In general I disagree with your assertion that Heath's role was this perfectly constructed thing that all of these different actors could have filled. You are forgetting from the entire internal side of acting, and how much of this performance came from Heath and not Nolan. This wasn't a paint-by-numbers Joker by any means. You can tell the passion he put in that role, absolutely.
I don't think it was a perfectly constructed thing that was given to him as instructions or anything.... I think it was a fairly loose and obvious way to play the character that I assumed most people would've just come up with on their own. That's part of the reason I'm saying I think even I could've played it.... the way he delivered a lot of those lines and the unspecific voice he adopted is how I've always just automatically imagined I or a lot of people would be able to play the Joker, partially because it's got such a broad and loose feel to it. Maybe no one else has ever imagined him that way before and that's why it seems more artificial to me, but.... really?
While Daniel Day Lewis may be a good choice to replace Ledger (if they do it at all), realistically I'm not sure DDL would go for a big budget comic book movie. Do you know how picky the guy is?
That's why this has a shot, though.
The Dark Knight is the one that finally, no-more-doubts pushed the boundaries of comic-book-movie out of the still-primarily-a-summer-blockbuster genre forever. It's a new crime and morality masterpiece and that's genuinely more about characters and plot than explosions. If ever we'd have a shot of getting Daniel Day-Lewis involved in one of our films, it's this one.
When, The Joker had that wig on in the hospital, I swear he looked like Willem Dafoe
not that I'm saying I want him to be the joker, I'm just saying it was a little striking
When they were talking about actors for the sequel three years ago right after Begins came out, Dafoe was my #1 choice for the Joker, followed by Hugh Laurie and the can't-see-anyone-complaining Johnny Depp. Looking back I'm happy Dafoe didn't get cast, but he certainly would've fit.
I really don't want them to replace Ledger, and I doubt that they will, out of respect....
Again though, I don't think Ledger would WANT this character he so clearly cared a lot about to just disappear without fulfilling the rest of the stuff they'd planned for him just because he couldn't play him anymore.
And he has to break Batman's back in the movie. KNIGHTFALL would be the perfect title.
I don't know the feesability of Bane actually breaking the back of Batman. He'd deffinetly beat the **** out of him and nearly cripple him, but to come back from a broken spine would be completely unrealistic for the film.
I was just gonna say. He can't break his back, because in this realistic story, there's just no believable way he could fully come back from that. A few broken bones and maybe a slipped disc or something that has to be painfully re-set but isn't the same as a broked back will have to do. Otherwise, there's no way they could keep the series as realistic they've worked so hard to achieve.
I think each cast of villains should be totally different from the previous cast. Just as Scarecrow and Ras'Al'Ghul was totally different from Joker and Two Face.
I am up for the Bane idea.
I agree.
I'd rather have penguin than Riddler. I think Penguin could be really cool in Nolan's universe. A short, fat crime mobster that gets called the Penguin behind his back. He uses the Iceberg Lounge as a front for the mob, and deals weapons, drugs, and information. Maybe Batman can go to him to get some info or something of the like. I like to think of him as a thug with a Napoleon complex (someone on these boards has already talked about this idea of the Penguin before) that wants to prove that he can be a big crime boss. His constant smoking can even cause him some lung problems resulting in his trade mark cough. It would work.
Sure.
Enh....I still don't think Penguin should be in these movies. I thought Danny DeVito's Penguin was ridiculous. I'd rather just have Philip Seymour Hoffman as a regular mob guy with no deformities who is just called "the Penguin" like Carmine Falcone is called "the Roman." Actually, I think the original Penguin was just an unattractive criminal with no deformities.
Actually, pretty much EVERY Penguin other than the one from
Batman Returns has been that.
I don't see why one of the mob bosses in the next one shouldn't be Oswald Cobblepot. Or Roman Sionis for that matter.
Or maybe the Penguin is just an aristocrat who knows Bruce Wayne.
Hmm... Richard Earle?
