Re: Amazing Spider-Man series discussion (spoilers)

Also:

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I think people are looking at this all wrong , I think Jameson kissed Peter , most likely in an attempt to seduce him in to finding out who Spider-man is (since he is masked again) But look at Peter's hands he's holding Jameson's nose with one and pulling him off with the other. Peter will not be easily seduced.



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If that turns out to be an inverted two-page spread I will laugh in the face of everyone who buys that issue.
 
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I still don't know how One More Day makes sense. Peter and MJ are never married and somehow everyone forgets that Peter is Spider-Man? Why? What about the people who knew before Civil War? What? I don't get it. How? My mind. **** **** ****. I hate Quesada and his stupid changes. Magic? What the ****? You can't use magic as an excuse, you ****. WHAT THE ****.

*explodes*
 
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I still don't know how One More Day makes sense. Peter and MJ are never married and somehow everyone forgets that Peter is Spider-Man? Why? What about the people who knew before Civil War? What? I don't get it. How? My mind. **** **** ****. I hate Quesada and his stupid changes. Magic? What the ****? You can't use magic as an excuse, you ****. WHAT THE ****.

*explodes*

people who knew before will still know like Norman Osborn , Iron Man ect... right?






My question is this , If everything has changed for Peter to make him more like spider-man (which IMO is cool) but wont this effect avengers (he was/is in that right?) Iron man's scarlet spiders , Thunderbolts as for e.g they found Norman after Marvel knights where spider-man beat him for kidnapping his wife? (since he never had a wife) Also due to that plan Scorpion was in the right place to be venom so he shouldn't be anymore

There is so much more too that should have changed because of this but didn't I don't get it. If and I know this has been disgust before but If you create something like this shouldn't they have thought of all the changes this SHOULD create?
 
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I still don't know how One More Day makes sense. Peter and MJ are never married and somehow everyone forgets that Peter is Spider-Man? Why? What about the people who knew before Civil War? What? I don't get it. How? My mind. **** **** ****. I hate Quesada and his stupid changes. Magic? What the ****? You can't use magic as an excuse, you ****. WHAT THE ****.

*explodes*
I'm with ya buddy,

oh and I've decided to drop ASM, it's to late for me to cancel getting the first ish (goofy pull list rule at my LCS), this bull crap i just can't deal with

people who knew before will still know like Norman Osborn , Iron Man ect... right?
nope, there is a two page spread by JRJR, that clearly states that nobody but NOBODY know's who he is, even Daredevil (who had figured out who peter was solely by listening to his heart beat in the 80's)

My question is this , If everything has changed for Peter to make him more like spider-man (which IMO is cool) but wont this effect avengers (he was/is in that right?) Iron man's scarlet spiders , Thunderbolts as for e.g they found Norman after Marvel knights where spider-man beat him for kidnapping his wife? (since he never had a wife) Also due to that plan Scorpion was in the right place to be venom so he shouldn't be anymore

There is so much more too that should have changed because of this but didn't I don't get it. If and I know this has been disgust before but If you create something like this shouldn't they have thought of all the changes this SHOULD create?
"We don't have to explain it, IT'S MAGIC"
 
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Ok NO one knowing , that pisses me off as some villains e.g Green Goblin , having them know who he is , is great as it lets them do personal attacks.




"We don't have to explain it, IT'S MAGIC"

but :x yes they do! (i know your not the one who said that before I go on) it's not something that needs explaining it's something that is FACT you cange one thing that caused alot of stuff then that stuff could not have happened. FACT.

I give up .... still cool to see him like proper spider-man but my god
 
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Ok NO one knowing , that pisses me off as some villains e.g Green Goblin , having them know who he is , is great as it lets them do personal attacks.






but :x yes they do! (i know your not the one who said that before I go on) it's not something that needs explaining it's something that is FACT you cange one thing that caused alot of stuff then that stuff could not have happened. FACT.

I give up .... still cool to see him like proper spider-man but my god

Let's all just pretend that ASM is taking place in it's own little pocket universe right now, I propose Earth-666 (makes sense cuz of Mephisto's involvement)
 
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The only thing worthwhile about all of this is how they're handling Harry Osborn, who is a dark enough character to be allowed to divorce Liz Allen because they sure as hell can't retcon her and normie, because that gets into Daredevil territory.

I want more Harry, less Jackpot (*vomits*), and somebody to beat the **** out of the editor for deciding that NOBODY... Not Norman Osborn, not Aunt May, not MJ, not Tony Stark, that NOBODY remembers his secret identity. It. just. DOES. NOT. MAKE. SENSE!!!
 
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The only thing worthwhile about all of this is how they're handling Harry Osborn, who is a dark enough character to be allowed to divorce Liz Allen because they sure as hell can't retcon her and normie, because that gets into Daredevil territory.
I agree with this.

Is Liz Allen still as delusional and in constant self-denial as she was back in the 90s? Because I liked that too.

J.M. DeMatteis, was for the most part, one of the only good writers on a Spider-book from 1992 onwards.
 
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After reading #546, that's making so much sense. :D

Is anyone else reminded of this quote from Astonishing X-Men?

"J. Jonah Jameson'll be tounge-kissing Spider-Man before the X-Men get any good press."

Good memory!


Anyhow, just read #546.

Haven't had this much enjoyment from a Spidey comic since SPIDER-MAN LOVES MARY JANE.

I had a good feeling about Dan Slott because he wrote on my favourite scenes of Spidey ever - in SHE-HULK.

She-Hulk is suing the Bugle for its libelous attacks on Spider-Man. Spidey is in court, taking the witness stand and She-Hulk's attorney friend, Pug, asks Spidey, "Why does Jonah hate you so much?"

Spidey responds, "It's because I'm black."

****ing awesome scene. It kept up its brilliance when Pug calls Peter Parker to the stand and attacks him for hating Spidey.

Slott did some sweet stuff in this issue; the Spider-Mugger mugging Peter Parker for example and the ensuing "Take this excuse for I need to change into my hero guise!" and the whole, "They took your shoes!". I laughed a lot. The panel before Jonah's heart attack, the growling, had me in hysterics.

Also - I liked how it turns out Spidey isn't 'gettin' lucky' with the chick on the first page, like we all thought. And it wasn't just shock value (though there was a healthy dose of it), they developed Mia from a manhungry lech to manipulative golddigger.

Yeah, pretty much liked everything.

But I didn't care for Carlie. Dull as ****. Crimebusting nerd-hotness with no self-esteem (but can STAND UP TO A MUGGER)... stupid, dull character. No interest there at all.

Mary Jane as Jackpot... it's a cool idea. I've said for ages that I think MJ as a superhero could work really well BUT I'm not sure here because the environment in which she's a superhero is so different. She's a legal, public superhero (as opposed to a vigilante) and is currently not on good terms with Spidey/Peter. So... she's really too similar to Black Cat. The reversal is in Black Cat is a criminal and Spidey's not - but basically, superhero on-off girlfriend with similar powers on the other side of the law... we've been there before.

However - MJ as a superhero; calling her Jackpot is a ****ing great idea.

Mister Negative... I think he should've been jet black with the same suit. The shading on his skin makes him too white/blue and doesn't sell the whole "negative" thing. What's worse is... Mister Negative looks like a Batman villain. I don't think he's going to turn out to be any good, sadly.

Also - some arbitrary nonsense: Harry can divorce multiple times but Peter can't. That's just silly.

And finally - I don't think the news would be talking about Spidey being missing nor the Bugle's drop in circulation. It's kinda like Batman's "urban legend" status - do people believe he's real or not? Is Spidey ignored and hated or loved as a kid's icon? It annoys me because if they need him to be hated, then Manhattan hates him. If they need him to be loved, then they love him ('cept for Jonah). I think it's always much more interesting is Spidey is just hated at worst or ignored at best. The tv news scene should've been done surreptitiously through the Bugle. The Bugle would talk about how they've successfully driven Spidey out of Manhattan. And guess what? THAT'S IN THE COMIC. The news scene is completely redundant and I think the idea that Spidey's mask is a huge hallowe'en seller... in real life, cool. In Spidey's world, no. At least not for me.

3/5 Tafts. Lots of fun. A couple of missteps, but a lot happens, it hits the ground running, and it's entertaining.

And... it's Spider-Man. Through and through. Yay! :D
 
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It was... enjoyable. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. However, it doesn't excuse all of the ****ty mess it's taken to get here... because that was retarded. But this is a good Spider-Man. I like this Spider-Man. See, this would be a brilliant Ultimate Spider-Man. Maybe if Marvel hadn't stopped ignoring the UU, then both 616 and UU Spider-Man could be great. But instead of we've got big messes.

I won't pay for this, but I'll read it. Because I liked Spider-Man. And I want to like him again. I hope these writers/artists can make Spider-Man great again... without anymore of these stupid changes and events.

One More Day was stupid. Brand New Day... I hope it's going to be great.
 
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I just read #546.

I liked it.

I think I might start reading this regularly.

Marvel royally screwed up by the deal with the devil thing but I tell ya, they are making the most of it. I hate the idea of it still but #545 and 546 have been pretty darn good.

I'm not super familiar with Dan Slott's work but he kind of reminds me of Mark Millar in that he is able to make the most of small details. And of course McNiven is great - good choice putting him on the book.

I also read that two page explanatory spread and had to laugh - some people remember Spidey unmasking on TV but can't remember who it was? Are you ****ing kidding me? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
 
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I also read that two page explanatory spread and had to laugh - some people remember Spidey unmasking on TV but can't remember who it was? Are you ****ing kidding me? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Magic. We don't have to explain it.
 
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The issue was good but thing that really pisses me off about it is that it just screams that no one can create a good supporting character except for Stan Lee
 
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A thought came to me. From what we are lead to believe, NOONE at all knows who Spiderman is.

What about the Venom symbiote? To exist in its normal state, doesn't it have to know who Spiderman is?
 
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A thought came to me. From what we are lead to believe, NOONE at all knows who Spiderman is.

What about the Venom symbiote? To exist in its normal state, doesn't it have to know who Spiderman is?

Well I think you can assume Brock knows, unless they did a clean slate thing, cause if Stark knew he'd have Peter arrested
 
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Well I think you can assume Brock knows, unless they did a clean slate thing, cause if Stark knew he'd have Peter arrested

It made me think when I was reading the interview on AICN with Dan Slott and Steve Wacker. They said..

@: The first issue of BND clearly states that no one knows that Peter is Spidey. No one, huh? Not even his buddy The Human Torch or his teammates in the New Avengers?

SW: Nope. No one.

DS: What? Steve, did we just invalidate my entire SPIDER-MAN/HUMAN TORCH mini-series?! Darn it!
 

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