Heroes seasons 1 & 2 series discussion [spoilers]

[MaxwellSmart]

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At one point there is a news bulletin on the TV, saying about 200 individuals were captured 'in accordance with the Linderman Act'.

I caught that too, but I would have suspected that it would have been followed by, "Secretary of Homeland Security, Linderman" or something like that.

 

[Hellsbuttmonkey]

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Am I the only one who actually liked the twist that Peter wasn't the one who exploded afterall and that Sylar suffers from the same problems of being overwhelmed by powers?

Peter was the one that exploded though, at least according to F-Peter. Sylar exploded first, because Future Hiro couldn't stop him because he had Claire's power. When F-Hiro went back in time to warn Peter to save the cheerleader, Sylar never gained that power, but Peter exploded and Nathan used Sylar as the scapegoat to cover up his brothers involvement.

Where did they say that Sylar can be overwhelmed by powers?

 

[MaxwellSmart]

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Peter was the one that exploded though, at least according to F-Peter. Sylar exploded first, because Future Hiro couldn't stop him because he had Claire's power. When F-Hiro went back in time to warn Peter to save the cheerleader, Sylar never gained that power, but Peter exploded and Nathan used Sylar as the scapegoat to cover up his brothers involvement.

Where did they say that Sylar can be overwhelmed by powers?

I was mostly just referring to the prospect that Sylar was the one that exploded. Once I heard them talking about Sylar being the one that exploded my first thought was, "Hey, that's an interesting twist." Then future Peter confessed to having been the one that exploded, so that dashed the hopes that it was Sylar.

They never said anything about Sylar destablizing and exploding, but I just figured it's just as feasible as Peter destablizing. Bennet did say that absorbing so many genetic codes into him had destablized him mentally, though.

As for Sylar killing Hiro, how many times have people almost been killed by Sylar? The show has a knack of putting characters in situations where they reasonably should have died and having them survive. Besides, Hiro probably the coolest character on the show. I don't see them killing him off anytime soon.

Does anyone have any theories as to how Sylar apparently died in that cell at the Company, but managed to survive without Claire's power?

 

[Gideon Stargrave]

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Does anyone have any theories as to how Sylar apparently died in that cell at the Company, but managed to survive without Claire's power?

Well, somewhere along the line, he ended up with that one lady's Shape-shifting abilities...so I'm guessing that for whatever reason, she went into his cell, got killed, had her abilities stolen and was impersonated by Sylar. He then probably staged a death for her and switched to being Nathan. Or something.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

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Well, somewhere along the line, he ended up with that one lady's Shape-shifting abilities...so I'm guessing that for whatever reason, she went into his cell, got killed, had her abilities stolen and was impersonated by Sylar. He then probably staged a death for her and switched to being Nathan. Or something.

No, I'm talking about earlier in the season.

Sylar was captured by the company after he tried to kill Claire. He was in a company holding cell when he apparently died. The medical examiner went into the cell to perform an autopsy when miraculously was still alive. I'm wondering how it was that he survived.

 

[Gideon Stargrave]

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No, I'm talking about earlier in the season.

Sylar was captured by the company after he tried to kill Claire. He was in a company holding cell when he apparently died. The medical examiner went into the cell to perform an autopsy when miraculously was still alive. I'm wondering how it was that he survived.

ooooh...I thought you meant that after the explosion he'd been taken into custody. I figured that I just missed that at some point in last night's episode.

Probably via some power we haven't heard about yet.

 

[Bass]

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If Peter and Sylar fight shouldn't Peter eventually over come Sylar because as he uses more and more powers to fight Peter the stronger Peter gets. Also, the regeneration makes Peter almost invincible.

Ah, but notice something:

Peter can use any powers of any heroes he meets, where as Sylar has to kill them and eat their brains to do so. Peter wins this round.

But, Sylar can immediately use the powers he gains with greater precision and effect (since he can see how things work), whereas Peter has to learn how to access and control them. Sylar wins this round.

And then lets not forget that Sylar is completely frickin' insane and evil with no guilt.

Sylar could kick Peter's Neo ***.

The whole futurescape is riddled with holes. For instance, Parkman knew Bennet was hiding Claire and that she was Nathan's daughter. Yet, he kept the secret from the Sylar the whole time.

That's not a hole. Parkman kept Bennet's secret about Claire because Bennet kept Parkman's secret about his own son, Matthew Junior. It was a mutual deal.

How come we never heard of Linderman in the future? You would think that Linderman would be a key player in the course of future events.

The Linderman Act implies that he had a huge role in outlawing superheroes. I'm certain there are key players of the future we haven't seen yet because they've yet to be introduced in the series. We saw a small part of the future - the part we'd understand based on what we know so far. We didn't, for example, see the Petrelli's mother, nor Hiro's father in the future, yet they're obviously players. Same for Christopher Eccleston's character, and the guy who is in charge of Bennet at the company.

I'm really looking forward to what Linderman has planned for Mikah. Now we know that it involves New York, since he is supposed to die when Peter explodes.

They also thought DL was dead. It's possible none of them died, they just pretended to be and Hiro shipped them into the underground.

Am I the only one who actually liked the twist that Peter wasn't the one who exploded afterall and that Sylar suffers from the same problems of being overwhelmed by powers?

No, Peter's the bomb. I thought it might by Sylar, but it's Peter, and they just blamed it on Sylar. This is what is going to **** up Hiro. Hiro (present and future) both think Sylar is the bomb because that's what Nathan Petrelli told everyone. But it's not true.

This might be the reason why Hiro, I assume, will not kill Sylar. He'll realise Sylar isn't the bomb... perhaps he'll try to kill Peter.

Maybe that's where the scar comes from...

 

[darkspider]

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Totally. I watched it with two friends.

We all yelled a lot and held each other in fear.



This is why you're Grand Poobah. You are absolutely correct.

See, Hiro's ****ed.

Sylar was never the bomb. But Hiro doesn't know this. Even if Hiro succeeds in killing Sylar, he won't stop the bomb. That said, it's possible the future will still be better post-bomb because Sylar won't be the president. But, as Sylar said, Nathan had already turned against his kind before Sylar killed him... so maybe not.

This is however the big thing - stopping Sylar and stopping the bomb are two separate, but linked goals. And this is ultimately why Hiro will always fail - changing the past only works if you have omniscience of past events. Future Hiro thought he did, but because he's wrong, he can't guarantee the future he wants.

Also - let's get into Hiro's powers.

If we recall, Hiro can change the future. There is no way Ando will be called on November 8th and say, "I have not seen Hiro Nakamura in 5 weeks." We know this because Ando and Hiro have been road tripping across the US and because Ando is supposed to die in the explosion.

Hiro can change the future.

But he can't change the past.

Whenever Hiro travels back in time to change the past he fails, as he did with the waitress Charlie. And Future Hiro failed to change the past.

See, he says he couldn't kill Sylar and thus, stop the bomb, because he had regeneration. But the Future Hiro HAD to be wrong. Because Sylar couldn't have had regeneration because Claire was still alive. He didn't know. He didn't know that Peter was the bomb. Future Hiro got it wrong. Future Hiro telling Peter to save the cheerleader is the event that causes this future. It's pre-destination. Hiro can't change the past. He never has been able to.

See - when Future Hiro went, "If I go back here and tell Peter to save Claire, it's all ok" he did that because he thought Sylar was the bomb. He was wrong in his assumptions, and when he told Peter to save Claire, he didn't de-rail the future at all. It continued on its merry way.

But Hiro can change the future. When Hiro jumps to the future, he sees the future that exists if he never jumps. We've seen this is how his power works already. So when he jumps back, he can alter it, simply by having seen the future (much like Isaac). But he can't change the past since that would prevent him from existing and thus, changing the past.

Does this make sense?

As simple as I can - Hiro can't change the past, but can change the future, releative to his 'present'. 2007 Hiro can change any events 2008 onwards, but not 2006 and before. 2012 Hiro can change events 2013 onwards but not 2011 and before. Future Hiro was wrong, and Peter will still go boom and Sylar will become president. Present Hiro can stop Sylar by killing him, but he can't stop the bomb since he doesn't know it's Peter.

But there are two flaws with this -

1) How come Peter has a scar? If Claire did indeed die in the first place, then Peter wouldn't have regeneration and thus - he'd have a scar. But Claire didn't die. She's alive in the future. Which means Peter saved her. Which means, he has regeneration, which means he shouldn't have a scar.

2) How did Sylar heal himself and survive his confrontation with Hiro? The only possible explanation other than Hiro simply didn't deal a killing blow is this - Linderman healed him.

And then we have the "Linderman Act"... does Linderman know Sylar exists and does he actually want him to take over from Nathan? Or has Sylar eaten Linderman's brains by that point and healed himself?

And how did Parkman not know Nathan was actually Sylar? He can read Sylar's mind, he should know the president is being impersonated. This means one of three things - Parkman can't read Sylar's mind, Parkman never tried to read Sylar's mind because he thought he was the president, or Parkman did read Sylar's mind and didn't care. Parkman does look disconcerted by Nathan's powers when he attacks Peter... but doesn't seem to have any on-screen reaction when Sylar reveals he's Sylar (unless the illusion is only dispelled for Peter).

Another thing of note - Bennet hid, when Hiro gave them over to him, DL, and Candice. Sylar ate both their brains. Now, I assumed that he got to DL because Parkman knew about DL from reading Bennet's mind, told the president, who then ate DL. But, that can't be true for Candice, since Candice's power is what lets Sylar become the president...

And just what can Molly, a little girl, do that's useful in a prison break? Did future Sylar eat her brain too? (She was on the same list as DL and Candice, both of whom, Sylar devoured.)

This is really exciting.

I think that your argument is sound except for a number of things. Hiro can't change the past drastically. The past can be changed, but the outcome will remain the same. Remember, he tried to save Charlie, but couldn't, beacuse he found out she was going to die anyway. She was going to die, either from the brain tumor or Sylar. Hiro was then sent back into the present. But remember, Ando sees a picture of Hiro with Charlie, which didn't show Hiro earlier. Thus, Hiro CAN change the past, to a very small extent.

Perhaps what happened was this: Future Hiro, believing Sylar was the one who blew up, goes back in time to stop this. Sylar was originally the one who exploded. But he had Claire's ability, so he survived. By saving Claire, Future Hiro believes he can stop the explosion. But he can't. The explosion still happens, but now it's Peter who was the bomb. He survived because he saved Claire, and thus has her power. Sylar lives, to strike again.

Now, I believe the Linderman Act, which outlaws people with powers, is this: Nathan works with Linderman to become President. But he betrays the man. The Linderman act was created to stop major abuse of powers, which is what Linderman is doing. Anyways, once Future Hiro goes back in time, the Linderman Act was created by Sylar, to eliminate the competition.

So, basically, a few things will happen no matter what. The explosion will happen. Claire's death will happen.

It seems that what makes the Hatian so formidable is that he can't block anyone's powers. This means that shouldn't be able to take down Sylar for good. Also, remember when Sylar was supposedly dead in the Company facility. He escaped because everyone thought he was dead when he actually wasn't.

Anything dealing with the future is constantly pleagued with hypocracy and conundrums. Think about it this way. Personally, I think they should have done it, so that Claire really was dead in the future and say that Hiro jumped into the future that would have existed if he hadn't travelled back in time. Still, the revealation that "Save the cheerleader, save the world" isn't the be all end all of the show is rather releaving.

If Peter and Sylar fight shouldn't Peter eventually over come Sylar because as he uses more and more powers to fight Peter the stronger Peter gets. Also, the regeneration makes Peter almost invincible.

As for Molly, I suspect that her power is somehow related to power neutralization. Future Hiro wanted Molly to help him break into the facility where they were keeping Hiro. I suspect that her powers were intended to overcome the Hatian's powers.

The whole futurescape is riddled with holes. For instance, Parkman knew Bennet was hiding Claire and that she was Nathan's daughter. Yet, he kept the secret from the Sylar the whole time. I agree that Parkman should have been able to read Sylar's thoughts and detected the illusion. Also, how come we never heard of Linderman in the future? You would think that Linderman would be a key player in the course of future events.

I'm really looking forward to what Linderman has planned for Mikah. Now we know that it involves New York, since he is supposed to die when Peter explodes.

Am I the only one who actually liked the twist that Peter wasn't the one who exploded afterall and that Sylar suffers from the same problems of being overwhelmed by powers?

I don't think Molly's power will be similar to the Haitian's. I'm expecting it to be something that is only slightly related to another. So far, there has not been a person with the same, or practically the same, power as another, excluding Peter.

Peter was the one that exploded though, at least according to F-Peter. Sylar exploded first, because Future Hiro couldn't stop him because he had Claire's power. When F-Hiro went back in time to warn Peter to save the cheerleader, Sylar never gained that power, but Peter exploded and Nathan used Sylar as the scapegoat to cover up his brothers involvement.

Where did they say that Sylar can be overwhelmed by powers?

I think this is what happened. My answer above helps explain.

No, I'm talking about earlier in the season.

Sylar was captured by the company after he tried to kill Claire. He was in a company holding cell when he apparently died. The medical examiner went into the cell to perform an autopsy when miraculously was still alive. I'm wondering how it was that he survived.

Sylar's power allows him to 'see how things work'. Basically, Sylar watched the cockroach. Cockroachs' bodies allow them to shut them down, resembling death. Sylar, knowing how this works, forces his body to do the same.
In other words, Sylar learned how to fake death for an amount of time by watching a cockroach.

 

[Bass]

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I think that your argument is sound except for a number of things. Hiro can't change the past drastically. The past can be changed, but the outcome will remain the same. Remember, he tried to save Charlie, but couldn't, beacuse he found out she was going to die anyway. She was going to die, either from the brain tumor or Sylar. Hiro was then sent back into the present. But remember, Ando sees a picture of Hiro with Charlie, which didn't show Hiro earlier. Thus, Hiro CAN change the past, to a very small extent.

Not sure about this. We never get to see the picture without Hiro in it, do we? Ando just sees it after Hiro teleports. That doesn't mean it was never there. But, if it did appear, then...

Perhaps what happened was this: Future Hiro, believing Sylar was the one who blew up, goes back in time to stop this. Sylar was originally the one who exploded. But he had Claire's ability, so he survived. By saving Claire, Future Hiro believes he can stop the explosion. But he can't. The explosion still happens, but now it's Peter who was the bomb. He survived because he saved Claire, and thus has her power. Sylar lives, to strike again.

This makes a lot of sense. It's a damn good theory.

I don't think Molly's power will be similar to the Haitian's. I'm expecting it to be something that is only slightly related to another. So far, there has not been a person with the same, or practically the same, power as another, excluding Peter.

Good point.

Sylar's power allows him to 'see how things work'. Basically, Sylar watched the cockroach. Cockroachs' bodies allow them to shut them down, resembling death. Sylar, knowing how this works, forces his body to do the same.
In other words, Sylar learned how to fake death for an amount of time by watching a cockroach.

You are aware of how stupid that sounds, right?

But, I also must assume you are aware that it really, really does make sense. You really might be right.

Also, anyone else notice that Future Nathan/Sylar tells Mohinder while studying Hiro's map of time in Isaac's apartment, "I know how things work"? :twisted:

 

[DIrishB]

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From SpoilerFix.com, concerning the season finale:

I'm also told that the bomb will go off in the season finale but how and when it happens will prevent the loss of a mass of innocent life.

So that answers that question...as we all suspected, the bomb does go off. The "how" and "when" of it happening preventing the loss of a number of lives leads me to believe that it will work along the lines of the flashbacks we've seen. Maybe one of the heroes is able to warn city or government officials in time. Maybe with Nathan's new political sway, he can get the ball rolling on an evacuation of at least a portion of the city.

And as for "how" the bomb goes off without killing a bunch of people? I think Peter starts to go nova, and Nathan walks up to him, grabs him and flies him off somewhere high up before he explodes. This prevents loss of life on the ground, though it pretty much ensures Nathan dies...which works perfectly for Sylar to assume his role in the future. This is also something like what we saw in Peter's dreams, right up to the part where Nathan would fly off with him.

 

[Bass]

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"I'm also told that..." means that this may not be true.

Regardless, I think the idea of Nathan flying Peter into the sky to save the people's lives is what I've been guessing for a while, and it is a rocking ending.

If it does happen, this is a good thing, regarding the future. If Nathan dies in the explosion, Sylar can't get his powers. Which means he can't fly. What's more, that kind of death will probably be quite noticeable, meaning Nathan won't be president and stops Sylar from becoming the leader of the free world. *gnashes teeth*

It is also possible that Sylar will eat Nathan's and Candice's brains in episode 22. According to the synopsis, Sylar gets another power. Which means that the Nathan at the bomb scare might not be Nathan? :scared:

I NEED STRING AND PICTURES AND A MANHATTAN LOFT!

 

[darkspider]

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You are aware of how stupid that sounds, right?

But, I also must assume you are aware that it really, really does make sense. You really might be right.

Also, anyone else notice that Future Nathan/Sylar tells Mohinder while studying Hiro's map of time in Isaac's apartment, "I know how things work"? :twisted:

I know it sounds stupid, but it is the only plausible solution, as far as plausible can go when you have people with abilities. It beats something Bendis ould come up with :twisted: . This might just be something that'll never be answered, or the writers will answer it after the season finale.

"I'm also told that..." means that this may not be true.

Regardless, I think the idea of Nathan flying Peter into the sky to save the people's lives is what I've been guessing for a while, and it is a rocking ending.

If it does happen, this is a good thing, regarding the future. If Nathan dies in the explosion, Sylar can't get his powers. Which means he can't fly. What's more, that kind of death will probably be quite noticeable, meaning Nathan won't be president and stops Sylar from becoming the leader of the free world. *gnashes teeth*

It is also possible that Sylar will eat Nathan's and Candice's brains in episode 22. According to the synopsis, Sylar gets another power. Which means that the Nathan at the bomb scare might not be Nathan? :scared:

I NEED STRING AND PICTURES AND A MANHATTAN LOFT!

I saw that spoiler. I believe its from Kristin at E!. Some of her spoilers are whack. And she might be told this to throw her off. I don't doubt the explosion will happen. Who will explode, I'm leaving it open to Sylar, Ted or Peter. I think Episode 22's power is from Sylar's mom. He meets her next week, and in the preview you see blood on his hands.
Seriously, Sylar needs to go back to his nerdy ways some more. Nothing is more sinister than seeing a geek look at you with hungry eyes.

I really hope that the future we see in Episode 20 does not come to pass, in any way possible; I don't want any future that is related to that at all.

Everyone pretty much knows that Season 2 is all about the Nexus.

 

[Bass]

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I know it sounds stupid, but it is the only plausible solution, as far as plausible can go when you have people with abilities. It beats something Bendis ould come up with :twisted: .

:twisted:

Everyone pretty much knows that Season 2 is all about the Nexus.

I don't know. Tim Kiring hasn't called me up to confirm how many episodes I'm scheduled to appear in.

 

[Gideon Stargrave]

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If Sylar is going to be getting a new power, does anyone else think it might be Hiro's time/space abilities? It showed them fighting in the preview and I wouldn't be surprised if Tim Kring decides to be a bastard and kill of Hiro.

 

[Bass]

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I know, I know, I know, I know.

What gives me hope -

Sylar gets a new power in "Landslide", and Hiro confronts Sylar in "The Hard Part". Thus, Hiro won't die in "The Hard Part".

'Sides, of all the heroes, Hiro's the most invulnerable to Sylar, as he can teleport far, far, away.

I also think Hiro will send Ando away.

 

[darkspider]

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I know, I know, I know, I know.

What gives me hope -

Sylar gets a new power in "Landslide", and Hiro confronts Sylar in "The Hard Part". Thus, Hiro won't die in "The Hard Part".

'Sides, of all the heroes, Hiro's the most invulnerable to Sylar, as he can teleport far, far, away.

I also think Hiro will send Ando away.

Wait, send Ando away again? Like the first time? Or teleport him away when he does battle with Sylar. Besides, Hiro gets a girlfriend in season 2

 

[Bass]

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What's important is that Hiro is in season 2.

This is important.

To my mental well-being.

Honestly - Hiro was the only thing that kept me going through the first 8 episodes of Heroes.

 

[darkspider]

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What's important is that Hiro is in season 2.

This is important.

To my mental well-being.

Honestly - Hiro was the only thing that kept me going through the first 8 episodes of Heroes.

Heh.

I have 2 Spoilers from Spoilerfix.




Oh, and Hiro dies.....





















I'm joking.


Hard Part Spoiler:

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Zachary Quinto is rehearsing a scene in which Sylar confesses to his mother (Ellen Greene) that he has a nasty habit of murdering others of his freaky new ilk. (He spares her the part where he might be eating their brains, too.) Naturally, Mom is disappointed, so she grabs a knife and tries to gut him. The actors struggle — then they freeze. The physical universe has ground to a halt. It's Hiro time. Slipping into the scene, Masi Oka withdraws his sword from its sheath and prepares to bring it down on Quinto's head. Does the noble hero have the stones to decapitate a defenseless, time-paused soul, even one as nasty as Sylar? "I'm sorry," says Oka. Then, breaking character: "Don't worry. It's not sharp." Quinto, steely brown eyes unflinching, doesn't laugh. His response: "Bring it."

Finale and beyond:

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Entertainment Weekly went to the set during the shooting of the final three episodes. Their article reveals: Here's Hayden Panettiere, waving away offers of a stunt double as she runs and vaults through a fake window — the front end of a stunt that will send her indestructible cheerleader Claire out of a skyscraper and leave her splattered on the sidewalk. Here are Ali Larter (the schizoid superwoman Niki/Jessica) and Leonard Roberts (the walk-through-walls ex-con D.L.) flooded with emotion over being repeatedly manipulated by an underworld puppet master, Mr. Linderman (Malcolm McDowell). And here's the behind-the-scenes ringleader of this fantastic flying circus, Heroes creator Tim Kring, sauntering onto the set just minutes after writing the final sentence of the season's final episode, in which the show's sprawling, far-flung cast of next-gen X-Men will finally come together Super Friends-style in an attempt to save New York from being torched by a human A-bomb. [...] The finale — right down to its eye-popping last scene — sets the stage for a second season designed to expand the show's creative horizons and commercial potential even further. [...] "I thought I was signing up for a show called Heroes," says Adrian Pasdar, whose morally shaky politico Nathan Petrelli will make a choice in the finale that will affect the destinies of every character on the show. "I didn't know I was going to wind up on Survivor." [...] Kring admits he and his staff "struggled" with Larter's story line but insists "we're going to earn back a lot of goodwill when you see how she's connected to everything." Lessons have been learned, adjustments are being made. Next season, instead of one epic yarn stretched across an entire year, there are likely to be two tighter sagas, or "volumes" in the Heroes parlance. There will be more episodes that burrow deep into a single character — outings like "Company Man." [...] This is the present — a subterranean parking garage, where the Heroes gang is shooting some walk-and-talk that will address a key point in the final episode: Will Claire get sucked into the crazy-corrupt whirlpool that is her newly discovered kin, the Petrelli clan? "I get the sense there will be a lot of objects flying around," hints Quinto [about the finale], who won't comment on rumors that his breakout bad guy will indeed return next season. However, Sylar's Freudian-fraught fight with his mother does ignite the finale's apocalyptic endgame and puts him on the presidential path suggested by April 30's noodle-cooking "possible future" episode. "It's a bad day for the world," says Quinto. "I'm not going back to the watch shop anytime soon." The May 21 season capper will set up two big ideas for the second volume of Heroes, to be titled "Generations." The new saga will focus on putting the Heroes mythology in a grand historical context of superpowered family dynasties. "I know exactly where season 2 starts," says Oka. "It focuses on heritage, the family line, and the source of the powers." That means the "older" generation of heroes — including George Takei's Papa Nakamura and especially Cristine Rose's Mama Petrelli — should expect more screen time. [...] Then again, maybe it will: Instead of just a cheerleader or a city, "Volume 2: Generations" will concern a plot to save the entire planet. "All I know is that I'm going to be all over the world next year," says Sendhil Ramamurthy, whose nonpowered (or is he?) scientist Suresh will learn crucial info about his Indian past and his dead (or is she?) sister in the finale that helps set up next season. [...]

 

[Bass]

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Ok.

Ok.

Ok.

I haven't read the spoilers.

And it's really, really, hard for me not to.

I need to know - do the spoilers actually say specifically what will happen in the plot? Or are they more, "The actor who plays Sylar has signed a contract for season 2."

I don't mind spoiling if actor X is in season Y, or if we get vague things like, "Sylar eats another brain". I don't want to spoil, "Molly Walker's power is death-fu and she touches Sylar, who explodes, and then kills Nathan, whilst summoning evil-bionic Mohinder from 2030ad and his armada of Jet Puppies."

I'm really tempted to read those spoilers.

Darkspider - you have made a powerful enemy today, old chum.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

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They are exploring Hiro's family season two. They've said that for months.

He won't die.