Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

DIrishB said:
The League Cup Finals that Fitz and Radcliffe were watching occurred on February 26, 2017 in real world. Whether that date holds true for MCU is unlikely, but still a good place to start from.
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27th November 2016 actually, think you looked up the English League Cup Final rather than Scottish League Cup Final. Although the actual match they are watching happened 16th March 2014 so it could very well just be a recording considering Fitz says the teams explicitly rather than simply "this year's League Cup Final" (very similar to when the Mandarin is watching football in Iron Man 3)
 
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Zpdedoda said:
27th November 2016 actually, think you looked up the English League Cup Final rather than Scottish League Cup Final. Although the actual match they are watching happened 16th March 2014 so it could very well just be a recording considering Fitz says the teams explicitly rather than simply "this year's League Cup Final" (very similar to when the Mandarin is watching football in Iron Man 3)
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Ah, good catch, thanks.
 
I'm rewatching DD S1. Why are your timestamps a little behind the times in Netflix? Do you not count the title sequence? This was in E2 that I really noticed it. I know in AoS you don't count the "Previously, on Marvel's Agents of SHIELD..." stuff, but Netflix doesn't do that. (Presumably because they know we watch them all back-to-back.)
 
dsethlewis said:
I'm rewatching DD S1. Why are your timestamps a little behind the times in Netflix? Do you not count the title sequence? This was in E2 that I really noticed it. I know in AoS you don't count the "Previously, on Marvel's Agents of SHIELD..." stuff, but Netflix doesn't do that. (Presumably because they know we watch them all back-to-back.)
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Not sure. Far as I know they're accurate. Can you list examples of what's off?
 
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Still updating for AoS Season 4, but now that I'm halfway through the season I'm confident in all the AoS Season 1-4 placements.

Check it out, let me know if you notice anything out of place or that you disagree with, but I've posted my notes on AoS over last several pages as I've gone through the seasons, so I'm pretty confident in my placements and reasoning.
 
Do we think the Doctor Strange mid-credits scene is ripped from Thor: Ragnarok like Ant-Man did with Civil War?
 
I'd like to think that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x03 would take place before Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 for ONE big reason - The blue blob thing destroying stuff on Earth that was shown in one of the trailers.
Wouldn't S.H.I.E.L.D. definitely react to that? (It would be a huge big suspension of disbelief for them not to mention it in 2x03, even though the episode was made long before the writers any knowledge of GotG Vol 2's events.) I think placing that AoS episode a little earlier, while leaving nearly a year long gap between GotG Vol 2 and AoS 2x04, realistically, gives S.H.I.E.L.D. and the public more time to react and settle with it.
 
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Dallas Kinard said:
Do we think the Doctor Strange mid-credits scene is ripped from Thor: Ragnarok like Ant-Man did with Civil War?
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Most likely

selfishmisery said:
I'd like to think that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x03 would take place before Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 for ONE big reason - The blue blob thing destroying stuff on Earth that was shown in one of the trailers.
Wouldn't S.H.I.E.L.D. definitely react to that? (It would be a huge big suspension of disbelief for them not to mention it in 2x03, even though the episode was made long before the writers any knowledge of GotG Vol 2's events.) I think placing that AoS episode a little earlier, while leaving nearly a year long gap between GotG Vol 2 and AoS 2x04, realistically, gives S.H.I.E.L.D. and the public more time to react and settle with it.
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The blue blob takes place in small town and is very quickly resolved
 
Saw Guardians Vol. 2 today. Very mild spoilers:
Pretty straightforward, there's a short intro set in 1980, and then a title card saying "34 years later". Everything from that point on happens inside a pretty small amount of time, so no need to separate anything. About the mid- and post-credit scenes, three of them directly follow the movie's events, the other two don't have a clear time placing, but suggest that some time has passed, I'd say a few days to a few weeks, but that's pretty much just a guess.
 
Dallas Kinard said:
Do we think the Doctor Strange mid-credits scene is ripped from Thor: Ragnarok like Ant-Man did with Civil War?
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Yes, it's almost guaranteed it is, considering Waikiti directed that scene (in other words it was lifted from footage shot for Ragnarok and will most likely be seen in that film, like was done with Ant-Man's post credit scene being footage from Civil War).

selfishmisery said:
I'd like to think that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 2x03 would take place before Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 for ONE big reason - The blue blob thing destroying stuff on Earth that was shown in one of the trailers.
Wouldn't S.H.I.E.L.D. definitely react to that? (It would be a huge big suspension of disbelief for them not to mention it in 2x03, even though the episode was made long before the writers any knowledge of GotG Vol 2's events.) I think placing that AoS episode a little earlier, while leaving nearly a year long gap between GotG Vol 2 and AoS 2x04, realistically, gives S.H.I.E.L.D. and the public more time to react and settle with it.
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That's a fair point, but not having seen the film yet I have no idea.

vintsukka said:
Saw Guardians Vol. 2 today. Very mild spoilers:
Pretty straightforward, there's a short intro set in 1980, and then a title card saying "34 years later". Everything from that point on happens inside a pretty small amount of time, so no need to separate anything. About the mid- and post-credit scenes, three of them directly follow the movie's events, the other two don't have a clear time placing, but suggest that some time has passed, I'd say a few days to a few weeks, but that's pretty much just a guess.
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Very cool. Unfortunately GotG Vol 2 created a bit of a continuity screw up with the post credit scene involving
Stan Lee reporting to the Watchers, as he mentions he enjoyed his job as a FedEx driver--seen in CA-Civil War.

With GotG Vol. 2 firmly set in 2014, and Civil War firmly set in 2016, this is a screw up of them overlooking fact GotG 2 is set soon after first film. Oh well.

Guess we can explain it as that character liking the job so much he returned to Earth and became a FedEx driver again after GotG Vol 2 and before events of Civil War.
 
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DIrishB said:
Very cool. Unfortunately GotG Vol 2 created a bit of a continuity screw up with the post credit scene involving
Stan Lee reporting to the Watchers, as he mentions he enjoyed his job as a FedEx driver--seen in CA-Civil War.

With GotG Vol. 2 firmly set in 2014, and Civil War firmly set in 2016, this is a screw up of them overlooking fact GotG 2 is set soon after first film. Oh well.

Guess we can explain it as that character liking the job so much he returned to Earth and became a FedEx driver again after GotG Vol 2 and before events of Civil War.
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Who says that scene takes place any time near then?
 
wyokid said:
Who says that scene takes place any time near then?
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The fact it (according to those who've seen it) continues the scene shown earlier in the film, when
the Guardians fly by the floating rock Lee and the Watchers are on in space (Lee in a space suit). He supposedly mentions in post credit scene, when the Watchers leave the rock and him on it, that they were Lee's ride home. That indicates it occurs either right after the jump ship scene he's first seen in, or they sat on that rock for months or years before post credit scene. I just find that unlikely. The Watchers leave presumably due to disinterest, and it wouldn't take them very long to lose interest if there ever was any to begin with, not having seen the film I can't say.
Once it's released next week over here in US I'll remedy that. :)

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/04/26/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-post-credits-scenes-adam-/#4

Early in Vol. 2, Stan Lee is seen on a rock floating through the cosmos wearing an astronaut suit talking to the Watchers. In the scene which was quickly cut into the film as a space ship used jump windows to quickly travel from planet to planet passed them by, Lee was describing his cameo in Captain America: Civil War as a FedEx man.

Lee's post-credits scene left him in space as the three Watchers he was speaking to elected to leave him behind. "You guys are my ride home," Lee called out. Perhaps the Avengers will bump into him during their feud with Thanos. Or, maybe, Stan Lee will be floating on a rock in the cosmos of the Marvel Cinematic Universe forever.
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It seems from that description it picks up soon after initial scene.

Like I said, at worst we can presume he somehow
got off that rock/asteroid and returned to Earth
after the post credit scene, and since he mentioned how much he enjoyed it in that GotG Vol 2 scene (again, reportedly anyway), he maybe took up the job again when he got back, thus setting up his appearance in Civil War.

It's obvious they meant otherwise, but screwed up timeline wise since GotG 2 occurs soon after first film (and apparently
even dates itself as occurring 34 years after 1980
, so 2014), whereas Civil War occurs pretty definitively in 2016. There's no real way to reconcile that, especially in combination with Lee's other cameo's in the MCU films between 2014 and 2016, presumably playing the same guy (who may or may not be an agent of the Watchers).
 
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Perhaps there is simply a time-jump to 2016, right after the events of Civil War?

Also, are we sure this is accurate:

March
Doctor Strange Chapter 16: "Giving Back" (1:52:39 - 1:54:20)

I swear Mordo says its been months since the Tokyo incident. You only have it 1 month later.
 
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Dallas Kinard said:
Perhaps there is simply a time-jump to 2016, right after the events of Civil War?
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Yeah, that's what wyo suggested but the film (least according to reports) portrays it as occurring right after the scene earlier in the film.

Also, are we sure this is accurate:

March
Doctor Strange Chapter 16: "Giving Back" (1:52:39 - 1:54:20)

I swear Mordo says its been months since the Tokyo incident. You only have it 1 month later.
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I'll have to go back and check, but if worse comes to worse moving that up a bit later isn't going to cause any issues.
 
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Hello, bit of a long-time lurker/fan of this thread, jumping in if you don't mind. :D

DIrishB said:
2x01 and 2x02 must occur in April, 2014, due to the One Year Earlier tag (and they must occur a year before 2x20 and the Age of Ultron film which occur in April, 2015). 2x03 occurs an indeterminate amount of time after 2x02. We can presume Simmons was undercover at Hydra for months at that point. 2x04 picks up an indeterminate amount of time after 2x03. Since 2x04-2x22 feature no real break points to insert stretches of time, 2x04 - 2x05 have to be placed in March, 2015, covering the month, with 2x12-2x19, AoU, 2x20-2x22 occurring in April, 2015.

Take a gander, let me know if you notice any problems with that layout.
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I was going through Season 2 recently as well, and doesn't it have to be set in 2014 until at least after 2x08? In 2x06, Coulson had threatened Ward's brother by saying that he'd release the info abour Ward's Hydra association, which Coulson said would be especially damaging "in an election year," suggesting they were in October or the first three days of November 2014 at the latest. Then 2x08 has a caption at the end dating a scene in 1989 to "25 years ago."

But I'm not sure how that's supposed to work if the episodes are all consecutive starting from 2x04.

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This also means only about a month (or less) passed between 4x01 and 4x07, and confirms Senator Nadeer's brother was exposed to the terrigen very soon after its release into ocean in 3x22. This also confirms that, if 3x22 occurs in April, and its flashforward/epilogue scene in October, that would put Season 4 as picking up in April, 2017.
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It's been a long time since I watched 3x22 but I don't remember any more terrigen getting spilled in the ocean. Wasn't that only in 2x22?

DIrishB said:
Yeah, that's what wyo suggested but the film (least according to reports) portrays it as occurring right after the scene earlier in the film.
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Maybe he just worked at FedEx for a few years? My guess, if I were to work some continuity into it, would be to say that he really did get fired from the Smithsonian (his cameo in The Winter Soldier) like he was worried he would, and then found a job with FedEx (and by the time of Ant-Man, a second job as a bartender).
 
Stan mentions being a FedEx delivery man the first time we see him in the film, not during the post credits scene, so there really is no getting around it. Except that they pass him on their way to were Ego lives, which he describes as "beyond". They have to take 700 jump gates to get there, which starts stretching out their faces. Maybe it distorts space time? Also, Stan is listed as "agent of the Watchers" in the credits.
 
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MoltenDiamond said:
Maybe he just worked at FedEx for a few years? My guess, if I were to work some continuity into it, would be to say that he really did get fired from the Smithsonian (his cameo in The Winter Soldier) like he was worried he would, and then found a job with FedEx (and by the time of Ant-Man, a second job as a bartender).
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That's probably it. Having seen the film, I think people are overthinking this point in terms of it being a continuity error. He doesn't actually mention the events of Civil War, as mentioned, and this was probably a deliberate choice so as not to create a continuity error while at the same time reminding the audience of his role in Civil War. Heck, Stan Lee is also Larry King in this universe, and it's not like Larry King's presumed continued career post Iron Man II was seen as a contradiction with his day jobs at FedEx, etc. :D

Even if the events of Civil War have already occured from Stan Lee's perspective, don't the Watchers have some kind of control over space and time? It's possible that Rocket just managed to hit a pocket of space/time created by the Watchers that exists outside of the MCU's normal time and space.

Also noteworthy for timeline purposes:
Given that Groot is an adolescent in one of the post-credit scenes, we can probably assume that this particular scene takes place a year or more after the movie, depending on the life cycle of a Groot, of course.

TC
 
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