Lost *spoilers*

Gideon Stargrave said:
Jacob's predecessor (and surrogate mother) prevented MiB from leaving because she knew that he'd never come back. The episode made it clear that he was her favorite in one way or another, and she hardly wanted her preferred son running off. It wasn't that he couldn't leave, so much as she was just preventing him from doing so. Once he bonded with the darkness in the heart of the island (or whatever happened after Jacob threw him into the stream...), Jacob institutes a new rule that actually physically prevented his leaving. Jacob himself is allowed to leave because there's no such restriction on him.
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maybe you're right, but i think there's more to it than that.
 
Look at the caption:

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captaincanuck65 said:
maybe you're right, but i think there's more to it than that.
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I think there might be more elaboration on what, exactly, the protector does to manipulate the "rules" of the island (especially with Jack occupying center stage). We've basically outright been told that Jacob's rules are what keeps MiB in place, though.
 
Goodwill said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/arts/television/21lost.html

Here's an article that says what I have been trying to, but does it much better.

I agree with the article for the most part, with the exception of the part where it says season 1 was the only good season.
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Sigh. This article's been circulating forums for the past day or so, and I've read a few good rebuttals, but it's ultimately just a pretentious, overwritten misunderstanding of the show. It's blatant that he doesn't know what the **** he's talking about.

And I don't understand how you can agree with the article's mission statement, but refute that season 1 is the only good part of the show, as that's practically his thesis.
 
I've been mainly quiet about this since I've stopped watching the show back when time travel was introduced and thought for sure the Doctor would show up and proclaim that the island was simply one of his rooms on the TARDIS.

Anyways, from what I've read in the past few pages, most of you guys seem pissed that the explanations being given to the some of the shows mysteries are bogus. And from what I can gather, most of you think that if the show was allowed to go on, you would get better explanations. Well guess what? You'd probably get more pissed off. You have been left in the dark and enjoying the fact that you need to ferret out the show's mysteries that now the show is actually giving you the answers, it's lost the mystique that attracted so many of you in the first place, so much so it doesn't seem like the same show.
 
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Pretentious maybe, but to dismiss what valid criticisms he makes is just being ignorant. Essentially he's saying that the final season could have been better constructed because these final hours of the show serves as a crutch. Where the show could have been more thrilling and better crafted throughout the season, the writers relied on their final curtain call to make or break the series as a whole. If consistency ruled the world, I wouldn't have complained about this season being boring or incoherent.
 
Ultimate Houde said:
I've been mainly quiet about this since I've stopped watching the show back when time travel was introduced and thought for sure the Doctor would show up and proclaim that the island was simply one of his rooms on the TARDIS.

Anyways, from what I've read in the past few pages, most of you guys seem pissed that the explanations being given to the some of the shows mysteries are bogus. And from what I can gather, most of you think that if the show was allowed to go on, you would get better explanations. Well guess what? You'd probably get more pissed off. You have been left in the dark and enjoying the fact that you need to ferret out the show's mysteries that now the show is actually giving you the answers, it's lost the mystique that attracted so many of you in the first place, so much so it doesn't seem like the same show.
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Sacred&Profane, Random and I (possibly in addition to others I'm forgetting) have been pretty satisfied with things. People clammering for "answers" are people who misunderstand what LOST is trying to achieve. Throwing your arms up in the air and screaming because of the magical jungle ghost whispers or, I don't know, whatever's going on with Walt is sort of misguided; the explanations are peripheral, because the mystery is just a framing mechanism for a show centered around character interaction/development with a philosophical backdrop. But I think that you're right that most fans are impossible to please.

And, honestly, I'd be totally cool if the last episode revealed the island to be part of the TARDIS. In fact, now that you've brought it up, I'll be disappointed if it doesn't happen.

Goodwill said:
Pretentious maybe, but to dismiss what valid criticisms he makes is just being ignorant. Essentially he's saying that the final season could have been better constructed because these final hours of the show serves as a crutch. Where the show could have been more thrilling and better crafted throughout the season, the writers relied on their final curtain call to make or break the series as a whole. If consistency ruled the world, I wouldn't have complained about this season being boring or incoherent.
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It's not ignorant to dismiss criticisms that are, in fact, not valid at all. This guy is both wrong and a bad writer.

The finale only functions as a crutch for people who are still expecting every single plot thread to be addressed. Which they won't be. All that he succeeds in doing is outlining the complaints of people who haven't bothered to stop and think for five seconds about the sort of story that LOST is telling, in and of itself ignorant of its conjoined narrative. It looks like the finale is just a compliment the new perspective provided by season 6, hopefully with an adequate resolution to the major umbrella arc.

In addition, it seems that he's more concerned with the mythology overtaking the show, which is directly contrary to this incessant whining about "answers". I've read a few good critiques that address some of the issues in the show, but this just isn't one of them. His analysis is confused, and I'd sort of expect a better sense of internal logic in an editorialized piece in the ******* New York Times. He wrote an equally uninformed and fallacious piece on the series 5 premiere of Doctor Who, making it apparent to me that he is just incapable of understanding serialized fiction.
 
Random said:
I have a feeling we'll see Locke ghost before the end, hopefully that brings his story to a proper close
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Jedi Master style, eh?

Gideon Stargrave said:
Even if the writers have said that Locke won't be coming back to life ("Dead is dead" after all), you need to keep in mind that they are all dirty liars. They went to so much trouble with Locke's burial that I sort of wonder if anyone's going to dig him back up.
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I'm usually all for keeping a dead character dead--being a long term comic reader, a certain amount of backlash against unnecessary resurrections is understandable. But in this case, it just doesn't sit right with me.

Ultimate Houde said:
I've been mainly quiet about this since I've stopped watching the show back when time travel was introduced and thought for sure the Doctor would show up and proclaim that the island was simply one of his rooms on the TARDIS.

Anyways, from what I've read in the past few pages, most of you guys seem pissed that the explanations being given to the some of the shows mysteries are bogus. And from what I can gather, most of you think that if the show was allowed to go on, you would get better explanations. Well guess what? You'd probably get more pissed off. You have been left in the dark and enjoying the fact that you need to ferret out the show's mysteries that now the show is actually giving you the answers, it's lost the mystique that attracted so many of you in the first place, so much so it doesn't seem like the same show.
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So what you're saying is: "I told you so."

...Right?
 
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I'm not after answers, I'm after quality. Compared to past seasons, this season has been poorly conceived due to its tip toeing around... I would not have cared if they didn't answer anything this season if they were telling a story relevant to what we have all seen in the past. The on-island stuff consists of characters being spooked by ghosts and scratching their heads at what they should do... And we still have no idea where they have been going with the flash-sideways. They are two different shows, each taking up the others time and importance. With the ending of season 5 being so hugely monumental in my mind, what was given to us in Season 6 is piss poor and therefore worthy of any criticisms because for those of us who loved the show then, now we have a caricature of it that we have to deal with. The writers could have done better without answers.
 
Getting ready for the finale

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Also due to my brother's graduating I will not be able to post about the finale until late monday, which I hope doesn't ruin the conversation on here for me.
 
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Television Without Pity has a good list of the best Lost episodes (among other Lost stuff). I think most of my favourites are in that list.

The finale is the biggest geek thing I have ever been involved in. I have been watching this show since the beginning and now it's going to end. This is bigger than Harry Potter 7, The Return of the King and Ultimates 2 #13/Y the Last Man #60 all in one for me!

24mrq5z
 
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ProjectX2 said:
Television Without Pity has a good list of the best Lost episodes (among other Lost stuff). I think most of my favourites are in that list.

The finale is the biggest geek thing I have ever been involved in. I have been watching this show since the beginning and now it's going to end. This is bigger than Harry Potter 7, The Return of the King and Ultimates 2 #13/Y the Last Man #60 all in one for me!

24mrq5z
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DUDE. That is wicked.
 
I was happy with it. It's not perfect but I am happy with it. And that's all that matters.

The church sequence reminded me of the Six Feet Under finale. And that was a perfect final shot.

Thank you, LOST.
 
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