Bryan Singer on Ultimate X-Men.

At least Singer isn't writing it himself. As I've been told by countless people, he can't write for nothing. But he is good with coming up with ideas and how to do them. That's about the only thing he can really do. But with Vaughun along for the ride, it's gonna be great to read.


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Well, Ice, in all fairness, he has to be able to write. He's got a show on Fox, I think, and he's a director whose been on two huge movies... People know what they are looking for and, if it's Singer, they'll take him because he's capable. The people that don't like him are the fans, who don't matter.

I think that Vaughan coming on and being Singer's crutch is good. This will only lead to a better continuity and a stronger story, focused on a team rather than Wolverine.
 
Goodwill said:
Well, Ice, in all fairness, he has to be able to write. He's got a show on Fox, I think

Is he writing it?

Goodwill said:
and he's a director whose been on two huge movies

Writing and directing are two very different things.
 
Sorry for being confusing! I was just saying that there has to be some kind of talent that he has to be the person he is right now.
 
His ideas. And the way he 'executes' the ideas. He's a great director. He just seems to have trouble with writing ideas on paper.
 
Goodwill said:
Sorry for being confusing! I was just saying that there has to be some kind of talent that he has to be the person he is right now.

I agree completely, I just don't know that it's writing.
 
Singer's Run

I know that most of us here on UC aren't anticipating this arc being good both character-wise and continuit rise, but as Vaughan's run draws to an end, we might as well swallow our distaste for the X-Men movie director and speculate what he's going to be about for 12 issues... I'm not too thrilled even typing this up, however, Vaughan assurs us that his run will be awesome, and if we can't trust Vaughan's word, whose can we trust?

Anyway, I think that this run is going to heavily focus on the aftermath of what Vaughan may introduce into the title in his last five issues, all of which are supposed to follow a rehashed Brotherhood, or so he has hinted at in his forum. I think that this will lead to a Magneto return and it will give Singer an oppurtunity to kick around stuff that he did not get to do in the movies, which, I think, may be the best idea for him. I think it would keep him out of trouble.

Also, there are tons of other things that he could be doing as well such as Apocolypse and Phoenix, both entities something I would be interested in seeing in his run, especially an elaboration on Apocolypse.

What would you guys like to see?
 
I am sure that Gambit will play a part (as Singer has gone on about how he wants to play with that character), the danger room will feature (since it's been 2 films and he never had the money to do it), and possibly Beast (I know he's dead, but can you imagine Marvel telling Singer he can't do what he wants), and Proteus (another character he liked).

I personally, think the arc will be fine. It'll be better than Bendis', but not as good as Vaughn or Millar.

The reason? I think Singer will be having a lot of fun writing it - even though I hated the X-Men films, I honestly think that since Singer is taking something over and he's got an infinite budget (as it were) he'll do a better job than he did in the films.

Hey, the guy who directed The Usual Suspects can't be all bad. :)
 
Well, my initial problem with Singer was that he came into this saying that he wanted the Ultimate X-Men to become more like the movie X-Men, which shouldn't be done because they are two different teams. I know that the casts are extremely similar, however, the characters are different and a lot of what has happened hasn't been brought into the UU so it's hard to do. Another thing is is that he's Wolverine heavy. Marvel has made it clear that they can no rely less on Wolverine by taking him out of the UXM for a while, however, I can sense Singer put a cloud over Wolverine's head and I've got a feeling we're going to see a lot of that. I mean, Cyclops, the leader of the X-Men, was pushed into a miniscule role in the second film, which I wasn't too happy about. Also, it seemed that he'd over look everything that the other writers had already done and do his own thing, which isn't completely bad, but to say that you're going to do that is sort of bad, since a lot of what the other writers on this title have done is leave certain things open for other writers to build on. Maybe this is why Vaughan's coming in with the five-part arc to wrap things up, however, I do feel that Singer should add to continuity, not ruin it.

His ideas may or may not be good, however, I would like to see an elaboration on Gambit. He's a character that I really like in the Ultimate Universe because, he may not be on a team, but he's actually pretty important. I'd say he'll leave Beast dead, however, stranger things have happened... The Danger Room shouldn't be too big of a deal, however, I would like to see some of the characters training or whatever. It's always cool to see characters max out and the DR is an oppurtunity to see that. Also, Proteus may not be a good character to mess around with... I thought Millar was going to do something with him, too, since he liked the character, too. We'll see, though. Maybe a Proteus return is just what this title needs. After all, that was one of my favorite arcs.

We'll see, though.
 
Goodwill said:
Well, my initial problem with Singer was that he came into this saying that he wanted the Ultimate X-Men to become more like the movie X-Men, which shouldn't be done because they are two different teams.

I seriously doubt that Singer is receiving as much creative license as people are inclined to believe. True, he's made some off the wall statements like bending the Ultimate universe to fit the X-Men movie-verse, but that could or could not be a figurative way of saying that he sees the Ultimate X-Men and Movie X-Men having a slightly shared vision of reimagining mutants as being part of a larger world that does indeed react to the presence of the posthumans. (And if you've noticed my recurring babble about "superhuman (ugh) zeitgeist" you know where I'm going with this) After all, even in 616, the stories of the X-Men are what really made the concept seem topical within superheroes.

And we must realize of course, that whatever Singer has done with the movies doesn't necessarily translate to his writerly mandate of what's going on with the title. If anything, Singer as a fan of the comic books is really nothing more than a fanboy who is getting his chance to write the books due to having a VERY VERY VERY high profile. A fanboy who parlays into success into comics? Don't we know someone else like that? Oh yeah, his name is Joss Whedon.

I'd be sad to see Vaughan go, but if Singer wants to dabble his feet in the pool of comic book writing, I wouldn't mind seeing him do it with the X-Men. (Although in all honesty, I'd prefer if it was a non-Ultimate title, but that's a differnet discussion altogether)
 
You honestly don't think he's taking any liberties by having the UXM preview pages read "Bryan Singer Presents..."? I mean, this is what we're talking about... Off the wall, yes, but I wouldn't say that it's just because he's a fan. On the contrary, I think he's told everyone that he wasn't a fan of the X-Men until well into the production of the first movie. I don't really think that we can trust what he's saying at this point or, at least, disregard what he's said. I do think that you are right in saying that the editors won't allow the title to become the movie, however, we'll still have to put up with his lively creativity (C'mon... A machine that turns people into mutants?)
 
Goodwill said:
You honestly don't think he's taking any liberties by having the UXM preview pages read "Bryan Singer Presents..."?

I thought that was supposed to be appearing on the cover...?

I wouldn't mind the inner page as much. It's still unneccessary ego-stroking but hey, whatever floats his boat. :roll:
 
UltimateE said:
I thought that was supposed to be appearing on the cover...?

I wouldn't mind the inner page as much. It's still unneccessary ego-stroking but hey, whatever floats his boat. :roll:
You are correct on both counts.
 
I think Singer's run is going to be good... like real good...

All the worry that he might change things to mirror what he's done in the movies is unnesessary. The man's a professional he's gonna take care of business the right way and his run will be one for the books.

I'm a big Singer fan... just my thoughts.
 
Well, hey, we don't have Whedon's name in brightlights on the covers of Astonishing, do we? That's a bit much and, if I were Marvel, I'd can that idea real quick. He's not THAT impressive...

Also, why is this marked as Ice's thread? I started it...
 

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