Captain America Movie

I don't like these schedules. The writers/directors should be given enough time as possible to make the best movie they can. I have a feeling some of these movies are going to be rushed.
 
ProjectX2 said:
I don't like these schedules. The writers/directors should be given enough time as possible to make the best movie they can. I have a feeling some of these movies are going to be rushed.
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I agree, but then again, its still like 3 years away. Given Marvel Studios has these films (the Avengers, Cap, Iron Man 2, Thor, etc) only on its schedule, I think it can be done well and still on schedule. So far the new PTB behind the Marvel brand movies seem to know what they're doing. I admit there is some trepidation on my part, as I'm always cautious about adaptations...I find its best to be cynical in the case of adaptations since 99% are terrible. We'll see if Marvel Studios continues the trend of critical and financial successes--the latter is almost guaranteed, the former remains to be seen.
 
The Plot synopsis has been released:

"Born during the Great Depression, Steve Rogers grew up a frail youth in a poor family. Horrified by the newsreel footage of the Nazis in Europe, Rogers was inspired to enlist in the army. However, because of his frailty and sickness, he was rejected. Overhearing the boy's earnest plea, General Chester Phillips offered Rogers the opportunity to take part in a special experiment… Operation: Rebirth. After weeks of tests, Rogers was at last administered the 'Super-Soldier Serum' and bombarded by 'vita-rays.' Steve Rogers emerged from the treatment with a body as perfect as a body can be and still be human. Rogers was then put through an intensive physical and tactical training program. Three months later, he was given his first assignment as Captain America. Armed with his indestructible shield and and battle savvy, Captain America has continued his war against evil both as a sentinel of liberty and leader of the Avengers."
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/the_first_avenger_captain_america/news/?a=5084
 
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I don't have time to read through all the different ideas presented and respond to them. I just want to say I think having the first movie done entirely in the WWII period would be a mistake. I don't mean that the first movie would be bad; you can make a very fine period film, but its future films, whether is Cap 2 or the Avengers, they will suffer from it. Here are my reasons:

First of you will have this huge style change between the two. With all the time between the movies it would just feel really weird. I know a lot of people don't focus on the style, the aesthetic looks, the set universe created, etc. But if you separate these two periods it will feel like two different types of Cap and ultimately the first one will feel like an out of continuity movie. Having both periods in one movie will maintain the look, the feel and the casting during the transition.
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I understand what you're saying, but i don't agree
Captain America is coming out a few months before Avengers so I think the connection will be clear. The different styles will add a dimention for the viewers to understand Cap's disorientation, etc. And there is probably going to be vastly different styles between the Thor movie and the Avengers movie just based on the fact that he is a mythical character.
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Second, I feel there are two major interesting aspect of Cap. One is his time displacement, and the other is his legacy as a super soldier. I feel that the time periods are better from a general view, but also needs more time to be really interesting and to be done well. I don't want the Avengers movie to be cap waking up having a few scene of "Woe is me" and then jump right into action. I think Fury would let Cap retire, not force him into a fight. And I think it's really important to get this character development right. To see things as he sees them, to go through this journey with him, to see him compelled to take up the shield again and find his place in this new world as it's protector. This "man lost in the modern world" story will be lost and we will lose the most interesting aspect of the character.

My third and final reason is that the Avengers movie will already have a tin of A–list actors and the potential for great interactions, but they will have to cater to Cap and his story. The Avengers movie should be about the team, maybe two characters have more focus, but they should dominate the screen. I don't want all these great characters to become glorified cameos. It should be cap, the unsure leader, Tony, they party boy who's more of a loner, Thor, who's against the very idea of a government super team, and Pym, the jerk. I feel these interactions would work much better if the film didn't have to go into Cap's revival.
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This doesn't need to be a huge part of the movie, just have a scene similar to the one in Ultimates where Cap is dealing with the transition and saying that everything he ever cared about is gone, Nick Fury says, 'not everything soldier, pan over to the American flag with God Bless America playing and fireworks going off in the background, or whatever. It will make most of the world groan, but it IS a big part of his character that he loves his country. Then for the rest of the movie he is doing his best to serve his country while still dealing with the culture shock. Again, it doesn't need to be the focus of the movie, just part of his character.
 
ProjectX2 said:
I don't like these schedules. The writers/directors should be given enough time as possible to make the best movie they can. I have a feeling some of these movies are going to be rushed.
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I don't think its too bad, because its not the same writers/directors on each movie, its four separate productions. Though the placement for Avengers does feel odd though I'm sure they've planned it out
 
I was thinking about the villain for this movie. Red Skull is obviously the first guy that comes to mind, but if this movie is going to set up the Avengers movie, then Cap's Ultimates story would work well, IF they do the Skrulls as the villains in Avengers. What I mean is, just taking some elements from Cap's Ultimate origin, like Incredible Hulk took some elements from Ultimate Hulk (Hulk being the result of a failed Super-Soldier serum). So if the entire movie takes place in the '40s, and if Cap "dies" at the end (maybe we could have a post-credits scene where he gets thawed out by SHIELD and Iron Man - "You won't believe what we just fished out of the Arctic Ocean"), then the movie would show a lot more than what is shown of Cap's origin in the Ultimates - maybe fighting some other Nazis with cameos by some Invaders. Kleiser would "die" also, and in the Avengers movie both would appear (Cap having been recently thawed out. Kleiser and the Skrulls would attack Earth, and the fugitive whom Tony Stark has been working to track down, Hulk, would end up having to defeat the Skrulls.

The extraterrestrial thing might not work, so they could just have Johann Schmidt/Red Skull in the movies instead of Kleiser and the Skrulls. I'd actually just have Red Skull appear in the Cap movie, not in Avengers. Also, I don't know much about the Skull, but why does his head look like an actual skull? I was reading up on his history, and it said that he was given a red helmet originally. I always thought that it was his actual skull, that his face had been burned off by chemicals or something. It might have been the 1990 Captain America movie that's confusing me.

Actually, I dunno....it might be a better movie if Cap woke up in the movie....woke up to an "alien" world, a completely different society than what he's known, and he has to come to terms with the fact that he's missed 60 years, that most of his family is dead, that his best friend and old girlfriend have married but are now very elderly (unless you go with the origin where Bucky dies in WWII). Nuclear weapons, which he fought so hard to keep out of the hands of the Fuhrer and his extraterrestrial brothers, are now owned by several countries....I just think that that's what makes Cap really interesting - awakening after 60 years, finding that the world has left him behind....that's the appeal, the interesting thing about him IMO. Even though that part of his story wasn't adopted in 616 until about 20 years after his first appearance, it's become an extremely important part of his character. I don't think a Cap movie that just takes place in the '40s would be as interesting. I dunno.



All of the Cap references in Marvel movies in the same continuity:
In Iron Man, part of Captain America's shield can be seen in Tony Stark's workshop. An exclusive comic book released with the Wal-Mart deluxe DVD version of Iron Man confirms the appearance of the shield. It claims that Tony Stark's father created the technology for the shield, and Stark used a discarded prototype to help design the alloy used for the Iron Man suit. In The Incredible Hulk, General Ross mentions to Emil Blonsky that there was a World War II program that created a supersoldier serum. The supersoldier serum is shown as well as Dr. Reinstein referenced as its inventor.
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Langsta said:
All of the Cap references in Marvel movies in the same continuity:

In Iron Man, part of Captain America's shield can be seen in Tony Stark's workshop. An exclusive comic book released with the Wal-Mart deluxe DVD version of Iron Man confirms the appearance of the shield. It claims that Tony Stark's father created the technology for the shield, and Stark used a discarded prototype to help design the alloy used for the Iron Man suit. In The Incredible Hulk, General Ross mentions to Emil Blonsky that there was a World War II program that created a supersoldier serum. The supersoldier serum is shown as well as Dr. Reinstein referenced as its inventor.
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Has anyone picked up the Wal-Mart Deluxe version of the Iron Man DVD? I wonder about the comic included. Is it the same as the one released on the Marvel Digital Comic site, also scheduled to be released along with the Digital Comic exclusive Incredible Hulk/Nick Fury Prequel comic in actual comic form in December? Or is it an original tale or adaptation/expansion of the movie itself?

I already own the regular Iron Man DVD, bought from Amazon. Just wondering if its worth shelling out the cash to buy the Wal-Mart Deluxe version for the comic.
 
I have it.

It's a retelling of the movie from Fury's perspective. It's not worth shelling out for another DVD. The Wal-Mart version also has the first episode of the Nicktoon's Iron Man cartoon out next year. It's written by Chris Yost.

It was garbage. Utter garbage. Avoid.
 
Foolsfolly said:
I have it.

It's a retelling of the movie from Fury's perspective. It's not worth shelling out for another DVD. The Wal-Mart version also has the first episode of the Nicktoon's Iron Man cartoon out next year. It's written by Chris Yost.

It was garbage. Utter garbage. Avoid.
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Ah, ok, thanks. As for the comic, sounds like what is going to be re-printed in IRON MAN/HULK/FURY # 1.
 
The Hollywood Reporter declares that Joe Johnston has officially signed a deal with Marvel to direct First Avenger: Captain America. No writers or actors are on board yet for the WWII-era superhero flick.
The Hollywood Reporter's Borys Kit said:
Johnston first met with Marvel two years ago. When the two parties clicked, general talks turned into Captain America-specific meetings, with much of the project's current direction resulting from those early conversations.

"This is a guy who designed the vehicles for 'Star Wars,' who storyboarded the convoy action sequence for 'Raiders of the Lost Ark,' " Feige said. "From 'Rocketeer' to 'October Sky' to 'The Wolfman,' you can look at pieces of his movies and see how they lead to this one."
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Johnston most recently directed Benicio del Toro and Anthony Hopkins in "The Wolfman," which is currently in post-production. Read more here.
 
The article also says the movie will be set during WWII, and he'll be thawed out for Avengers, as for Johnston I can't really make an opinion until I see The Wolfman.
 
I'm glad to see some progress in preproduction, Still not a fan of the entire movie as a period piece
 
Not to mention Pagemaster and Jumanji!

Based on Rocketeer, if they get the right director this could be quite excellent.
 
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