Drunken Pickle
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Yeah, I was wondering where Claire's mom was too. Ha what if Loeb got fired for promoting Red Hulk? Isn't the Heroes comic DC property
Planet-man
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It was mainly the way she was dressed. Hot punk chick to this-shirt-makes-me-look-pregnant business school graduate.
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About 7 minutes into 3x04, I turned it off. I realised I still didn't care. Every so often they bring up an interesting idea, but the execution always disappoints me. And I don't even like any of the characters any more. I guess this show isn't for me. I'll get my dose of superheroes elsewhere. 
Bass
Nexus of the World
Okay.
So this was ****ing rubbish.
Let's start with the idea that the 9th Wonders comic was produced solely by Isaac Mendez.
Who has been dead for, like, 6 months. (Little help here Dib?)
And yet, presumably, 9th Wonders is still being published. In multiple languages. And no one thought to pick up a subscription to the comic? Hiro didn't think to BUY the comic company so he'd have access to it?
Remember in season 2 when there were six... ONLY SIX paintings by Isaac and everyone in the show was desperate to get a hold of them because they tell the future? It was kinda important that they could tell the future. And here is a monthly comic that no one seems to be interested in. Especially when you consider that Arthur Petrelli is aware of Hiro's capabilities and this would be of invaluable use to him. But then, season 2 didn't happen.
Also, let's remember that in season 1, Isaac died and there was one issue still unpublished - the one where Hiro kills Sylar. How on Earth is 9th Wonders still being published when a key issue isn't published?
If it got published, how? I can only assume that someone else is doing 9th Wonders.
Maybe the African.
Or maybe Isaac Mendez is Tupac Shakur.
But here's the thing - yes, someone else could be producing the comic... but WHY ON EARTH DOESN'T ANDO BRING THIS UP? He's not mentioned it. At all. He knows Isaac is dead. Matt does too. So... is anyone thinking this through?
Right - Hiro has amnesia. This still makes no sense. How did Arthur suddenly use his amnesia powers when he's never, ever used them before? Why did he let Hiro live instead of killing him?
While we're on the subject of Arthur Petrelli - he's supposed to be this terrifyingly powerful man who can choose who's President. Yet all his time is spent in a chair drawing. Where's his majestic entourage of highly paid bodyguards? I get he's in hiding, but still. Some imposing presence would be nice.
And also - why did Arthur send Samedi to get Nathan or Sylelle to get Claire? HE CAN TELEPORT TO MOTHER ****ING AFRICA AND RIP OFF A PRECOG'S HEAD. He can port to Noah, steal Claire, and ****ing WIN.
Back to Hiro - who has amnesia even though this makes no ****ing sense - we've been here before. Hiro having to learn his destiny. You know what? They're stalling like a 1905 Model T Ford. Hiro had all the answers, and for the last two weeks he's know **** all. And next week he might get them back in time for the cockteasing cliffhanger so in the following week he's something relevant.
Speaking of cockteasing cliffhangers - Noah had the opportunity to kill both Sylar and Elle and save Claire without any hassle at all. Now he's got a sniper rifle. It's such an unbelievable cocktease because you know he's not going to kill them.
And Hiro is still funny and awesome - even when he's undeniably ****. Masi Oka needs to be given his own TV channel.
Okay, back to HRG. I remember when he was a badass and not spouting every ****ing cliche from the **** episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer rip-offs. The whole "hit me to show me your true feelings" thing. What a ****ing bull**** piece of ****. I fast forwarded all of it. It was rubbish.
HRG had a shining moment when he kicked Sylar's ***, but even that was tinged with idiocy because it's Sylar. He's a good villain. The last time a non-powered guy stood up to him and it was awesome was Mohinder with the poisoned tea. But Sylar is a *****. And remember in season 2 when Sylar had no powers? Remember how that was ****? Well, here it is again. In surround ****. But then, that was season 2 and it didn't happen.
And as for Sylar and Elle... Last episode, Elle tried to murder Sylar repeatedly and suddenly, because of his compassion and desire to redeem himself forgave him and herself. Now, she's in love with him and encouraging him to go around ****ing people up. Then, later on in the episode, she claims she's terrible for turning him into a murderer even though she just tried to have him kill a harmless security guard. And Sylar decides that, yes, it would be fun to be a villain.
To reiterate: Elle hates herself and Sylar because Sylar is a murderer. Sylar desperately wants to be a good guy and goes off to kidnap Claire to appease his dad. Elle then convinces Sylar to be a bad guy and do his own thing and then the two of them do what Arthur Petrelli wants them to do and intend on having fun while killing and kidnapping Noah Bennet and his daughter. When it fails, Elle complains she's made Sylar a bad guy. Then they make out.
Does anyone even read these scripts?
I swear, this is perhaps the most horrifically inconsistent attempt at writing I've ever seen. It's ****ing pathetic. I wouldn't be surprised if each scene was written by a different guy in a room miles away from the others and assembled at random in the editing room.
I feel sorry for the actors. How can you 'act' this kind of rubbish?
Daphne's fear? She's ugly. Called it.
Okay - so she's crippled. But I knew it was completely a self-esteem thing and not anything so bad that it justified murdering innocent people and half the world for. Ironically, this would've worked if Daphne had remained the cool thief who stole the Mona Lisa.
But... this show has no balls. All the villains are rubbish and horrifically inconsistent being bad when the writers need them to be and then suddenly they get 'depth' by becoming bland, boring, excuses for villainy like "the hunger" and "I used to be crippled". **** them.
And Matt is still fun. Greg Grunberg is like Masi Oka and James Kyson Lee and Adrian Pastar. They're great even when what they're doing is unbelievably **** and boring.
And while we're on **** and boring... isn't it time Mohinder died? He has completely passed the point of being 'bad'. He's such an awful character with no real tie to the show anymore except delivering exposition and a rubbish voice over. **** it. Let him go and have a happy life with Maya. I don't care.
And then there's Peter and Nathan. First Samedi is an awesome name for a terrific sounding villain - a man who is invulnerable and thus is proclaimed as a god and wages a war on the Haitians.
WHY HAVE WE NOT SEEN HIM BEFORE?
Why wasn't "Volume 3: Villains" this:
The Haitian shows up, kicked to ****, at the Petrelli residence. He tells them his brother, a psychotic invulnerable superman has broken out of prison and starting killing everyone he can. And you know what? The Petrellis know about him because it's on ****ing CNN. And the Petrellis round up the series regulars and go to Haiti to wage a secret guerilla superhero war on Samedi, culminating in an awesome finale episode called "How to Stop an Invulnerable Man".
THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME.
NO, REALLY.
AWESOME.
I swear, it writes itself. Matt Parkman dealing with jungle warfare. Hiro cutting **** up with his sword. Nathan Petrelli as face-man. And Mr T.
PURE AWESOMITE.
Instead, we get Samedi, who has no powers, and fails to kill anybody or doing anything except work for another **** villain who's rubbish.
BUT HE COULD'VE BEEN THE NEXT SYLAR.
Idi Amin with superpowers. Hire Forest Whitaker and have him be Samedi.
THE SHOW WOULD BE THE HIGHEST RATED THING EVER.
You know what I actually, truly, liked in this episode?
Nathan and Peter. It was a good, believable relationship that they have, and one that's been ignored by the show far too much. They're brothers. They love and hate each other (as all siblings do). And they have real grudges. I loved their tension.
And you know what else I loved? Peter desperately searching for a purpose.
Sylar, originally, was all about just eating the brains and becoming 'special'. He stepped away from that and has become irrevocably ****. I say irrevocably, because he turned 'bad' in this episode and was still ****. He then lost his powers and thus, the 'hunger' and was still ****.
Peter, originally, was desperately trying to find out his purpose. Then he discovered he was the "one" with the uber-power and become a boring, bland character. And in this episode, it proved what I've always felt is true:
Peter should never have had any powers. Ever.
He's a far more interesting character because he has a view on the powers that no one else in the show does, which by definition, makes him unique and original.
To show you what I mean:
Sylar views his powers as something he deserves and goes out and takes them.
Nathan views his powers as an annoyance that potentially will **** up his career and life.
Hiro views his powers an a super cool heroic destiny that means he's awesome and he loves it.
Matt views his powers as something ****ing weird and as such, doesn't know what to do with them or make of them.
Ando has no powers but thinks that powers are an exciting game and encourages Hiro to use his powers all the time to be awesome.
HRG has no powers but views them as something dangerous and that they need to be controlled.
And on and on.
So, Peter, without powers, views them as the most important thing in the world and because he's denied them, he's continually going out trying to make sure people use them properly. He's going out encouraging people to use those powers to do the right thing because HE CAN'T DO IT HIMSELF. And that's terrific conflict. Jealousy and admiration walking side by side in his heart.
Peter, without powers, sticking his nose into every single hero-related situation, and doing the best he can, makes him an awesome hero, and very, very vulnerable. He's exciting.
What a *******ed waste.
Look at this eclipse. What was the ****ing point? So Claire can be hurt? The Haitian exists. So HRG could take on Sylar? Maybe you shouldn't have made them partners three episodes ago. (I swear, each episode is written by someone who isn't communicating with anyone else and has no knowledge of where it's going.) So Arthur would force Mohinder to make the formula? They were doing that already and can't do it without Claire. To cure Mohinder? He's a scientist. Let him work it out. That makes him GOOD at something. Or... Have Arthur STEAL HIS POWERS. You know what, in the future, Mohinder was a monster. Peter travelling back in time didn't create an eclipse, so it doesn't make sense. Except of course, they'll all get their powers back in a couple of episodes and Mohinder will become a bug again.
What was the point of the Eclipse? Same as the reason for giving Hiro amnesia.
The writers don't know what they're doing, so they're stalling for time by dragging out ****ty episodes and they don't know how to legitimately jeopardize their characters so they just depower them and have them get shot. I suppose their other method of adding jeopardy - having the characters act like ****ing morons or making the villains good guys - was wearing thin?
Well, I know how to add legitimately jeopardy to the show.
REAL VILLAINS.
Like a crazy genocidal mass murderer who thinks he's a God because he's completely invulnerable waging a jungle war in Haiti!
Goddamit. READ YOUR ****ING SCRIPTS YOU HACKS.
Agree do I.
It makes no sense at all. It's come out of nowhere and doesn't make sense since the previous generations of the company couldn't have all had their powers activate on eclipses because they are not that common and thus, you'd remember and the link would've been obvious.
It's a rubbish plot device to solve problems in a rubbish way.
RUBBISH.
And those pictures... Claire bleeding. She can regenerate. So she can bleed. Why does everyone assume in the picture that she's dead and not just temporarily injured?
I had this idea of doing THE DARK KNIGHT but with Jeph Loeb as the Joker and in the mob scene this happens:
Lil' Gamble: Give me one reason why I shouldn't have my boy here, pull your head off.
Joker: How 'bout a magic trick? *pulls out the Green Hulk face cover* I'm going to make this comic's fanbase... disappear! *waves his hand over the cover and replaces it with the Red Hulk face cover* TA-DA! It's... GONE.
Plot hole. That's what those vortexes were.
I'm fast beginning to feel this way too.
Also, I saw the preview for the next episode and it seems like a big cocktease with Claire maybe dying (she won't). I bet HRG gets a call from his wife and leaves Sylelle alive because he has to rush home that instant to watch his daughter be ill even though in two seconds Sylelle would be dead and Claire would still be in the same situation.
I'm starting to really hate this show. I really hope there's a discernible difference when Loeb 'leaves' but I don't think there will be.
To sum up: Heroes has not only jumped the shark, but it has ****ed the shark and had horrific hybrid shark babies made of pure ***.
So this was ****ing rubbish.
Let's start with the idea that the 9th Wonders comic was produced solely by Isaac Mendez.
Who has been dead for, like, 6 months. (Little help here Dib?)
And yet, presumably, 9th Wonders is still being published. In multiple languages. And no one thought to pick up a subscription to the comic? Hiro didn't think to BUY the comic company so he'd have access to it?
Remember in season 2 when there were six... ONLY SIX paintings by Isaac and everyone in the show was desperate to get a hold of them because they tell the future? It was kinda important that they could tell the future. And here is a monthly comic that no one seems to be interested in. Especially when you consider that Arthur Petrelli is aware of Hiro's capabilities and this would be of invaluable use to him. But then, season 2 didn't happen.
Also, let's remember that in season 1, Isaac died and there was one issue still unpublished - the one where Hiro kills Sylar. How on Earth is 9th Wonders still being published when a key issue isn't published?
If it got published, how? I can only assume that someone else is doing 9th Wonders.
Maybe the African.
Or maybe Isaac Mendez is Tupac Shakur.
But here's the thing - yes, someone else could be producing the comic... but WHY ON EARTH DOESN'T ANDO BRING THIS UP? He's not mentioned it. At all. He knows Isaac is dead. Matt does too. So... is anyone thinking this through?
Right - Hiro has amnesia. This still makes no sense. How did Arthur suddenly use his amnesia powers when he's never, ever used them before? Why did he let Hiro live instead of killing him?
While we're on the subject of Arthur Petrelli - he's supposed to be this terrifyingly powerful man who can choose who's President. Yet all his time is spent in a chair drawing. Where's his majestic entourage of highly paid bodyguards? I get he's in hiding, but still. Some imposing presence would be nice.
And also - why did Arthur send Samedi to get Nathan or Sylelle to get Claire? HE CAN TELEPORT TO MOTHER ****ING AFRICA AND RIP OFF A PRECOG'S HEAD. He can port to Noah, steal Claire, and ****ing WIN.
Back to Hiro - who has amnesia even though this makes no ****ing sense - we've been here before. Hiro having to learn his destiny. You know what? They're stalling like a 1905 Model T Ford. Hiro had all the answers, and for the last two weeks he's know **** all. And next week he might get them back in time for the cockteasing cliffhanger so in the following week he's something relevant.
Speaking of cockteasing cliffhangers - Noah had the opportunity to kill both Sylar and Elle and save Claire without any hassle at all. Now he's got a sniper rifle. It's such an unbelievable cocktease because you know he's not going to kill them.
And Hiro is still funny and awesome - even when he's undeniably ****. Masi Oka needs to be given his own TV channel.
Okay, back to HRG. I remember when he was a badass and not spouting every ****ing cliche from the **** episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer rip-offs. The whole "hit me to show me your true feelings" thing. What a ****ing bull**** piece of ****. I fast forwarded all of it. It was rubbish.
HRG had a shining moment when he kicked Sylar's ***, but even that was tinged with idiocy because it's Sylar. He's a good villain. The last time a non-powered guy stood up to him and it was awesome was Mohinder with the poisoned tea. But Sylar is a *****. And remember in season 2 when Sylar had no powers? Remember how that was ****? Well, here it is again. In surround ****. But then, that was season 2 and it didn't happen.
And as for Sylar and Elle... Last episode, Elle tried to murder Sylar repeatedly and suddenly, because of his compassion and desire to redeem himself forgave him and herself. Now, she's in love with him and encouraging him to go around ****ing people up. Then, later on in the episode, she claims she's terrible for turning him into a murderer even though she just tried to have him kill a harmless security guard. And Sylar decides that, yes, it would be fun to be a villain.
To reiterate: Elle hates herself and Sylar because Sylar is a murderer. Sylar desperately wants to be a good guy and goes off to kidnap Claire to appease his dad. Elle then convinces Sylar to be a bad guy and do his own thing and then the two of them do what Arthur Petrelli wants them to do and intend on having fun while killing and kidnapping Noah Bennet and his daughter. When it fails, Elle complains she's made Sylar a bad guy. Then they make out.
Does anyone even read these scripts?
I swear, this is perhaps the most horrifically inconsistent attempt at writing I've ever seen. It's ****ing pathetic. I wouldn't be surprised if each scene was written by a different guy in a room miles away from the others and assembled at random in the editing room.
I feel sorry for the actors. How can you 'act' this kind of rubbish?
Daphne's fear? She's ugly. Called it.
Okay - so she's crippled. But I knew it was completely a self-esteem thing and not anything so bad that it justified murdering innocent people and half the world for. Ironically, this would've worked if Daphne had remained the cool thief who stole the Mona Lisa.
But... this show has no balls. All the villains are rubbish and horrifically inconsistent being bad when the writers need them to be and then suddenly they get 'depth' by becoming bland, boring, excuses for villainy like "the hunger" and "I used to be crippled". **** them.
And Matt is still fun. Greg Grunberg is like Masi Oka and James Kyson Lee and Adrian Pastar. They're great even when what they're doing is unbelievably **** and boring.
And while we're on **** and boring... isn't it time Mohinder died? He has completely passed the point of being 'bad'. He's such an awful character with no real tie to the show anymore except delivering exposition and a rubbish voice over. **** it. Let him go and have a happy life with Maya. I don't care.
And then there's Peter and Nathan. First Samedi is an awesome name for a terrific sounding villain - a man who is invulnerable and thus is proclaimed as a god and wages a war on the Haitians.
WHY HAVE WE NOT SEEN HIM BEFORE?
Why wasn't "Volume 3: Villains" this:
The Haitian shows up, kicked to ****, at the Petrelli residence. He tells them his brother, a psychotic invulnerable superman has broken out of prison and starting killing everyone he can. And you know what? The Petrellis know about him because it's on ****ing CNN. And the Petrellis round up the series regulars and go to Haiti to wage a secret guerilla superhero war on Samedi, culminating in an awesome finale episode called "How to Stop an Invulnerable Man".
THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME.
NO, REALLY.
AWESOME.
I swear, it writes itself. Matt Parkman dealing with jungle warfare. Hiro cutting **** up with his sword. Nathan Petrelli as face-man. And Mr T.
PURE AWESOMITE.
Instead, we get Samedi, who has no powers, and fails to kill anybody or doing anything except work for another **** villain who's rubbish.
BUT HE COULD'VE BEEN THE NEXT SYLAR.
Idi Amin with superpowers. Hire Forest Whitaker and have him be Samedi.
THE SHOW WOULD BE THE HIGHEST RATED THING EVER.
You know what I actually, truly, liked in this episode?
Nathan and Peter. It was a good, believable relationship that they have, and one that's been ignored by the show far too much. They're brothers. They love and hate each other (as all siblings do). And they have real grudges. I loved their tension.
And you know what else I loved? Peter desperately searching for a purpose.
Sylar, originally, was all about just eating the brains and becoming 'special'. He stepped away from that and has become irrevocably ****. I say irrevocably, because he turned 'bad' in this episode and was still ****. He then lost his powers and thus, the 'hunger' and was still ****.
Peter, originally, was desperately trying to find out his purpose. Then he discovered he was the "one" with the uber-power and become a boring, bland character. And in this episode, it proved what I've always felt is true:
Peter should never have had any powers. Ever.
He's a far more interesting character because he has a view on the powers that no one else in the show does, which by definition, makes him unique and original.
To show you what I mean:
Sylar views his powers as something he deserves and goes out and takes them.
Nathan views his powers as an annoyance that potentially will **** up his career and life.
Hiro views his powers an a super cool heroic destiny that means he's awesome and he loves it.
Matt views his powers as something ****ing weird and as such, doesn't know what to do with them or make of them.
Ando has no powers but thinks that powers are an exciting game and encourages Hiro to use his powers all the time to be awesome.
HRG has no powers but views them as something dangerous and that they need to be controlled.
And on and on.
So, Peter, without powers, views them as the most important thing in the world and because he's denied them, he's continually going out trying to make sure people use them properly. He's going out encouraging people to use those powers to do the right thing because HE CAN'T DO IT HIMSELF. And that's terrific conflict. Jealousy and admiration walking side by side in his heart.
Peter, without powers, sticking his nose into every single hero-related situation, and doing the best he can, makes him an awesome hero, and very, very vulnerable. He's exciting.
What a *******ed waste.
Look at this eclipse. What was the ****ing point? So Claire can be hurt? The Haitian exists. So HRG could take on Sylar? Maybe you shouldn't have made them partners three episodes ago. (I swear, each episode is written by someone who isn't communicating with anyone else and has no knowledge of where it's going.) So Arthur would force Mohinder to make the formula? They were doing that already and can't do it without Claire. To cure Mohinder? He's a scientist. Let him work it out. That makes him GOOD at something. Or... Have Arthur STEAL HIS POWERS. You know what, in the future, Mohinder was a monster. Peter travelling back in time didn't create an eclipse, so it doesn't make sense. Except of course, they'll all get their powers back in a couple of episodes and Mohinder will become a bug again.
What was the point of the Eclipse? Same as the reason for giving Hiro amnesia.
The writers don't know what they're doing, so they're stalling for time by dragging out ****ty episodes and they don't know how to legitimately jeopardize their characters so they just depower them and have them get shot. I suppose their other method of adding jeopardy - having the characters act like ****ing morons or making the villains good guys - was wearing thin?
Well, I know how to add legitimately jeopardy to the show.
REAL VILLAINS.
Like a crazy genocidal mass murderer who thinks he's a God because he's completely invulnerable waging a jungle war in Haiti!
Goddamit. READ YOUR ****ING SCRIPTS YOU HACKS.
Agree do I.
It makes no sense at all. It's come out of nowhere and doesn't make sense since the previous generations of the company couldn't have all had their powers activate on eclipses because they are not that common and thus, you'd remember and the link would've been obvious.
It's a rubbish plot device to solve problems in a rubbish way.
RUBBISH.
And those pictures... Claire bleeding. She can regenerate. So she can bleed. Why does everyone assume in the picture that she's dead and not just temporarily injured?
I had this idea of doing THE DARK KNIGHT but with Jeph Loeb as the Joker and in the mob scene this happens:
Lil' Gamble: Give me one reason why I shouldn't have my boy here, pull your head off.
Joker: How 'bout a magic trick? *pulls out the Green Hulk face cover* I'm going to make this comic's fanbase... disappear! *waves his hand over the cover and replaces it with the Red Hulk face cover* TA-DA! It's... GONE.
Plot hole. That's what those vortexes were.
About 7 minutes into 3x04, I turned it off. I realised I still didn't care. Every so often they bring up an interesting idea, but the execution always disappoints me. And I don't even like any of the characters any more. I guess this show isn't for me. I'll get my dose of superheroes elsewhere.
I'm fast beginning to feel this way too.
Also, I saw the preview for the next episode and it seems like a big cocktease with Claire maybe dying (she won't). I bet HRG gets a call from his wife and leaves Sylelle alive because he has to rush home that instant to watch his daughter be ill even though in two seconds Sylelle would be dead and Claire would still be in the same situation.
I'm starting to really hate this show. I really hope there's a discernible difference when Loeb 'leaves' but I don't think there will be.
To sum up: Heroes has not only jumped the shark, but it has ****ed the shark and had horrific hybrid shark babies made of pure ***.
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ProjectX2
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****ing epic, Bass. I think you should stop watching Heroes and start watching Alias instead. Yes, it does get a bit carried away, and yes, it does suffer from the same problems most serialised TV series do, but it's still very entertaining. It's got a backstory that revolves around technology that was designed by a guy who was Da Vinci meets Nostradamus. And the whole thing is James Bond meets Indiana Jones. Except with Jennifer Garner. Who is hot. Also, Greg Grunberg and David Anders are in it. Often. Like every season. It also has that guy from other things playing her badass dad, one of the evillest people I've ever seen and lots and lots of guest stars. Like Quentin Tarantino. And Zoe from Firefly. And Danny Trejo. And David Carradine. It's awesome and has some insane plot twists.
I don't care whether you like it or dislike it, I just want to see your thoughts.
I don't care whether you like it or dislike it, I just want to see your thoughts.
Bass
Nexus of the World
I tried watching ALIAS because Jennifer Garner is sexy and I love her.
I didn't realise both Matt and Adam were in it and I should watch it for those two.
Unfortunately, the episodes I saw of ALIAS were pants and I didn't like I had to wait a week to find out what happened every week. It was annoying.
I'll try it if I ever get a hold of the box sets or really need a wank.
Also - update.
The Samedi arc ends with Nathan Petrelli flying Samedi into the mouth of a volcano.
Best. Season. Ever.
**** you THE WIRE. You ain't got **** on time-travellers fighting Haitian Gods in the heart of a volcano.
I didn't realise both Matt and Adam were in it and I should watch it for those two.
Unfortunately, the episodes I saw of ALIAS were pants and I didn't like I had to wait a week to find out what happened every week. It was annoying.
I'll try it if I ever get a hold of the box sets or really need a wank.
Also - update.
The Samedi arc ends with Nathan Petrelli flying Samedi into the mouth of a volcano.
Best. Season. Ever.
**** you THE WIRE. You ain't got **** on time-travellers fighting Haitian Gods in the heart of a volcano.
ProjectX2
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Yeah, I watched it in complete chunks of 4 episodes or so. I couldn't imagine watching it weekly. It would get really boring.
:lol:
Bass
Nexus of the World
Update #2
Samedi, after the Heroes have torn his army to pieces, dropped a mountain on him and buried him an inferno, his insanity at it's peak as his empire crumbles as he's defied be heretics and white men, he bursts out into the open in front of all the Haitian people completely unharmed, standing before innocents and murderers, civilians and soldiers, defiantly challenging all the heroes and bellows:
HERE I AM!
I AM THE MASTER OF YOUR DESTINY!
AHA!
I AM THE ONE! THE ONLY ONE! I AM THE GOD OF KINGDOM COME!
GIMME THE PRIZE! JUST GIMME THE PRIZE!
GIVE ME YOUR KINGS! LET ME SQUEEZE THEM IN MY HANDS!
HE-HEY!
YOUR PUNY PRINCES! *INAUDIBLE*
*MORE INAUDIBLE* THE BATTLE'S FOUGHT AND THE GAME IS WON!
I AM THE ONE, THE ONLY ONE! I AM THE GOD OF KINGDOM COME!
GIMME THE PRIZE! JUST GIMME THE PRIZE!
CLANCY BROWN VOICE MONTAGE!
And they all rock out and headbang.
I swear, this arc writes itself.
Samedi, after the Heroes have torn his army to pieces, dropped a mountain on him and buried him an inferno, his insanity at it's peak as his empire crumbles as he's defied be heretics and white men, he bursts out into the open in front of all the Haitian people completely unharmed, standing before innocents and murderers, civilians and soldiers, defiantly challenging all the heroes and bellows:
HERE I AM!
I AM THE MASTER OF YOUR DESTINY!
AHA!
I AM THE ONE! THE ONLY ONE! I AM THE GOD OF KINGDOM COME!
GIMME THE PRIZE! JUST GIMME THE PRIZE!
GIVE ME YOUR KINGS! LET ME SQUEEZE THEM IN MY HANDS!
HE-HEY!
YOUR PUNY PRINCES! *INAUDIBLE*
*MORE INAUDIBLE* THE BATTLE'S FOUGHT AND THE GAME IS WON!
I AM THE ONE, THE ONLY ONE! I AM THE GOD OF KINGDOM COME!
GIMME THE PRIZE! JUST GIMME THE PRIZE!
CLANCY BROWN VOICE MONTAGE!
And they all rock out and headbang.
I swear, this arc writes itself.
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DIrishB
The Timeline Guy
Season 1 - October, 2006
Season 2 & 3 - March, 2007
So yeah, 5-6 months, since Season 3 started on March 20, 2007 and the latest episode happens in late March.
I'd forgotten about that. Good point.
:lol:
This thread is pure awesomeness now. :lol:
I can't wait for next week's episode just to look forward to Bass' review.
Please don't stop watching Heroes, Bass...your reviews are just too good.
Bass
Nexus of the World
Thank you!
:lol:
This thread is pure awesomeness now. :lol:
I can't wait for next week's episode just to look forward to Bass' review.
Please don't stop watching Heroes, Bass...your reviews are just too good.
:lol:
Volunteer Fire Detective
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I wish I could be as creative with my attacks on the show as you are, Bass. I still find a few redeeming things in these episodes, but damn if I don't agree with everything you said.
And the Samedi business you have in that crazy head of yours would be amazing. Regardless of whether it would really work or not, one thing is clear: this season needs a REAL villain. A villain like season one Sylar, a villain who is legitimately evil, and only shows up in a few episodes. A villain whose presence is felt even when they're not on the screen, a villain who is scary and evil enough that you actually fear for the life of the other characters when he or she is on screen.
But instead, we have Arthur, who is, as has been said many times, a walking plot device; we have Sylar, whose character doesn't make any kind of ****ing sense any more and who really just needs to be put out of his misery at this point; we have Adam, or rather we don't have Adam because he was killed by the plot device; and all the rest are second-tier losers who couldn't evil their way out of a cardboard box (yes, I just verbed evil, whaddaya gonna do about it?).
Next season they're going to introduce a character named The Hunter played by Zeljko Ivanek; in what capacity, I don't know, but here's hoping that he's a villain, and a damn good one at that.
And the Samedi business you have in that crazy head of yours would be amazing. Regardless of whether it would really work or not, one thing is clear: this season needs a REAL villain. A villain like season one Sylar, a villain who is legitimately evil, and only shows up in a few episodes. A villain whose presence is felt even when they're not on the screen, a villain who is scary and evil enough that you actually fear for the life of the other characters when he or she is on screen.
But instead, we have Arthur, who is, as has been said many times, a walking plot device; we have Sylar, whose character doesn't make any kind of ****ing sense any more and who really just needs to be put out of his misery at this point; we have Adam, or rather we don't have Adam because he was killed by the plot device; and all the rest are second-tier losers who couldn't evil their way out of a cardboard box (yes, I just verbed evil, whaddaya gonna do about it?).
Next season they're going to introduce a character named The Hunter played by Zeljko Ivanek; in what capacity, I don't know, but here's hoping that he's a villain, and a damn good one at that.
Random
Didn't **** any of those *****es
This thread is pure awesomeness now. :lol:
I can't wait for next week's episode just to look forward to Bass' review.
Please don't stop watching Heroes, Bass...your reviews are just too good.
The only reason I come into this thread
Goodwill
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I watched the episode and I didn't think it was too bad. Didn't pick up as many little things as Bass did. He makes me hate episodes more after I watch them... Nothing gets past you, dude.
Anyway, what I really want to comment on is Nathan. He's been the best character recently... And I find this funny, too, because at the beginning of the season he was the one that I thought I'd grow to hate. That "I'm chosen by God" **** doesn't fly on this show, for some reason. I thought that was reaching too much. Now, Nathan is the guy that's affected by his father being alive more than anyone because he's the one his dad is after and he is the key to how this will all fall. I think he realizes this fate and acts reasonably given his situation. He's the most fleshed out, consistent character on the show right now. Followed by Peter, followed by HRG.
Anyway, what I really want to comment on is Nathan. He's been the best character recently... And I find this funny, too, because at the beginning of the season he was the one that I thought I'd grow to hate. That "I'm chosen by God" **** doesn't fly on this show, for some reason. I thought that was reaching too much. Now, Nathan is the guy that's affected by his father being alive more than anyone because he's the one his dad is after and he is the key to how this will all fall. I think he realizes this fate and acts reasonably given his situation. He's the most fleshed out, consistent character on the show right now. Followed by Peter, followed by HRG.
Bass
Nexus of the World
Agree with you on everything you said! Huzzah!
By next season, you mean 'next volume'. Which is called Fugitives. Obviously a bunch of the heroes have to run away from this The Hunter who has the power to find them. Maybe he drafts Molly Walker into finding them. Or Sylar. Since they're both good at finding power people.
:rockon:
You're right.
Nothing does get past me.
Also, "God" doesn't work on the show because it's the Hollywood idea of religion - in that it has no wisdom.
But you're right, Nathan is one of the best characters in the show. I think HRG has fallen far too far. I remember when it was actually a debate over who was more badass - HRG or Bauer.
It is quite obvious Bauer won, because he didn't do ****ty training montages with his daughter in an abandoned house with sticks of wood.
Goodwill
Well-Known Member
I agree and disagree. I thought this episode brought him back to the level of badassedness that he had from last season and in the very beginning of this season. I think the real problem with HRG is that he's not in the show enough. There are too many other, more annoying characters taking the limelight. But now that he's saying the only thing he wants to do is protect Claire no matter what extreme he may have to reach to and then he goes out with a sniper and has it aimed towards Sylar? He's moving out of pure passion - the love of his daughter and the hatred of the monster that he helped make... Adds up to who he is. That's badass.
DIrishB
The Timeline Guy
Obviously you didn't see the webisode series "24 - Day 6 and a 1/2, 3:37PM", where after a long day of battling terrorists, Jack sits down and watches "The Notebook", then proceeds to cry like a baby.
Bass
Nexus of the World
Super thrilling tv excitement action!
Random
Didn't **** any of those *****es
Goodwill
Well-Known Member
According to Newsarama, Heroes won't be on at all for the month of January. There will be two new shows instead of it and Chuck.
Also, the guy from Pushing Daisies and was from Season 1 is back. Will redemption be spelled Bryan Fuller?
Also, the guy from Pushing Daisies and was from Season 1 is back. Will redemption be spelled Bryan Fuller?
Bass
Nexus of the World
Maybe Goodwill... maybe.
Awesome scene.
Awesome parody. Very funny.
It does, once again, bring up a plot hole - Bob is dead. The Company still exists.
*sigh*
Awesome scene.
Awesome parody. Very funny.
It does, once again, bring up a plot hole - Bob is dead. The Company still exists.
*sigh*
