Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

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I still hold Krypton's biggest loose ends & cliffhanger as the gold standard.
Anything below that (i.e. Danny Rand and Ward looking for Orson Randall) is more-or-less "The adventure continues..."

But I expect Marvel to wrap up stuff like that, not so much if it was DC...
 
last 2 episodes of what if Season 2 were great, wish we got more of why Supreme Strange's Universe needed to come back to save others but maybe we'll get that in season 3. Also speaking of season 3 the sneak peek of the red guardian and bucky episode that was cut from season 2 and will be in season 3 I've put for the same reasons as the Gamora and tony episode that was cut from season 1.

So now i have a mostly complete viewing order but I need some input as to what i should do for the remaining Season 2 episodes.
(Which are S02E01-E03, E06 and E07, the others are easier to lock in a specific order (ep 5 connects directly to the end of season 1, there is a gap of a few weeks between eps 5 and 8, ep 4 is either a s01 episode or takes place between s01 and s02 as a flashback episode although the only thing connecting it to season 2 is the pre-title opening and the title sequence, the rest of the episode is presented as a s01 episode in terms of the watchers context during the rest of the episode (Present tenses used instead of past tenses). Eps 8 leads directly into ep 9)

WI S01E01 (1943-1944/1945)
WI S01E02 (2008)
WI S01E03 (2010 or 2011)

WI S02E04 (May 2012) ?

WI S01E04 (Early 2018)
WI S01E05 (May 2018)
WI S01E06 (2008 or 2009 or 2010)
WI S01E07 (2010 or 2011)
WI S01E08 (Mid-Late 2015)
WI S01E09 (Mid-Late 2015)

WI S02E04 (May 2012) ?

WI S02E05 (Between January - May 2014)

WI S02E01 (2019)?

WI S02E02 (1988)

WI S03E0? (Estimated around 1995)?

WI S02E03 (Christmas Eve 2014)

WI S02E01 (2019)?

WI S02E06 (Somewhere between 1493 - 1504)
WI S02E07 (Somewhere between 575 BC - 1521)
WI S02E08 (1602)
WI S02E09 (Outside of Time and Space)
 
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https://discord.com/channels/587769969983356985/1003358312022151240/1189857726868770918 The Ten Rings bombing in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings depicts the same scene from Captain America: The First Avenger. Same building, same bus, same newspaper stand, same bicycles following the bus, same black man in uniform standing in front of the newspaper stand, same soldiers with guns standing in front of sandbags, same black car driving in front of the bus, same couple with a woman wearing white with a red hat walking by the stand.

If we are to consider them the same scene and the transition to the SSR in the next scene is in real time, then the bombing can get placed on an exact date.


what do we think of this? taken from the mcu wiki timeline discussion thread
 
https://discord.com/channels/587769969983356985/1003358312022151240/1189857726868770918 The Ten Rings bombing in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings depicts the same scene from Captain America: The First Avenger. Same building, same bus, same newspaper stand, same bicycles following the bus, same black man in uniform standing in front of the newspaper stand, same soldiers with guns standing in front of sandbags, same black car driving in front of the bus, same couple with a woman wearing white with a red hat walking by the stand.

If we are to consider them the same scene and the transition to the SSR in the next scene is in real time, then the bombing can get placed on an exact date.


what do we think of this? taken from the mcu wiki timeline discussion thread
I don't have discord lol can you share the specific photos here I'd love to see it and the comparisons
 
Lol fair enough, would love to see what's going on if anyone has Discord here

He's referring to an hour and 25 minutes and 30 seconds into the The First Avenger after Bucky falls to his apparent death; the scene transition to the SSR building.

BUT, here is the difference.

Shang Chi:
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Captain America: The First Avenger:
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@Starvel More specifically, right after Steve saves the prisoners of war and they all clap, calling him "Captain America".
yeah, I'm happy with that placement as long as it's before Steve broke out bucky and the howling commandos.

Btw I've locked in what if S02 by looking at the few leaked orders of the episode titles and where they were originally rumoured to air in relation to the other eps and this one is the closest in both release order and story order (E.g. Peggy meeting with strange at the end of 1602 and strange recruiting kahhori before betraying her later off screen, etc.)


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I put the iron-man on Sakaar episode back into its chronological/original position in season 1 because it makes more narrative sense and helps pay off the finale a bit better (Yes I know that the pre-titles sequence and the title sequence itself has references to future episodes but I'm either going to remove them and replace the title sequence with season 1's, ignore it or treat it as a fun little foreshadowing of things to come)

My reasoning for keeping Nebula's episode before the 80s Avengers is because of the Rocket Raccoon Variant we see in the finale slightly before the young peter quill in the sanctum (my head cannon is he was a gun for hire on Xandar and split from Groot to pursue his career as a bounty hunter), that and also the fact that every other leaked order had this episode first so theres that too lol.

I put the episode that was cut from season 2 that is now going to be in season 3 in a rough chronological order (Red Guardian was in prison roughly after 1995 in the main timeline, so I put it in 1995 for now until it releases) after the 80s Avengers in 1988.

I also left the kahhori episode before the Hela episode, even though the Hela episode is technically set in a time period before kahhori's, to allow time for strange to betray kahhori, try to recapture her, fail in doing so and ask Peggy for help. Plus, strange has acquired people from kahhori's timeline and has slightly different variants of Hela and Wen-Wu so he mustn't have had time to visit that exact timeline because he was trying to recapture kahhori. Also, these 2 episodes were always in this order right up to release so theres that too.

I know it seems like overkill, but I'd rather have some evidence to back up my reasoning for you guys to understand then nothing at all and to just pawn it off as fan fic (lol I hope I'm getting my point across clearly to you guys)

Final viewing order:

WI S01E01 (1943-1944/1945)
WI S01E02 (2008)
WI S01E03 (2010 or 2011)
WI S02E04 (May 2012) (Remove or ignore pre-titles sequence)
WI S01E04 (Early 2018)
WI S01E05 (May 2018)
WI S01E06 (2008 or 2009 or 2010)
WI S01E07 (2010 or 2011)
WI S01E08 (Mid-Late 2015)
WI S01E09 (Mid-Late 2015)
WI S02E05 (Between January - May 2014)
WI S02E01 (2019)
WI S02E02 (1988)

WI S03E0X (Estimated around 1995) ?

WI S02E03 (Christmas Eve 2014)
WI S02E06 (Somewhere between 1493 - 1504)
WI S02E07 (Somewhere between 575 BC - 965 BC)
WI S02E08 (1602)
WI S02E09 (Outside of Time and Space)

WI S03 (TBD)
Marvel Zombies (TBD)
 

Nice that they are at least acknowledging All the Marvel Entertainment Produced Shows by using the Netflix Suit and (Hopefully) not treading on it's continuity by being vague and simple with its answers (which is probably the best we are ever gonna get from Marvel Studios tbh)

(Definitely missing the savagery and speed of the fighting from Netflix though but it's a good start)
 
Wow, I didn't think Matt would wear the red suit again after Poindexter tarnished it's image.
Probably a flashback (not sure about if it's before or after season 3 though) I guess we'll see.

Or maybe he thought hell it's been almost a decade since poindexter went on his spree and a lot weirder and more potent stuff has happened since then,screw it back to the OG suit lol
 

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