SO...
the Annual was a waste of money

The lizard did indeed kill Billy Conners and then evolved into a more intelligent, more hairy lizard that can cause humans to give in to their baser instincts and act like lizards... meh.
those are two separate thoughts, by the way. The Annual was about Spidey and Cap, the Lizard story was in ASM #632

Dude! Even if you don't like the story (I don't think it's bad, although it's not a great story), that gorgeous Bachalo art is worth the price of admission alone. Bachalo makes the story worth telling.

Yeah, the art was pretty cool. I just didn't think much of the story.
 
Marvel.com:
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #642
Written by MARK WAID & STAN LEE
Penciled by PAUL AZACETA & MARCOS MARTIN
Cover by MARKO DJURDJEVIC
Variant Cover by JOHN ROMITA, SR.
A five part spider-odyssey begins in ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES!
With Peter Parker's ONE MOMENT IN TIME behind him and Mary Jane back in his life, Spidey finds himself ready for a new start ... but the various threads of his life since his BRAND NEW DAY are about to crash together violently. When Norman Osborn's baby is born ... every villain on the planet wants the first ever strain of pure Goblin blood, leaving Spider-Man's friends and family exposed to a Sinister plan that threatens to bring down every strand or Peter's life that's been stitched together carefully over the past few years. It may be a cliché to say it ... but after ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES absolutely nothing will be the same. Also this issue, we begin a series of covers by the brilliant Marko Djurdjevic that when all put together will form a giant wall-sized Spider poster featuring the people in Spider-Man's life! Plus ... the Spidey Sunday feature continues breaking the 4th wall of Web-swinging Wonder by legends Stan Lee and Marcos Martin (well, Stan's a legend ... Marcos is just a man who draws like one.)
32 PGS./Rated A ...$2.99


...I'm going to assume that doesn't mean what it sort of sounds like it means, you know what I mean?
 
But his kids with Gwen would be the first ever with "pure Goblin blood". Or has that now been retconned?
 
But his kids with Gwen would be the first ever with "pure Goblin blood". Or has that now been retconned?

no it hasn't been retconned, and no they wouldn't be pure blood goblin since Gwen was not a goblin.

Lilly however is menace, and she is pregnant with Norman's kid. Two goblin parents, hence "pure Goblin blood"
 
no it hasn't been retconned, and no they wouldn't be pure blood goblin since Gwen was not a goblin.

Lilly however is menace, and she is pregnant with Norman's kid. Two goblin parents, hence "pure Goblin blood"

Aahhh - that's right. Thanks.
 
no prob.

But that makes me wonder. Since Gabe and Sarah had accelerated aging b/c of the Goblin formula mutated DNA from Norman, what's going to happen to Lilly's baby?




S/he'll probably have brains in his/her butt.
 
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no prob.

But that makes me wonder. Since Gabe and Sarah had accelerated aging b/c of the Goblin formula mutated DNA from Norman, what's going to happen to Lilly's baby?




S/he'll probably have brains in his/her butt.

Post of the Day.
 
yeah, so I wasn't a big fan of Shed over all.

Grim Hunt, on the other hand started off well. I do like that they're tying in JMS' Spider totem stuff into the story.

I don't think the two back-up stories were worth the extra dollar I had to pay.
 
I liked Shed, since it moves the Lizard out of stagnant territory. I liked the beginning of Grim Hunt too, even though I'm not really familiar with JMS's stuff. Also, did anyone read the first issue of the Black Cat mini? It was pretty good.
 
I don't get the "Shed" hate... I honestly don't think I've read a better Lizard story ever.

Just the one panel with him looking up at the plane... "That isn't a bird." It's great.
 
I don't get the "Shed" hate... I honestly don't think I've read a better Lizard story ever.

Just the one panel with him looking up at the plane... "That isn't a bird." It's great.

i don't think there's a whole lot of it going around. It's just me. And I didn't hate it. I liked the whole lizard brain/monkey brain thing (regardless of my issues with the underlying philosophy) It was a cool way to explore what was going on in Conners/lizard's head. As a way to explore the character, it was cool; but there wasn't really a story. This could have been a really powerfully sad story if Billy's death had been the climax. If that had been built up to and made a bigger deal. But it was sort of done in passing and the mind control, or "releasing the lizard brain" in all the people became the big conflict.

I guess it just felt like a set up for something else rather than an actual story.
 
So who the hell was that that came out of the ground at the end of Grim Hunt pt 1?
 
Ah. And this werewolf-y thing is new to him as part of the resurrection, I guess?
 
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Yep.

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