Lost *spoilers*

ProjectX2 said:
Desmond... I hope he's not a time traveller. That would just be stupid. I'm pretty sure he's just having Deja Vu dreams.
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Stupid how? I wouldn't suggest he can do it at will. It just happened because of the accident. As for Deja Vu... it doesn't fit. Desmond KNEW he had spoken about the future when he shouldn't have.
 
Planet-man said:
Still stupid, IMHO.
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Yes, but WHY? I'm trying to understand what is supposed to be stupid about it. Sure, we can just dance around the TV with our noses pinched shut and say "nyah nyah nyah", but that doesn't form a very compelling point of view, eh? :)
 
I agree that, if Desmond could teleport through time at will, then it would be a stupid idea. However, if he just sporadically jumped to interesting points in future Lost mythology, it could add an interesting dynamic for all of the characters.
 
Goodwill said:
I agree that, if Desmond could teleport through time at will, then it would be a stupid idea. However, if he just sporadically jumped to interesting points in future Lost mythology, it could add an interesting dynamic for all of the characters.
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I'm not even suggesting he could do it at will. I'd say it was more like in the Terminator... a one-way mission that he knew about when he went. Time travel is enormously complex (I'd hope!) so they needed a major energy disturbance to focus on for the jump back.... the destruction of the hatch.
 
Sure, he was a little disoriented because he didn't know WHEN exactly he'd arrive. Thus he spoke about an event that hadn't quite happened yet and when Hurley was confused, he tried to just cover up his faux pas.
 
Goodwill said:
So, you believe he's on a mission, of sorts, from the future to manipulate what is going on now?
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Yes, I believe he's come back for a reason and that he's done it on purpose. As for why... who knows? The first thought that comes to mind is that the woman he loves found a way to reach him on the island, came there to get him, and was killed. He later took the jump back because he hopes to change that eventually. That's COMPLETE speculation though since we don't have a lot to work from yet. Hurley obviously knows something is up. Maybe in tonight's episode we'll have more to go on if Hurley pressures Desmond for answers. I'm thinking we won't be seeing the main band of castaways tonight though so we'll probably have to wait.
 
Woah...

Season 3 is sizing up to be a diamond in the rough... I wonder how ratings are at this point. I imagine they are probably lower than before, but I think that's unfortunate. This show has consistently delivered quality entertainment show after show since the beginning. I don't think I could ever say that enough.

Sawyer is still a great character. I didn't think there would be any direction after the Long Con episode but, as this episode reveals, there's much more to our anti-hero than meets the eye. It's a running trend amongst the characters, I guess. Hopefully, we'll see more development between him and his emerging family.

Holy ****. TWO ISLANDS? If the polar bears are from the HYDRA, how'd they get onto the island that we know and love? Also, how could the Losties and the Tailes NOT notice there was another island? Weird...

Desmond can read the future. It's pretty much confirmed...

Paulo wasn't so bad this episode, either. They are still keeping him on the outs... Which is the best way to be. Sweet.
 
Testament to why I love LOST: They always end up giving you what you want.

Case-in-point: The bunny.:D That would've almost ruined the episode for me...but they pulled a fake and saved it.

Jack seemed a little too eager to save that Coleen woman's life, but I imagine he deperately wanted to see more of what was happening, or maybe get some merit points by pretending to help and secretly act like he couldn't save her when in reality he could have easily.

Either way, I'm glad she's dead!:twisted:

I still don't think Desmond is a time-traveler. It's too convoluted. He probably had a vision of the future the same way Locke, Eko, Hurley, Walt, and Charlie have. At any rate I love seeing more of him and he's got a good dynamic going on with Hurley.

Sawyer should've known better than to just blab his prison break plan. In situations like that, you just assume you're being monitored somehow.

This episode also had 1984 references coming out the wazoo. Anyone else catch them?
 
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Goodwill said:
Holy ****. TWO ISLANDS? If the polar bears are from the HYDRA, how'd they get onto the island that we know and love? Also, how could the Losties and the Tailes NOT notice there was another island? Weird...

Desmond can read the future. It's pretty much confirmed...

Paulo wasn't so bad this episode, either. They are still keeping him on the outs... Which is the best way to be. Sweet.
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Could that village we saw in the first episode of this season FIT on their small second island? It doesn't seem so. Also, how could the castaways have been taken there and NOT known they were travelling over water? Hmmmm. The Others think it's a big deal to get a boat... as if they don't have one after giving theirs to Michael. I'm thinking the Dharma underground system connects the two islands. That'd also explain how the polar bears went from one island to another.

My theory about Desmond gathers strength. We still don't know WHY he's come back though.

I'm really not interested in Paulo and at the rate things are going I never will be. However, hope springs eternal...

Planet-man said:
I still don't think Desmond is a time-traveler. It's too convoluted. He probably had a vision of the future the same way Locke, Eko, Hurley, Walt, and Charlie have. At any rate I love seeing more of him and he's got a good dynamic going on with Hurley.
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Convoluted? We're watching LOST! Of course it's convoluted. :) As for having a vision, I've already shot that one down and explained why. If it makes you feel better about the time travelling, Desmond might not have physically travelled back. His mind may have just come back to inhabit the current body. <shrug> I'm sure it'll be a while before we learn the details about it. I'm more than happy to entertain other theories, but I have yet to see another one that fits the facts. Your comments did make me think of another idea, but I haven't thought this one through yet. If we accept the idea of Locke's that the island is an entity and that it gives visions and has opinions on how things should be, could IT be inhabitting Desmond's body? Maybe Desmond died in the explosion and the island has just re-created a copy of it... naked. Or maybe it's the Monster doing it. It can take on different shapes can't it? We know very little about it so far. It does seem to absorb memories and such from what very little we know. Wouldn't be hard to absorb the memories of a dying Desmond...
 
SAWYER HAS A DAUGHTER!?:shock:

I think the lighting being attracted has something to with the electric magentic in the ground.

I did not see two islands coming. They probaly travel back and forth using the underwater hatch.

Next week's episode looks crazy as hell.

WHAT THE HELL WAS ON THAT SCREEN!? IT SCARED THE ****IN **** OUT OF ME!!!
 
thee great one said:

I think the lighting being attracted has something to with the electric magentic in the ground.
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I thought Desmond bent the tree to make sure the lightning didn't hit Claire or something. I didn't really pay attention to this part because I was explaining to my parents what happened in the episode.
 
Jack of Hearts said:
Could that village we saw in the first episode of this season FIT on their small second island? It doesn't seem so.
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That village was on the main island.

Also, how could the castaways have been taken there and NOT known they were travelling over water?
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Because they were obviously unconcious.

Hmmmm. The Others think it's a big deal to get a boat... as if they don't have one after giving theirs to Michael.
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I seriously doubt that they only have one boat. They probably just didn't want Sayid and co. to come to the other island.

If they didn't have their own boat, how would they have gotten to the other island to take The Elizabeth in the first place?

I'm thinking the Dharma underground system connects the two islands. That'd also explain how the polar bears went from one island to another.
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That would make sense.

Convoluted? We're watching LOST! Of course it's convoluted. :)
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But always in a realistic way. Throwing time-travel in would just seem like too much of a sci-fi cliche to me.

As for having a vision, I've already shot that one down and explained why.
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:? No, you haven't.

When? Where?

If it makes you feel better about the time travelling, Desmond might not have physically travelled back. His mind may have just come back to inhabit the current body.
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But why would the brilliant writers introduce a totally new, complicated and controversial element and go through all that stuff just to have the same end result as a vision, which they've already established can happen on the show?
 
:arrgh: :arrgh:

Are you guys still on this time travel nonsense!?

There is no time travel, no going to his future body, none of that nonsense. There is no hints to it and wouldn't fit the feel of the series.

But he could of had a vision or a blurry memory kind of thing.

You make to much of it.
 
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thee great one said:
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Are you guys still on this time travel nonsense!?

There is no time travel, no going to his future body, no of that nonsense. There is no hints to it and wouldn't fit the feel of the series.

But he could of had a vision or a blurry memory kind of thing.

You make to much of it.
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:rockon::rockon::rockon:
 
Someone mentioned there being two islands around a week ago, and I thought that was stupid, so I'll see what happens...
 
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