Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

How long was Jessica with kill grave. After reviewing again it looks like it must have been a year. when jessica meets killgrave its fall or winter. Jackets and no leaves on trees. Next time we see her its sometime later and she is warm enough for her to wear a sleeveless dress outside. There are now leaves on the tree as well indicating its either spring or summer (1000 cuts). The next time we see her its Jan 20 2014 the night she leaves killgrave.

Aug 2013 Jessica was working in the office "18 months ago" The Sandwich Saved Me" (0:00:00 - 0:06:07) - Thats a lock.
Working as a sandwich - No leaves trees (fall or winter 2013?)
Jessica saves neighbor - No leaves on tree (fall or winter 2013?)
Jessica on the balcony - Leaves on trees (spring or summer ????)
Jan 20 2014. Killgrave hit by bus - No leaves on trees - date is locked.



This implies that they were together longer than seems possible. Am i missing something?

That right there implies she and Kilgrave were only together a few months at most, maybe only a month or few weeks even, not a year. Just because there were leaves on the trees in that scene is likely just due to filming that scene later in the filming schedule. As you laid out there's no way they were together for a year based on the explicit timeline laid out.




Also, since I'm leaving the site I'm going to be transferring the various timelines to thetimelinesite.com, but I'll leave links for them in the respective threads' original posts.
 
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Also, since I'm leaving the site I'm going to be transferring the various timelines to thetimelinesite.com, but I'll leave links for them in the respective threads' original posts.
While I love The Timeline Site (I use the Arrowverse timeline all the time), the one thing it's missing is a community aspect. I often wonder why things get placed where they are. Just wondering if you're planning on implementing something like that. Despite you obviously doing most of the work, I'd like to believe the reason that this is the best MCU timeline on the Internet is that it's peer reviewed. Just my two cents, I still admire your work :) .
 
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Yeah, I'm going to be sad to loose that. When I found the timeline originally I was disconnected, but joining in and seeing the thought behind it all become some of why it was fun. Either way, thank you for everything Irish.
 
Yeah, I'm going to be sad to loose that. When I found the timeline originally I was disconnected, but joining in and seeing the thought behind it all become some of why it was fun. Either way, thank you for everything Irish.

100% agree. I also think quality of the timeline will suffer without the community cross checking.
 
I'm sorry to see you go, DIB!

Not sure if you'll see this, but I think I speak for everyone here when I say that not just your timeline but your diligence and leadership keep us in awe of you.

And I do think I speak for myself when I say that working through the timeline has gotten me through some rough times in my life. I went through it when I was terribly bored while unemployed. And when I was depressed after my friend tragically passed away from an accident. And through some awful, though thankfully short-lived, illnesses. It kept my attention for weeks, months, and now years. It's helped me cope, and coping is nothing to scoff at when things are bad.

If you've got reasons to take a break, I respect that. But know we'll miss you.

And we're thankful for all you've done here!
 
While I love The Timeline Site (I use the Arrowverse timeline all the time), the one thing it's missing is a community aspect. I often wonder why things get placed where they are. Just wondering if you're planning on implementing something like that. Despite you obviously doing most of the work, I'd like to believe the reason that this is the best MCU timeline on the Internet is that it's peer reviewed. Just my two cents, I still admire your work :) .

E is working on that. He's been busy but we'll hopefully get the community aspect up and running soon.

In the meantime just post questions, corrections, etc here, and I'll pop in from time to time to answer them or make changes as necessary. I still fully intend to keep it a community effort.

I just don't want to split traffic between the two sites when I'm trying to increase the internet traffic to thetimelinesite.com, but until we get the community aspect figured out on tTS we'll leave the posting here in the meantime.

Yeah, I'm going to be sad to loose that. When I found the timeline originally I was disconnected, but joining in and seeing the thought behind it all become some of why it was fun. Either way, thank you for everything Irish.

No worries, like I said the community aspect will live on, and right here in this thread in the meantime for questions/corrections.

100% agree. I also think quality of the timeline will suffer without the community cross checking.

Relax, the timeline will still be a community effort.

I'm sorry to see you go, DIB!

Not sure if you'll see this, but I think I speak for everyone here when I say that not just your timeline but your diligence and leadership keep us in awe of you.

And I do think I speak for myself when I say that working through the timeline has gotten me through some rough times in my life. I went through it when I was terribly bored while unemployed. And when I was depressed after my friend tragically passed away from an accident. And through some awful, though thankfully short-lived, illnesses. It kept my attention for weeks, months, and now years. It's helped me cope, and coping is nothing to scoff at when things are bad.

If you've got reasons to take a break, I respect that. But know we'll miss you.

And we're thankful for all you've done here!

Thanks, man. Don't worry, the community aspect and effort will still keep rolling here in meantime, and eventually we'll transfer it over the thetimelinesite when the community posting thing is implemented. E has been busy with real life which has to take precedence, but the community aspect has always and will continue to be a key factor of the MCU timeline, and will continue here until the posting function is added to the other site.

That said, I was recently diagnosed with thyroid cancer and its caused me to re-examine aspects of my life. I still love comics and comic book films/TV shows, but there's been a large amount of negativity on the boards lately regarding some of those projects. I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion, but many criticisms lack anything constructive to them and amount to essentially just pointless negativity. I realize that goes with the territory regarding any comic fanboy material, but I'm just exhausted by it (and the chemo, and hypothyroidism that's resulted from the cancer).

I'm an extremely passionate person and am unable to keep quiet about things. I'm one of those annoying folks who always make their opinion heard, ;) . Unfortunately that results in arguing and debates that often devolve into mere negativity, and I don't need or want that in my life at this point. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, I just wish people would be more constructive with them. So, its best I just step away from the site. This is the only comic forum I ever frequented, and I'll be sorry not to regularly converse with a lot of you, but its just whats best for me right now.

I will stop in from time to time to answer questions/make corrections, so don't worry, the community aspect of the timeline will be retained.

Really appreciate the kind words, though. Means a lot that its been helpful to people through rough patches in their lives. Thats very cool. I'll keep at it, and will always include the community here in the MCU timeline's continued development.

Don't forget, I stuck with the damn Ultimate Marvel timeline for 12 years or so, I'll be with the MCU timeline far longer. It isn't going to disappear, only change locations.
 
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Just a little fun overly-ideal thing I want to mention: I think if they ever do retcon the Deadpool movie into the MCU (I feel like that Helicarrier and those MCU references were in their a deeper, secret purpose inside FOX's doors), it would have to be in April 2019.

* April being the month mentioned near the beginning of the movie.
* 2019? - Vanessa mentions the Chinese New Year being "The Year of the Dog" (starting Feb. 2018 ) a year prior to the "current" events in the movie. Assuming Wade met her a little later in the two-year gap.

The felt so distant from the X-Men film universe (post-DOFP) that it might as well occured after some merging/"unifying" or major timeline alternation to turn said X-verse into the Marvel Cinematic Universe itself.
 
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Just a little fun overly-ideal thing I want to mention: I think if they ever do retcon the Deadpool movie into the MCU (I feel like that Helicarrier and those MCU references were in their a deeper, secret purpose inside FOX's doors), it would have to be in April 2019.

* April being the month mentioned near the beginning of the movie.
* 2019? - Vanessa mentions the Chinese New Year being "The Year of the Dog" (starting Feb. 2018 ) a year prior to the "current" events in the movie. Assuming Wade met her a little later in the two-year gap.

The felt so distant from the X-Men film universe (post-DOFP) that it might as well occured after some merging/"unifying" or major timeline alternation to turn said X-verse into the Marvel Cinematic Universe itself.

Eh, I doubt they're going to fold Deadpool or the X-Men films into the MCU.

That said, Deadpool is firmly entrenched in Fox's X-Men film universe, despite the many continuity screw-ups. However, Days of Future Past's events wiped the slate clean, allowing for the pre-DoFP timeline and the post-DoFP timeline. In the pre-DoFP timeline, Deadpool/Wade were the version from X-Men Origins - Wolverine, and the post-DoFP Deadpool/Wade is the version from the Deadpool film. Same with Collossus, who in the pre-DoFP timeline didn't have the Russian accent, but does in the post-DoFP timeline. Its messy, but the Fox X-Men timeline always has been
 
I feel like Old Man Logan is going to be the last of the X-Men and it'll reboot with the shows in the MCU
 
Updating for the most recent Agent Carter episodes.


At this point, anything could happen with the X-Men films. Who knows?

With the X-Men films, sure, but the MCU is pretty tightly controlled by Marvel Studios and Feige. I honestly doubt they'll ever fold the Fox X-Men stuff into the MCU, at least not anytime soon.

Maybe when they reboot the X-Men film series, but even then I wouldn't necessarily expect it. There is still a lot of bad blood between the two companies/studios.

I feel like Old Man Logan is going to be the last of the X-Men and it'll reboot with the shows in the MCU

Deadpool 2, X-Force, Deadpool 3... ;)

Anything is possible but there are a few reasons that make it unlikely they'll combine the MCU even with a rebooted X-Men film timeline.

First is, as I said, the bad blood between the studios. The second is the fact Fox isn't desperate like Sony was after ASM2's flop.

Fox is on pretty firm ground with their X-Men franchise after the success of the recent X-Men films, Deadpool, etc. There is no real need for them to extend an olive branch to Marvel Studios, or vice versa.

I just don't see any need or motivation for either studio to try and force a crossover between the two franchises, even should Fox reboot their X-Men film universe (which is likely soon given Jackman retiring as Wolverine).

Plus, Marvel has been pushing the Inhumans as a replacement for the mutants... so neither studio has any real need to crossover/combine the properties.

It'll probably happen at some point, but not anytime soon.
 
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Rumor is Inhumans is cancelled. Also the bad blood was Fox and Perlmutter/Fiege and Rothman, both of whom are out of the picture. I just find it off that they needed Marvel's permission to do an X-Men show, the whole F4 situation, and then them announcing an X-Men show via Marvel.com. Deadpool can be easily squeezed into the MCU, it has references and a hellicarrier.
 
Updated for both AC episodes aired last week. I'll check it next week to update for the next two episodes of AC.



Rumor is Inhumans is cancelled.

That rumor was debunked as soon as it was made... like 4 months back. :)

I expect we'll hear more about Inhumans (director/writers) at this year's SDCC. It's still over 3 years away so maybe not.

Also the bad blood was Fox and Perlmutter/Fiege and Rothman, both of whom are out of the picture.

While they did restructure and push Perlmutter to the side, hes still a major shareholder and controlling interest at Marvel... all branches of the company. He still holds a lot of sway, luckily Disney as the parent/umbrella corp holds more.

I just find it off that they needed Marvel's permission to do an X-Men show,

Why? Marvel still retains/owns complete rights to X-Men TV rights. Completely separate from film rights. Fox never purchased those when they bought films rights so now must go back to asking/paying Marvel to do so.

the whole F4 situation, and then them announcing an X-Men show via Marvel.com.

See above. The TV show rights for X-Men are still wholly controlled/owned by Marvel, so any allowance Marvel makes for said X-Men TV show would require Marvel's complete approval. So, it makes sense that when they gave Fox the OK for the show,, they'd require Fox to allow them (Marvel) to make official announcement, which they did on their site to drive up traffic for a few hours until other media sources picked up on it and spread the word. That's just how it works in our minute to minute internet culture.

Deadpool can be easily squeezed into the MCU, it has references and a hellicarrier.

Except for the fact Collossus is a supporting character. Plus the Helicarrier had to be altered enough so as not to look too close to the MCU versions (it's an obvious reference to the MCU, just as the SLJ as Nick Fury/eyepatch jokes are, but that's all they are: examples of Deadpool's fourth-wall-breaking humor, it doesn't mean anything solid, it's just a joke). And, as it's a movie full of references/Easter eggs/jokes about the various superhero films, I wouldn't take Deadpool's few references to the MCU as indicators it occurs in that universe.

It's pretty clear it occurs in the X-Men film universe, which we know doesn't occur in the MCU. Let's not confuse the issue to support your personal hopes, mmmmmmmkay? ;)
 
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That rumor was debunked as soon as it was made... like 4 months back. :)

I expect we'll hear more about Inhumans (director/writers) at this year's SDCC. It's still over 3 years away so maybe not.

It was? I don't remember that.

While they did restructure and push Perlmutter to the side, hes still a major shareholder and controlling interest at Marvel... all branches of the company. He still holds a lot of sway, luckily Disney as the parent/umbrella corp holds more.

He has sway on everything but the films which is where the money that Fox would want would be. Deadpool would be very easy to integrate due to him talking to the viewer directly. They should do it.


Why? Marvel still retains/owns complete rights to X-Men TV rights. Completely separate from film rights. Fox never purchased those when they bought films rights so now must go back to asking/paying Marvel to do so.

See above. The TV show rights for X-Men are still wholly controlled/owned by Marvel, so any allowance Marvel makes for said X-Men TV show would require Marvel's complete approval. So, it makes sense that when they gave Fox the OK for the show,, they'd require Fox to allow them (Marvel) to make official announcement, which they did on their site to drive up traffic for a few hours until other media sources picked up on it and spread the word. That's just how it works in our minute to minute internet culture.

This wasn't supposed to be broken up. I get why Marvel has to give permission, I found the fact that F4 happened and then suddenly Fox got the rights off. I'm implying that they sold the F4 rights for TV and a spot in the MCU.

Except for the fact Collossus is a supporting character. Plus the Helicarrier had to be altered enough so as not to look too close to the MCU versions (it's an obvious reference to the MCU, just as the SLJ as Nick Fury/eyepatch jokes are, but that's all they are: examples of Deadpool's fourth-wall-breaking humor, it doesn't mean anything solid, it's just a joke). And, as it's a movie full of references/Easter eggs/jokes about the various superhero films, I wouldn't take Deadpool's few references to the MCU as indicators it occurs in that universe.

Well, considering how I feel about the X-Men universe and Colossus being nothing like he was before this is in a pocket universe for me ;)

It's pretty clear it occurs in the X-Men film universe, which we know doesn't occur in the MCU. Let's not confuse the issue to support your personal hopes, mmmmmmmkay? ;)

Why are they not your personal hopes as well?
 
It's simple.

Earth-10005 - Days of Future Past cinematic reality
Earth-TRN414 - Age of Apocalypse cinematic reality

Ultimately, the only way to stop Apocalypse is to travel back in time (again) and kill him in his prime. Thus, rewriting mutant history for the past few thousand years and creating...

Earth-199999 - Mutants/"Inhumans"/gifted-humans are relatively unknown until the global spread of the gene in September 2016; the X-Men and Xavier's school aren't founded until 2017 or 2018. First Class, DoFP and a vast majority of the events in Apocalypse never happened. Deadpool and Gambit are in-continuity in the aftermath of the drastic timeline changes in Apocalypse, though set a few years in the future. Legion is set in this timeline during the time when super-powered beings aren't public knowledge, Hellfire Club is completely different from First Class, since the events from the movie never happened; as per the TV deal between Marvel and FOX, they chose those two plots in particular instead of a regular "X-Men" show.

It all seems to line up. Not trying to start an argument here.
 
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Good theory. I was going with Apocalypse kills almost everyone, but they beat him. Wolverine 3 is Old Man Logan and it concludes the universe, but I know Singer want to do HIS version of the Phoenix Saga so it's not gonna happen.
 
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Good theory. I was going with Apocalypse kills almost everyone, but they beat him. Wolverine 3 is Old Man Logan and it concludes the universe, but I know Singer want to do HIS version of the Phoenix Saga so it's not gonna happen.

What's not going to happen? :?
 
For as much as I love the MCU, I would rather give in editing these shows/movies into order than include that dance number.
 

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