House of M series discussion (spoilers)

Dr.Strangefate said:
I should have mentioned that my annoyance came from a Newsarama Article about DeciMation

Did you think I was joking about what Joe Q said?



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I know where you're coming from but I think what they're going to do is just make the background seem like they lost more mutants and the mutants we all know and love are still there. What they'll probably do is show more action around the characters that makes them look like minorities and claim the mutant population has gone down....
 
Dr.Strangefate said:
I should have mentioned that my annoyance came from a Newsarama Article about DeciMation

Did you think I was joking about what Joe Q said?



The rest is here
And if you're going to discuss, go here.


You can make points referring to HoM issues only. This is, afterall, the issue discussion thread. :wink:
 
...Well at least Pietro kicked a lot of ***es. That was good, i hate when they make him, like, crash a wall or something, he has super speed reflexes...
 
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Too many mutants? Need to go back to like it was in the 60`s ? X-men as a minority?

WOW thats a great idea in fact if your going to change the marvel world that much why dont we reboot continuity altogether and recreate the universe as some sort of "ultimate" universe.......on second thoughts no thats just crazy.

Seriously though i thought thats why we had the ultimate X-men to return them to there roots, now the X-titles are gonna look a hell of a lot more similar to UXM.
 
Tomar said:
Seriously though i thought thats why we had the ultimate X-men to return them to there roots, now the X-titles are gonna look a hell of a lot more similar to UXM.

I don't mind similarities.

And that's not why they made UXM...they did it to attract new readers with new stories and not have to deal with Chris Claremont.

:D
 
Tomar said:
Too many mutants? Need to go back to like it was in the 60`s ? X-men as a minority?

WOW thats a great idea in fact if your going to change the marvel world that much why dont we reboot continuity altogether and recreate the universe as some sort of "ultimate" universe.......on second thoughts no thats just crazy.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
WOW Oh my Gosh............. i loved Wandas Talk about her dad....... man that was worth the wait...... i can't wait to see the fall out
 
I was going to get this today, but I was $2 short and I had to give up one book so....
 
So the whole point of this series (besides money) is to lessen the amount of mutants in the Marvel Universe (by lessen we mean, not get rid of anyone important like Wolverine or the X-Men, but reduce the ficticious number that was never defined to a point where we can have the characters talk about it a lot, but not do anything about it, and we can have a tie-in or two), and I was thinking about how ****ing stupid this was.

Didn't Grant Morrison kill 16 MILLION mutants and destroy the largest mutant community on Marvel Earth (y'know - the COUNTRY of Genosha)? Why yes he did - in his FIRST issue. So why didn't they use this event to churn out all the Decimation plot lines? There must have been maybe a million or two mutants left on the planet - and that's being generous. Couldn't they have done all this House of M "repercussions" back then? Of course they could. So, as far as I can tell, we've had a year of bull**** to essentially redo what Morrison did in his first issue of his New X-Men run. All this stuff, if they wanted to do it, could've already been done, thanks to Morrison. Not that it matters, because with the sole exception of Joss Whedon and John Cassady, everyone at Marvel is trying to forget that Grant Morrison even wrote New X-Men. Instead of just bringing back Magneto, they decided to say it wasn't Magneto but really Xorn, completely gutting Morrison's story arc - they've conviently forgotten about humanity's extinction gene that makes the whole "getting rid of mutants" storyline pointless, and the destruction of Genosha and the murder of 16 million mutants.

Argh. I know I sound like a fanboy, but I apart from Astonishing X-Men, I can't believe that since Morrison left his run, the only thing they kept around was Genosha being in ruins, and Jean Grey dead. They produced it, and somehow, just wanted to... I dunno. It just makes me mad how stupid the X-Men comics are at the moment, and how they... argh. I'm just pissed off. It really just seems to me like they're trying to redo Morrison's arc "on their terms" because Morrison's was lacking... in something. And I haven't a clue what that something could be.

Sorry to rant. But I need to vent.
 
Bass said:
So the whole point of this series (besides money) is to lessen the amount of mutants in the Marvel Universe (by lessen we mean, not get rid of anyone important like Wolverine or the X-Men, but reduce the ficticious number that was never defined to a point where we can have the characters talk about it a lot, but not do anything about it, and we can have a tie-in or two), and I was thinking about how ****ing stupid this was.

Didn't Grant Morrison kill 16 MILLION mutants and destroy the largest mutant community on Marvel Earth (y'know - the COUNTRY of Genosha)? Why yes he did - in his FIRST issue. So why didn't they use this event to churn out all the Decimation plot lines? There must have been maybe a million or two mutants left on the planet - and that's being generous. Couldn't they have done all this House of M "repercussions" back then? Of course they could. So, as far as I can tell, we've had a year of bull**** to essentially redo what Morrison did in his first issue of his New X-Men run. All this stuff, if they wanted to do it, could've already been done, thanks to Morrison. Not that it matters, because with the sole exception of Joss Whedon and John Cassady, everyone at Marvel is trying to forget that Grant Morrison even wrote New X-Men. Instead of just bringing back Magneto, they decided to say it wasn't Magneto but really Xorn, completely gutting Morrison's story arc - they've conviently forgotten about humanity's extinction gene that makes the whole "getting rid of mutants" storyline pointless, and the destruction of Genosha and the murder of 16 million mutants.

Argh. I know I sound like a fanboy, but I apart from Astonishing X-Men, I can't believe that since Morrison left his run, the only thing they kept around was Genosha being in ruins, and Jean Grey dead. They produced it, and somehow, just wanted to... I dunno. It just makes me mad how stupid the X-Men comics are at the moment, and how they... argh. I'm just pissed off. It really just seems to me like they're trying to redo Morrison's arc "on their terms" because Morrison's was lacking... in something. And I haven't a clue what that something could be.

Sorry to rant. But I need to vent.
The point of HoM wasnt for that. Joe Q. had that written in after BMB pitched the idea.
 
icemastertron said:
The point of HoM wasnt for that. Joe Q. had that written in after BMB pitched the idea.

... I'm desperately trying to work out what BMB thought the point of his storyline was because it can't just be "They all get what they want because someone gives it to them, then they lose it when they take it away. It's like Job, only 200 pages long - and without the meaning."
 
I liked issue 7. It kinda redemed the whole series for me. Hawkeye's confronation with Scarlet Witch was cool. And his cube explosion. Magneto reaction was priceless to Pietro. That wa sthe best part. But the only disappointment I had was that whole Xorn, Magento thing hasn't been resolved yet.
 
thee great one said:
I liked issue 7. It kinda redemed the whole series for me. Hawkeye's confronation with Scarlet Witch was cool. And his cube explosion. Magneto reaction was priceless to Pietro. That wa sthe best part. But the only disappointment I had was that whole Xorn, Magento thing hasn't been resolved yet.
Eh, they implied that atleast one version of Magneto we've seen was a Scarlet-Simulacrum. Thats probably the best we're going to get.
 

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