Punisher MAX (Ennis #1-60) Discussion *Spoilers*

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Anybody have any idea when the next hardcover is coming out?

It feels like it's been forever.

We've only got the first 24 MAX issues in hardcover, and they're already over fifty in the floppies.

The 3rd one has been out for quite awhile.
 
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I'm so glad they changed the artist.



Oh man. The showdown between these two are going to go down in history.
 
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This was a ****ing brilliant issue.

It's great to see Parlov drawing Barracuda again. It'll be a shame when Punisher kills him since... what will Parlov do now?! :p

But it's a brilliant issue, and ******* - I don't know how this is going to get to six issues. There's a lot of twists coming. Where the hell is Punisher heading? Miami?
 
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This was a ****ing brilliant issue.

It's great to see Parlov drawing Barracuda again. It'll be a shame when Punisher kills him since... what will Parlov do now?! :p

But it's a brilliant issue, and ******* - I don't know how this is going to get to six issues. There's a lot of twists coming. Where the hell is Punisher heading? Miami?

He's heading 'East' and he knows barracuda will be there waiting for him....

....maybe where they were in the barracuda arc, where they had the fight where 'cuda lost his fingers.
 
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The last issue was so excellent.

I really am dreading the fact that Barracuda is totally going to die by the time this is over.
 
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I was thinking that I hope maybe for a final arc or something that Ennis uses Jigsaw before he leaves.


Jigsaw is suppose to be the arch-nemesis of the Punisher. And Ennis has created some of the most legendary villains. The Russian, Barracuda, Nicky, Rawlins, The General. All great.


I think he should sort of re-create him while still keeping him sort tie-in to his past like Microchip was.


I think it would be cool.
 
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I think this is going to be the best arc yet.
 
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The last issue was so excellent.

I really am dreading the fact that Barracuda is totally going to die by the time this is over.

Yep. No Ennis Punisher villain to date has survived a second round with the Punisher. A few have survived one - Rawlins, Cavella, The Russian, The General, Barracuda - but none yet, have survived two.

I was thinking that I hope maybe for a final arc or something that Ennis uses Jigsaw before he leaves.


Jigsaw is suppose to be the arch-nemesis of the Punisher. And Ennis has created some of the most legendary villains. The Russian, Barracuda, Nicky, Rawlins, The General. All great.


I think he should sort of re-create him while still keeping him sort tie-in to his past like Microchip was.


I think it would be cool.

What what what? "Final" arc? There is no "final" arc! This will last forever! FOREVER!
 
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#51 was incredible.

Barracuda is so hardcore that he doped the baby's milk and began to cut the baby's face....all in front of Frank. I mean wow.

And of course Frank proceeds to break the cuffs and beat the living **** outta 'Cuda.



Still....I love the fact that Frank isn't fighting for himself anymore or just killing the bad guy because a bad guy needed killing. Frank is now fighting for his daughter. It's personal. And that means we're gonna see a whole different side to Frank.

Next issue is gonna be ugly.
 
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But... It's always personal!

It starts off, "Hey, this mofo needs killing" and then it becomes personal. That's how crime fiction works. LAW AND ORDER does it all the time.

What's great is how it isn't a cliche or just repeated.

The first arc became personal when Microchip showed up and offered him a job.

The second arc gets personal because Frank is in the bar that gets boomed and because Yorkie, his friend, asks for help (it's personal for Yorkie).

The third arc is personal because Nicky Cavella digs up his family's grave and pisses on the skeletons.

The fourth arc... someone else want to keep on going?

I ****ing love this comic.

It gets better each ****ing arc, even though I can't believe it will.

Ennis - damn, he's ****ing amazing.
 
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But... It's always personal!

This is a different kind of personal. It goes beyond memories and who just crossed Frank's path today. This is his blood we're talking about here.


If someone was to piss on my grandfather's grave, then it's personal. You're gonna catch a serious beating. A serious beating. But hurt one of my immediate family members and I'll most likely burn you alive in an open grave.


Its all relative.
 
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Yeah, but what I mean is it's always personal. It's just Ennis knows how to push Punisher's buttons to make sure he doesn't really repeat himself.

I still the most 'personal' thing is the digging up of the skeletons and pissing on them. I think that's worse than the baby thing. That's not to say the baby thing isn't ****ing harsh, I just think... it's like comparing track atheletes.

Even the slowest guy there ran it in under 10 seconds and was only half a second behind the winner. It don't really matter none.

But I mean - just look at how Ennis gets Punisher to go off the chains. SLAVERS - Frank went ape**** and, as they pointed out in WIDOWMAKER, because he can't pass up a woman in trouble.

The more I think about this comic, the more I can't help but think of it as some of the best comics I've ever read.
 
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It is. If it were actually creator-owned...it would rival Ennis' "Preacher" in terms of quality.
 
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I've still only read the first arc of Preacher. I need to finish that.


That means i have to send money to Baxter. I'm so poor.
 
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I've still only read the first arc of Preacher. I need to finish that.


That means i have to send money to Baxter. I'm so poor.
I only have the first two volumes of Preacher. :(

I too need to finish it.
 
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Most comic arcs don't have anywhere near this amount of story by part 2. Great stuff so far.

What a cool idea to give Punisher a baby. There is no way this can end well for him.

I'm not digging the art but it's not too bad. The story makes up for any of the art's lacking.
 

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