Gideon Stargrave
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Re: Heroes *Spoilers*
You know, I hadn't actually noticed that. Good catch, Planet-man.
You know, I hadn't actually noticed that. Good catch, Planet-man.
Heroes seasons 1 & 2 series discussion [spoilers]
Bass
Nexus of the World
Re: Heroes *Spoilers*
I... I think you're ill. Really ill. You need help.
Unless you're right.
Then you are my hero.
I... I think you're ill. Really ill. You need help.
Unless you're right.
Then you are my hero.
Joe Kalicki
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This is a link to a newsarama thread.
The guy posts something from someone, a TV critic maybe?, just ripping Heroes a new one. He didn't link to the article, so I'll post the thread link here.
This is a link to a newsarama thread.
The guy posts something from someone, a TV critic maybe?, just ripping Heroes a new one. He didn't link to the article, so I'll post the thread link here.
Ice
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Damn. That comes off really badly.
Joe Kalicki
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Re: Heroes *Spoilers*
Yeah, really. He just slams the Heroes fans as much as the production team.
I think he's just jealous.
Yeah, really. He just slams the Heroes fans as much as the production team.
I think he's just jealous.
Ultimate Quicksilver
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WTF? People are still *****ing about Peter vs Sylar fight? What did they expected? Matrix? Who will pay for it?
It's a TV show. They are doing the best they can with the money, even Nathan's flying is cool!
WTF? People are still *****ing about Peter vs Sylar fight? What did they expected? Matrix? Who will pay for it?
It's a TV show. They are doing the best they can with the money, even Nathan's flying is cool!
ProjectX2
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Re: Heroes *Spoilers*
I do agree with some of the things he's saying, but he's being a bit harsh overall.
I do agree with some of the things he's saying, but he's being a bit harsh overall.
compound
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the following two situations have not yet been resolved, yes?:
* Peter asked Claude (in "Unxepected", I think) whether he had trained anybody else to use their powers; he chose not to respond. The issue was never addressed again.
* In "Company Man", Claude admits that he created a "security breach" by allowing a super-powered individual to escape safely, in order to prevent them from being subjected to the Company's "vivisection". However, the identity of this person has never been disclosed to the audience. (Was this ever addressed in one of the web-comics? Because I know I missed some installments.)
Perhaps one MORE reason Claude has such a crappy view of human nature is because he inadvertantly helped in the training AND escape of the Big Evil -- the one who can see/sense Molly?
I know I could be waaaaaay off -- it's really all just speculation and informed guess-work, at this point. But as the show constantly reminds us, everything is connected, somehow.
So far, the writers have been too purposeful to leave a potentially significant plot point hanging like that for so long, without any follow-up.
I'm definitely convinced we haven't seen the last of Claude yet, as long as Eccleston is willing and able to appear on the show, every once in a while.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the following two situations have not yet been resolved, yes?:
* Peter asked Claude (in "Unxepected", I think) whether he had trained anybody else to use their powers; he chose not to respond. The issue was never addressed again.
* In "Company Man", Claude admits that he created a "security breach" by allowing a super-powered individual to escape safely, in order to prevent them from being subjected to the Company's "vivisection". However, the identity of this person has never been disclosed to the audience. (Was this ever addressed in one of the web-comics? Because I know I missed some installments.)
Perhaps one MORE reason Claude has such a crappy view of human nature is because he inadvertantly helped in the training AND escape of the Big Evil -- the one who can see/sense Molly?
I know I could be waaaaaay off -- it's really all just speculation and informed guess-work, at this point. But as the show constantly reminds us, everything is connected, somehow.
So far, the writers have been too purposeful to leave a potentially significant plot point hanging like that for so long, without any follow-up.
I'm definitely convinced we haven't seen the last of Claude yet, as long as Eccleston is willing and able to appear on the show, every once in a while.
Victor Von Doom
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No....the body portion of that is where Sylar fell to the ground after being stabbed.
The trail is just the blood from him dragging his body across the ground. A few seconds later---the image shows roach/Sylar crawling into the sewers.
No....the body portion of that is where Sylar fell to the ground after being stabbed.
The trail is just the blood from him dragging his body across the ground. A few seconds later---the image shows roach/Sylar crawling into the sewers.
Planet-man
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OMG that's just sylar's blood? ok i thought it might be sum random foresadowin but ur prolly right. its not like ne1 can paint the future on this show or nething.
OMG that's just sylar's blood? ok i thought it might be sum random foresadowin but ur prolly right. its not like ne1 can paint the future on this show or nething.
Bass
Nexus of the World
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Dude, don't be demeaning. No call for it.
That said, I didn't see it as Sylar 'painting' that. It's a really good catch, Planet-Man.
In regards to the 'critique', I have to say, I agree with one point. The stupidity that Hiro doesn't tell Ando he's training with his dad. Hiro should've told Ando, but he didn't so we could have the Sylar/Ando/Hiro moment. I agree that it was contrived.
But that's all. The rest is nonsense.
Like how Heroes is a bad mystery show for putting it's pieces in play early enough for people to guess the ending while Lost is a good mystery show for having tiny little hints and then disregarding them in the final episode for a complete 'mind****' of an ending that comes out of nowhere giving a faux gesture of resolution. Or how Heroes doesn't have three-dimensional characters or character arcs, even though the original major villain of the show, Bennet, turns out to be one of the major heroes.
The man has no capability to critique. He makes as many points about the show as he does his contempt for the audience that watches it. He seems more pissed off about the people who watch the show than the show itself. When I bash Bendis or whomever, I don't tend to make large, offensive slams at the people who read them (or make them). I just bash the story. That's it. But this guy - apparently, I like McDonald's.
The guy's an obnoxious *******. Any valid points he makes about the show are forgotten in his rabid flaming of an audience. He doesn't 'tear into Heroes'. He just insults its audience. Good for him.
Any how, regarding Heroes;
Is anyone terrified for Hiro? Not the past stuff, no. I'm more worried about this - the only reason Hiro stabbed Sylar was because Sylar just wasn't capable of believing he'd do it. He'd faced him once in "The Hard Part" and Hiro ran away. He confronts him in the finale in Isaac's apartment - and Hiro runs away. Sylar's all, "You're kidding. This is how Isaac thought I'd die? Stabbed by a silly little man?!" So when Hiro appears and calls Sylar out, he's so, "Hiro won't stab me" and that's why he's so shocked (just look at the actor's face). But when they have a rematch (and it's so going to happen) - Sylar won't give Hiro that moment. So that rematch is going to have me ****ting my pants.
While we know Hiro's opening story arc for season 2 (I wonder if he'll be in 1671 all the time), I wonder what those in the present will do. I can imagine that if Hiro is finding out about his lineage in 1671, then maybe Bennet will be leading Parkman, Claire, and the rest to take down Mama Petrelli. No doubt Claire wants to bash her in. And Niki and DL will be interested to know more since they not only though they were the only superpowered people, but were part of Linderman's science experiments. It seems a very natural progression for these characters to be hunting down their origins. I wonder if Hiro's father will play a part in the present day and be present in both eras, and if Ando will be there to help.
One interesting thing I noted.
Isaac painted Hiro fighting a dragon. Now, he's in 1671 and maybe he turns out to be Kensei, maybe it's his dad, or maybe he plays a part in crafting the legends. One of them is of course fighting a dragon or what not - which of course, is what Isaac painted. So, Hiro will probably fight a dragon.
Buuuuut - Isaac paints the future. not the past. That means that dragon thing must occur in 2008+, NOT 1671... perhaps if Hiro comes to the present he'll open a rift (future Hiro mentioned this in "Hiros") and that thing will follow him through?
*musings*
Dude, don't be demeaning. No call for it.
That said, I didn't see it as Sylar 'painting' that. It's a really good catch, Planet-Man.
In regards to the 'critique', I have to say, I agree with one point. The stupidity that Hiro doesn't tell Ando he's training with his dad. Hiro should've told Ando, but he didn't so we could have the Sylar/Ando/Hiro moment. I agree that it was contrived.
But that's all. The rest is nonsense.
Like how Heroes is a bad mystery show for putting it's pieces in play early enough for people to guess the ending while Lost is a good mystery show for having tiny little hints and then disregarding them in the final episode for a complete 'mind****' of an ending that comes out of nowhere giving a faux gesture of resolution. Or how Heroes doesn't have three-dimensional characters or character arcs, even though the original major villain of the show, Bennet, turns out to be one of the major heroes.
The man has no capability to critique. He makes as many points about the show as he does his contempt for the audience that watches it. He seems more pissed off about the people who watch the show than the show itself. When I bash Bendis or whomever, I don't tend to make large, offensive slams at the people who read them (or make them). I just bash the story. That's it. But this guy - apparently, I like McDonald's.
The guy's an obnoxious *******. Any valid points he makes about the show are forgotten in his rabid flaming of an audience. He doesn't 'tear into Heroes'. He just insults its audience. Good for him.
Any how, regarding Heroes;
Is anyone terrified for Hiro? Not the past stuff, no. I'm more worried about this - the only reason Hiro stabbed Sylar was because Sylar just wasn't capable of believing he'd do it. He'd faced him once in "The Hard Part" and Hiro ran away. He confronts him in the finale in Isaac's apartment - and Hiro runs away. Sylar's all, "You're kidding. This is how Isaac thought I'd die? Stabbed by a silly little man?!" So when Hiro appears and calls Sylar out, he's so, "Hiro won't stab me" and that's why he's so shocked (just look at the actor's face). But when they have a rematch (and it's so going to happen) - Sylar won't give Hiro that moment. So that rematch is going to have me ****ting my pants.
While we know Hiro's opening story arc for season 2 (I wonder if he'll be in 1671 all the time), I wonder what those in the present will do. I can imagine that if Hiro is finding out about his lineage in 1671, then maybe Bennet will be leading Parkman, Claire, and the rest to take down Mama Petrelli. No doubt Claire wants to bash her in. And Niki and DL will be interested to know more since they not only though they were the only superpowered people, but were part of Linderman's science experiments. It seems a very natural progression for these characters to be hunting down their origins. I wonder if Hiro's father will play a part in the present day and be present in both eras, and if Ando will be there to help.
One interesting thing I noted.
Isaac painted Hiro fighting a dragon. Now, he's in 1671 and maybe he turns out to be Kensei, maybe it's his dad, or maybe he plays a part in crafting the legends. One of them is of course fighting a dragon or what not - which of course, is what Isaac painted. So, Hiro will probably fight a dragon.
Buuuuut - Isaac paints the future. not the past. That means that dragon thing must occur in 2008+, NOT 1671... perhaps if Hiro comes to the present he'll open a rift (future Hiro mentioned this in "Hiros") and that thing will follow him through?
*musings*
Dr.Strangefate
He Sees You When You're Sleeping. He Knows When Yo
Re: Heroes *Spoilers*
It was him fighting a dinosaur and it already happened in the museum... it wasn't him actually fighting one.
It was him fighting a dinosaur and it already happened in the museum... it wasn't him actually fighting one.
Bass
Nexus of the World
Re: Heroes *Spoilers*
What?
What are you talking about?
He fought a dinosaur? When?
What?
What are you talking about?
He fought a dinosaur? When?
Gideon Stargrave
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Re: Heroes *Spoilers*
I think that when he was in the museum, he turned around and there was a giant statue of a dinosaur. He wasn't actually fighting it. The point of the painting was Hiro having the sword, not Hiro fighting the dinosaur.
I might be wrong though. I'll have to go back and watch the episode again.
I think that when he was in the museum, he turned around and there was a giant statue of a dinosaur. He wasn't actually fighting it. The point of the painting was Hiro having the sword, not Hiro fighting the dinosaur.
I might be wrong though. I'll have to go back and watch the episode again.
TwilightEL
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That's it exactly, he turned around and saw it. It wasn't exactly like the painting, but the paintings are never really exact.
That's it exactly, he turned around and saw it. It wasn't exactly like the painting, but the paintings are never really exact.
Dr.Strangefate
He Sees You When You're Sleeping. He Knows When Yo
Re: Heroes *Spoilers*
Spoilers about new characters to be introduced in the first two episodes of the next season
Spoilers about new characters to be introduced in the first two episodes of the next season
* The yet-to-be-titled Season 2 premiere will introduce new series regular Maya, a Hispanic woman in her mid 20s. Could she be linked with Alejandro who'll recur next season?
* The episode will also introduce Kane, a recurring character that may become a possible regular. This man in his late 20s is referred, in the info we were given, as an ageless American with an European feel. He is said to be a charming womanizer who as a soul that seems to be older than he appears to be.
* A new Japanese recurring female character will be named Princess Keriyama.
* A few high school characters living in California will be added to the recurring cast. They are: Gay cheerleader April; charming 18-year-old West, who doesn't fit in much; May, a mean cheerleader high schooler.
* Other recurring characters making their first appearances in the premiere are: Georgie and Blackie, two Irish thieves, who are under orders of 45ish ringleader Ricky; friendly 40-year-old mild-mannered Bob who is said to be the "unassuming face of a very powerful organization"; NYPD detective Kincaid.
* The second episode will introduce new regular Monica. She is a beautiful African-American in her late 20s. She is very kind to people and always thinks of them before taking care of herself.
* The episode will also introduce Kane, a recurring character that may become a possible regular. This man in his late 20s is referred, in the info we were given, as an ageless American with an European feel. He is said to be a charming womanizer who as a soul that seems to be older than he appears to be.
* A new Japanese recurring female character will be named Princess Keriyama.
* A few high school characters living in California will be added to the recurring cast. They are: Gay cheerleader April; charming 18-year-old West, who doesn't fit in much; May, a mean cheerleader high schooler.
* Other recurring characters making their first appearances in the premiere are: Georgie and Blackie, two Irish thieves, who are under orders of 45ish ringleader Ricky; friendly 40-year-old mild-mannered Bob who is said to be the "unassuming face of a very powerful organization"; NYPD detective Kincaid.
* The second episode will introduce new regular Monica. She is a beautiful African-American in her late 20s. She is very kind to people and always thinks of them before taking care of herself.
Bass
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Gideon Stargrave
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ultimatedjf
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Re: Heroes *Spoilers*
Hey, I love Heroes as much as you guys, and I certainly don't like that this guy's just giving it a beatdown, but LOST is my favorite show of all time, whereas Heroes wouldn't even rank in my top twenty-five, so you might say I enjoyed the piece for what it was : LOST rules compared to Heroes.
Hey, I love Heroes as much as you guys, and I certainly don't like that this guy's just giving it a beatdown, but LOST is my favorite show of all time, whereas Heroes wouldn't even rank in my top twenty-five, so you might say I enjoyed the piece for what it was : LOST rules compared to Heroes.
