How many members here are Christians?
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No I meant with the official definition of religion. Atheist is not a structured religion its a type of belief. It lacks what is needed to call something a religion... or something like that.
Ultimate Houde
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Actually, we do believe in something, nothing, it's the religion of nothing.
That's how I see it.
Why argue the sematics?
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Didn't **** any of those *****es
Well if you read my post right I said it was a type of belief, but to be officially an religion it has to be organized or something like that. I learned it in a religion course but its summer now so teh brainz aint workin zo wellz
Ultimate Houde
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Willverine
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A friend of mine made a t-shirt with affordable t-shirt supplies you can buy at any art shop (Michael's, that sort of place) which says:
"God made me an atheist, who are you to question his judgement".
Great shirt. I like, even though I don't identify as an atheist. I'm a firm believer in believing in whatever you want to believe in as long as you don't infringe on other peoples' beliefs. I'm not a supporter of organized religion even though I was raised Catholic and even served as an altar boy (and no my priest didn't molest me). Through life I've learned that there are a lot of people in this world and most of them don't agree on the concept of god even if they believe in god, so I don't subscribe to any established version of god.
Respect is key, as everyone has their own version of god. God is god, right? Or is it? I don't know... neither do you... neither does anyone else... so don't judge. You might just be wrong.
"God made me an atheist, who are you to question his judgement".
Great shirt. I like, even though I don't identify as an atheist. I'm a firm believer in believing in whatever you want to believe in as long as you don't infringe on other peoples' beliefs. I'm not a supporter of organized religion even though I was raised Catholic and even served as an altar boy (and no my priest didn't molest me). Through life I've learned that there are a lot of people in this world and most of them don't agree on the concept of god even if they believe in god, so I don't subscribe to any established version of god.
Respect is key, as everyone has their own version of god. God is god, right? Or is it? I don't know... neither do you... neither does anyone else... so don't judge. You might just be wrong.
Ultimate Houde
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ourchair
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I've always believed that atheism does not mean "There is no God and you believe in nothing." I've always believed atheism meant "If there IS a God --- and I ain't saying there is one --- I don't worship him."
That is to say it is not about repudiating the existence of everybody else's God, so much as it is refusing to make A God the foundation of your spiritual beliefs.
Bass
Nexus of the World
Heh, I've seen that slogan online too.
According to my friends who are born-again atheists, it's categorically, "There is no afterlife and no God."
ourchair
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I'm sure there is a wide spectrum of theological values among atheists. Orthodox Atheists, Protestant Atheists, Reformation Atheists, etc.
I mean the core concept of atheism is just "no God" and how you arrive at that conclusion can vary wildly.
McCheese
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Atheists believe there is no God.
Agnostics recognize the possiblity of a God, but don't know if there is one for sure and don't worship him.
Agnostics recognize the possiblity of a God, but don't know if there is one for sure and don't worship him.
Bass
Nexus of the World
Bass-Award Pending.
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Master of TOG-fu.
ourchair
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Damn straight.
I deserve a Bass Award for everytime I bring up Where My Heart Will Take Me.
I categorize a bit differently, from a language perspective.McCheese said:
Agnostics = A + GNOSTIC
Therefore = Do not believe it is possible to know God, and whether there is one or not is actually beside the point. They don't 'don't know there is one' so much as they don't think it is certain to know him/her/it.
Atheist = A + THEIST
Therefore = There is no God, and even if there was one, wouldn't really want to worship it anyway since they prefer to build their moral and spiritual foundation on secular/humanist philosophies. God's existence is beside the point.
Planet-man
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All I can say is that the people I know who are atheist or agnostic don't fit either of those descriptions.
All the atheists I know believe that there is no God, and not the other stuff you said at all. The Agnostics simply don't see enough proof either way, but don't refuse to believe that it would be impossible for proof to exist or anything.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I know one atheist who thinks there isn't a God, but is open to the concept of and hopes their IS an afterlife. Go figure.
All the atheists I know believe that there is no God, and not the other stuff you said at all. The Agnostics simply don't see enough proof either way, but don't refuse to believe that it would be impossible for proof to exist or anything.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I know one atheist who thinks there isn't a God, but is open to the concept of and hopes their IS an afterlife. Go figure.
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i'm atheist. When it comes to the afterlife i believe once your dead your dead that's it. No heaven/hell , No reincarnation No coming back to suck young girls in to the tv. Just dead.
But i have no problem with people who do believe as long as they don't force it upon me (no one here does that but you know the type I mean)
But i have no problem with people who do believe as long as they don't force it upon me (no one here does that but you know the type I mean)
Gemini
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that's exactly my beleif
Hibiki
Really is pretentious, no matter what she says. Do
I loves me the big man above! I do feel mainstream christans are wrong though. As much as I think you'd be wrong to think there isn't a God (i know mine exists and that's my belief) I'm not gonna make you feel bad or pressure you to think the way i do. If you really wanted to learn you'd ask and whatever I couldn't answer, I'd direct you to someone else. I also feel no matter what you believe, you should still read books like the bible, torah, quran just to know the differences and be schooled on said religions for your betterment. I;d be a hypocrite in a sense as i've only read some of the bible and none of the others but I'll cross that bridge eventually.
Iceshadow
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I'm mostly in agreement with Hibiki.
