Makes you wonder just how far in advance they plan out the 'real' release dates or take extra special care to reshoot scenes with the corrected dates in them for the final release date. Makes my brain hurt just thinking about having that job...
I don't think it factors as much in Phases 4 & 5 since none of the "Present Day" movies are happening around their release date due to the time jump. They can have a specific time in mind for something like say The Marvels, and a new release date doesn't really affect it, since either way the movie isn't going to line up with when it's released.
Daredevil: Born Again is more of a Season 1 and I'm sure is done in a way where one doesn't need to watch the Netflix series to understand it. Plus AoS isn't really necessary to explain Age of Ultron. It's said the Avengers reassembled to take down Hydra and have been doing so in the time between The Winter Solider and Age of Ultron. It's not really important information that AoS had Coulson's team be behind it. The movie tells you everything you need to know.
These are true, but you'd expect a timeline book to mention the details as well.
Given the book is only focusing on Marvel Studios, I think it makes sense why the shows aren't included. This isn't like the Star Wars book where Lucasfilm was behind everything. I'm sure Born Again gives the necessary aspects of Matt and Fisk's prior history. Most likely without the specific details. If this was an actual Daredevil: Season 4, it'd be a different story.
That is what I fear and honestly find the most logical as much as I don't like it. But if the book actually wanted to be a helpful source with actual research and much thought put into it they would include everything Marvel Studios and beyond. They like it or not other studios collaborated to the whole expanded MCU. If they don't want to put the dozen of other shows on the timeline it's fine, but at least have the guts to finally put an end to all this and say they are a different universe.
Yeah, I'm not really a fan of the vagueness. It's like they don't want to commit either way. I think a majority of it has to do with them not wanting to take the time and map the Marvel Television shows out. Especially when some should be considered during the Blip and don't act like it. I think it's less convoluted on their end to just include their own productions.
I agree, but if fans like us can dedicate the time and effort, they as the creators should too, not to mention they have the absolute ability to retcon, explain and reason placements. Looking at this way I would rather take that they don't touch anything if they are going to just screw everything up because they half-ass it. But even if they don't map everything out, at least subtle nods of the existence of other products would be welcome as well.
Yeah, it's sad but I think the truth is they'd just rather not address it.
Nothing official. However some reliable leakers have said Jessica Jones was wanted for Born Again but it doesn't look like it happened.
Though I just now realized I suck at math. I thought 2016 was 15 years ago from the "current" MCU date, but nevermind, I'm stupid.
Yeah, I feel the same. Even though every single project that has touched the wider MCU in some way, a leaker always claims 'you'll know for sure after such and such a project' and it never happens. Even now, they said we'll know during Born Again. I think the safest thing is for Feige to never give it a definitive answer. Because if they confirm it, many on reddit will cry like babies. If they deny it, a lot of fans will feel like Marvel doesn't care about their fans. It's a lose lose for them to address it yay or nay. So they just leave it be.
I don't agree with the latter half. Confirming the canonicity of the expanded shows would only benefit the MCU in the long time. The people who would actually be upset over it would be the ones that are hard bent on proving that currently they can not be canon at all and are obsessed over it. These people are very much the vocal minority. They would cease to be after a good while, and finally the debate over the non D+ shows would be over.
I think there's more to it than that. Whether you're a fan or not, the truth is Marvel Studios wasn't behind all the creative choices made with Marvel Television and they simply may not want to adhere to decisions they may not agree with from a creative standpoint. That's not to say that Marvel Studios may not pick and choose certain aspects like we're seeing with Born Again. However, at the same time, I just don't see them flat-out confirming everything done by Marvel Television is 100% canon.
