this:
icemastertron said:
Well, no duh that there isnt really gonna be "No more mutants". It's so obvious. The only thing we have to look for is HOW its going to be told from this point, to the next.
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"Dr. Strange: Is that what Magneto said?

Wanda: It's… it's more complicated than that doctor, you have to understand…He was trying to save me.

Dr. Strange: It wasn't Magneto. It was Pietro…Are you sure about that? I mean he was like disappeared from comics for 4 years…

Wanda: Yes, I'm sure it was Pietro…

Dr. Strange: Really really sure? You know, they both have silver hair…

Wanda: I already told you! It was my brother!!

Dr. Strange: And when you say brother…you mean Magneto right?

Wanda: Oh, **** you Doctor…"

I just want him alive :cry:
 
To be frank, this is the biggest lead up to ****ty editorial decision I have EVER seen in comic books.

Quesada decided there were "too many mutants".... WHAT THE HELL?!

Humans EVOLVE into Mutants. The Human Race is going to die out within three generations!

So they decide to make Wanda go crazy, make Pietro instable and more domineering of his sister than EVER before... and make Magneto the one without a clue as to what's going on?

This is insane.

I'll admit, it's well written, it's enjoyable... but the repurcussions of this might be what finally drives me away from the X-Books...
 
Dr.Strangefate said:
To be frank, this is the biggest lead up to ****ty editorial decision I have EVER seen in comic books.

Quesada decided there were "too many mutants".... WHAT THE HELL?!

Humans EVOLVE into Mutants. The Human Race is going to die out within three generations!

So they decide to make Wanda go crazy, make Pietro instable and more domineering of his sister than EVER before... and make Magneto the one without a clue as to what's going on?

This is insane.

I'll admit, it's well written, it's enjoyable... but the repurcussions of this might be what finally drives me away from the X-Books...
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I just quoted you beacause you said everything i wanted to say, same words lol
It's a very good story and well written, but it's liked they didn't thought about the after...It would be cool as a What if...
 
Dr.Strangefate said:
To be frank, this is the biggest lead up to ****ty editorial decision I have EVER seen in comic books.

Quesada decided there were "too many mutants".... WHAT THE HELL?!

Humans EVOLVE into Mutants. The Human Race is going to die out within three generations!

So they decide to make Wanda go crazy, make Pietro instable and more domineering of his sister than EVER before... and make Magneto the one without a clue as to what's going on?

This is insane.

I'll admit, it's well written, it's enjoyable... but the repurcussions of this might be what finally drives me away from the X-Books...
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The only reason I don't agree with you Doc is because we can't judge the aftermath of this until we actually see it.
 
I should have mentioned that my annoyance came from a Newsarama Article about DeciMation

Did you think I was joking about what Joe Q said?

Newsarama said:
In explaining the decision to cut down on the number of mutants in the Marvel Universe, Quesada said that part of the X-Men's appeal was that mutants were a minority, and that allowed for empathy with readers. As Quesada explained, that feeling of "minority" had been lost over the years.

Editorially, Quesada added, there is now a mandate that no new mutants can be created wholesale - only five or six new mutant-based characters that were already in the pipeline will be seen. And that the ones going away won't be coming back...
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The rest is here
 
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Dr.Strangefate said:
I should have mentioned that my annoyance came from a Newsarama Article about DeciMation

Did you think I was joking about what Joe Q said?



The rest is here
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The funniest thing is that he said that since he's in as EIC he wanted to make mutants be rare but in the first years they appeared everywhere 16 millions died in Genosha... that means that the world had how much mutants?
 
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